Anyone else surprised by Sony's focus on Japanese partnerships? Whats next?
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DIdn't Adam Boys himself say Persona 5 was coming to PS4 this year multiple times? I'm pretty sure they have help and a partnership. The game was supposed to come out last year, there's literally no reason to delay the game for so long unless you commissioned to work on another version near the end of development right?
Psycho_Mantis
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Yes there has likely been talks (just like with DQH). I'm just saying said talks have not been publicly announced. I included DQH in the OP because that partnership seems more tangible in the public eye.
Read my post earlier in the thread.
IdreamofHIME
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Kaz got that national pride.
Happy more than surprised, they're doing well worlwide and this is reassuring for the devs who also jumped late on PS3 for the same reason. I believe that there's a good market for japanese games in the West, they just need support and marketing and if Sony or anyone else can give a hand, please do it :|
Japan's talent on mobile is just wasted.. yes, they make more money there but I think they deserve the worldwide audience no less than they did back in 2000.
I wish this was true. It's doing well but not that much.
Let's see the sales for Yakuza 5 first, if they're good there could be a tiny chance for Zero, while for Ishin.. nope.
Japan's talent on mobile is just wasted.. yes, they make more money there but I think they deserve the worldwide audience no less than they did back in 2000.
I wish this was true. It's doing well but not that much.
Let's see the sales for Yakuza 5 first, if they're good there could be a tiny chance for Zero, while for Ishin.. nope.
Acquiescence
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Hmmm, they gotta sort out the Shenmue mess first and give us a HD Collection, so probably not.
Maybe cancelled because it's actually a Hideo Kojima game. LOL
Fbh
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Well I love japanese games but:
- Still no word on Ps4 Yakuza's comming to the west
- Star Ocean isn't confirmed (as far as I know) for a western release
- Does deep down still exists?
- Dragon Dogma online isn't confirmed for the west
- Also, did Sony partner up with Capcom for Dragon Dogma online? Because so far the game is japan only and for that market it makes sense to just ignore the X1/X360
- With the whole thing about Kojima, Silent Hills is either dead or has just lost any reason to be excited about it
Bloodborne and Persona 5 are great deals though
Still, It's allways great to see Sony doing stuff with japanese devs and I hope they continue to do so. I hope they mangage to do something with Platinums in a few years once they are done with Scalebound
- Still no word on Ps4 Yakuza's comming to the west
- Star Ocean isn't confirmed (as far as I know) for a western release
- Does deep down still exists?
- Dragon Dogma online isn't confirmed for the west
- Also, did Sony partner up with Capcom for Dragon Dogma online? Because so far the game is japan only and for that market it makes sense to just ignore the X1/X360
- With the whole thing about Kojima, Silent Hills is either dead or has just lost any reason to be excited about it
Bloodborne and Persona 5 are great deals though
Still, It's allways great to see Sony doing stuff with japanese devs and I hope they continue to do so. I hope they mangage to do something with Platinums in a few years once they are done with Scalebound
Psycho_Mantis
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Pankratous
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If Sony have a brain cell between the executives they should have hired the entire Kojima team (Kojipro or whatever it's called), hired anyone else necessary and diverted a few million dollars to their next project.
However I actually think Microsoft will snap up Kojima for something.
I don't mean the quality or quantity so much as the effort that's being put in to make these things happen.
Now if only we could get the Vita PSO game to be localized. :/
thewhitehawk
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I'm not really surprised as it's mutually beneficial and japanese devs don't have many other companies to turn to. They basically have 3 options: 3DS, mobile or PS4/PS3.
illmatic22
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Good
Dreadx_Jecht
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Where was it confirmed that Sony was helping with star ocean?
ALLseeingEYE
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Yup,
I think this is smart. Invest in the Japanese gaming community, and try to kickstart PS4 development in Japan. They need to make the PS4 a viable platform over there so we can see top tier Japanese devs really give new-gen development a good shot.
