It means that the partnership between Sony and From is going to remain...
Bloodborne 2 is pretty much a given at this point.
We don't know with FROM specifically but Sony and Kadokawa have a good partnership ongoing.
What do you Think Bloodborne's Sales mean for Sony/From/Souls going Forward
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We don't know with FROM specifically but Sony and Kadokawa have a good partnership ongoing.
That's great and I respect your opinion. But the fact of the matter is that the game still did well, many also love it and the Souls fanbase is firmly in place awaiting Dark Souls 3. Which is inevitable and you can bank on it.
I'm pretty sure Dark Souls 3 will happen. I just think it's utterly pointless and won't be as good as what they can do with a fresh new start. Granted, if Dark Souls 3 is a similar style but a completely new universe I will be on board with that (unless Miyazaki isn't directing)
Taking complete financial burden off their parent company and guaranteeing to get paid regardless of how a game does, having marketing taken care of for you is a big incentive for any company.
It's my dream, specially seeing how bloody you can get in BB, the sprays of blood all over the place, just demands a ninja assassin game to return.
Newtype-001
Member
Huh.
I thought you were quoting me.
the original post said he didn't want ds3 where then you replied that it would be saying to hell with all the fans of the sereis on other platforms. Eot then expanded saying he dislikes endless sequels.
His comment didnt have anything really to do with going exclusive or most of the souls fans on ps4 since he says he is a pc gamer... unless i missed a comment.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Bloodborne DLC followed by Demons Souls 2 please
Bloodborne 2 with some Bloodborne DLC to expand a bit more of what's current and sate the audience while they work on the sequel.
Demon Souls/Dark Souls remaster bundle.
If FROM does both, I may never need another video game release ever again. Except for anything Kojima related.
... Kojima should sign on and do a colab with Miyazaki for... -anything-.
Demon Souls/Dark Souls remaster bundle.
If FROM does both, I may never need another video game release ever again. Except for anything Kojima related.
... Kojima should sign on and do a colab with Miyazaki for... -anything-.
indigo-cyclops
Member
What if they happen to like the collaboration, which it is.
We'll see what sort of support they get from their new owner.
Suit yourself. I loved what they did with Dark Souls 2 in Miyazaki's absence, especially the DLC areas. But I of course love his work as well and will also enjoy whatever he does next.
Agreed, let him do what he wants, don't need a direct sequel, spiritual successor works fine and gives more freedom to be creative in the long run. If he wants to do a direct sequel sure, but I doubt it considering demon souls > dark souls 1 > bloodborne, all spiritual successors.
dehalcyone
Banned
Probably should wait and see what they decide to do with the property before getting too excited. Remember DS -> Dark Souls- > Dark Souls II. This may be Bloodborne's pinnacle, sadly.
Yes but when you have a sure-fire recipe for success like the souls formula, why would you want to work for someone else if you can fund it yourself and reap all the rewards?
2spooky4me
Member
Actually, I don't think Bloodborne's success necessarily means we'll get Bloodborne 2. Remember, Sony approached From to create a spiritual successor to Demon's Souls but not a direct sequel.
What is clear is that Sony will continue to make offers to From/Miyazaki to create exclusive games.
What is clear is that Sony will continue to make offers to From/Miyazaki to create exclusive games.
ecosse_011172
Junior Member
I'd like another Souls type game but new, i.e. what BB was to the Souls games.
No direct sequel required.
I'd love it to be out on the PC so I can get 60fps as well.
No direct sequel required.
I'd love it to be out on the PC so I can get 60fps as well.
benicillin
Banned
DS, Dark Souls and Bloodborne were all directed by the same guy, though. Dark Souls II wasn't. Sounds to me like Miyazaki is on a roll and the guys who did Dark Souls II needed time to find their rhythm (if all of Dark Souls II was as good as the DLC, the game would have been amazing.)
I have a hard time ranking the souls games. I personally like Bloodborne the most because I love the art style, world design, atmosphere, lore, and more offensive minded gameplay, but Demons and DS1 are also amazing to and have tons of things I love about them.
I'd go BB = Demons = (maybe >) Dark 1 > Dark 2
Sorry, I got my wires crossed. But the statement I was referring to was originally made by Sephzilla:
But I still stand by what I said to EOT as well. Abandoning the Souls series would piss off a huge portion of the fanbase, regardless of some new IP. But thankfully, that is most likely not going to be the case just yet.
FairXchange
Member
Dark souls 2 is a lovely game, so here's hoping that's the progression.
Newtype-001
Member
No thats not what happened.
Sony went to from (specifically asked for Miyazaki) and talked to them about the prospects of making a game on a next gen system. It wasnt about making a demons sousl spiritual successor or sequel.
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=840059
Miyazaki:
This project actually started out with the proposal to make something new on new hardware.
4Gamer:
So the whole thing never even started as Demons Souls 2. That definitely sounds like SCE, even if its a little crazy.
Miyazaki:
Yes. Those of us actually working on the game never even considered making it Demons Souls 2. Even looking at it objectively, it does seem like a very SCE-like decision.
Well I'll never understand the mentality of wanting a 3rd party studio to make exclusives, personally. I mean, I get it from FROM's perspective since they are getting a big check from it, but from a gamer's perspective, unless you're some console warrior who enjoys list wars, you'd think this wouldn't be desirable.
And using Metacritic? C'mon now.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
it means that we're going to get more bloodbourne/soulds games. Which isn't what I want.
2spooky4me
Member
Ah I see, thank you for the correction. For some reason I thought Yoshida stated at one time that he wanted a game in the vein of Demon's Souls for the PS4, but a new IP.
qa_engineer
Member
It means Bloodborne 2: Even More Blood is in the works.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Do you have any evidence of that? It's my understanding that the trademark in Japan, America and the EU is registered solely under Bandai Namco.
Yeah, Shu admitted his mistake very early on and has made amendments with Bloodborne. I'm sure there will be more collaborations, even if it's not directly Bloodborne 2.
Uh, is there any reason to think they haven't just done exactly that? Seems to me that he had carte blanche to make whatever he wanted and made a game stylistically pretty different to its predecessors, even if overall it's built from the same foundations.
SniperHunter
Banned
DLC
Demon Souls Remaster
BloodBorne 2
Demon Souls Remaster
BloodBorne 2
AcademicSaucer
Member
They are niche games, We cna only hope this sales mean that they will keep making them
Some one has the same thoughts as I do...
gameoverbro
Member
I welcome any souls games from here on out. There's nothing out there like them and I'm hooked.
hobblygobbly
Member
I agree. I think Miyazaki likes to stick with familiarity (like the combat/general gameplay) but also likes