Western devs already seem to have a solid foundation for new-gen AAA, seeing that both the PS4 and X1 are successful in western markets.
Kagari, who has ties with S-E, confirmed it.
funkystudent
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Seems like every Japanese developer these days needs a crutch to help them. So 1th party funding, co developing with someone else and so on.
Its open season for the 1th parties to sign these struggling teams. Sony and Nintendo have been doing it a bunch.
Its open season for the 1th parties to sign these struggling teams. Sony and Nintendo have been doing it a bunch.
That1BlackGuy
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It's a smart move on Sony's part, even if they're already considered the de facto Japanese home console platform strengthening those ties only puts them in a more advantageous position in terms of courting Japanese devs into their ecosystem. As for what's next, a Phantasy Star Nova localization wouldn't hurt, even if it was digital only.
Yeah seems more like an attempt to combat the growing interest in mobile gaming like the big two had to do here in the states last gen.
JordanN
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Not a surprise. If anything, I'm a bit mad they didn't do it sooner.
Sony has one advantage the other 2 players don't have and that's their relation with Japanese third parties. I would have always tried to leverage this even despite what has happen to the Japanese console scene.
Sony has one advantage the other 2 players don't have and that's their relation with Japanese third parties. I would have always tried to leverage this even despite what has happen to the Japanese console scene.
Pokken, Scalebound, Project Treasure... everyone does it in some form.
Dreadx_Jecht
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so I guess it's not one of those situations where it becomes a multiplat during localization?
I think they would have to, what with rising development costs. It's not just Sony too, Microsoft and Nintendo are getting some good partnerships this gen. Pretty good all around. As for what's next? I'd love to see classic revivals, but this generation is in dire need of killer new IP's ala Bloodborne. Dragon Quest Heroes, Star Ocean 5, and Dissidia are fine, but having that talent working on new groundbreaking things, especially since these new consoles are in year two, is super important.
KZObsessed
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Even if they aren't big sellers anymore I think Sony realises that these games can set them apart from Xbox at a time when nearly everything is multiplatform. They're also probably quite easy to secure due to japanese install base and therefore cheaper than securing western exclusives.
Astral Dog
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Its simple, Sony has the advantage in terms of sales and appeal, good to see they aren't ignoring Japanese developers. as they seemed not that interested at first.
hopefully a lot more things come in the future.
hopefully a lot more things come in the future.
Newtype-001
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I also hope its a realisation that they don't need to invest AAA budget amounts into every game for them to turn over profits.
Newtype-001
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I always wondered why the big console manufacturers dont specifically have studios/groups who focus on porting games to the companies system.
The only part of Konami worth owning has been fired.
This.
I'd be very, very curious what the budget on Bloodborne was. My bet is that it's profitable at many fewer copies sold than something like Tomb Raider 2013 or DmC.
Well yeah, TR2013 had to shell out a lot of dough for that TressFX engine.
Muchi Muchi Pink
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Lol many of the listed stuff is not something I would call a partnership.
Considering the terms of the take-over, SCE wouldn't have profited from this. Microsoft buying Minecraft is mostly a way for them to turn a bit of their money into more money, not some Xbox support move.
Nightengale
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Yeah, the deal was crazy expensive. Sure, the brand was worth it, but in terms of ROI, it'll take a long time and more investments to even break even.
SolicitorPirate
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Truer words have never been spoken.
On topic, good move by Sony. Given how the Xbox is basically the same machine but with slightly less shiny graphics, a strong Japanese is a solid point of differentiation for the PS4.
Triggerhappytel
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It's not that easy and it's certainly not that cheap to just buy up an established dev team and give them masses of resources. Since Kaz took over as CEO Sony have been carving inefficient chunks out of their studios, not re-investing and growing the teams by fifties or hundreds in one go.
Plus, the actual staff at KojiPro have not been let go; the studio has just been renamed.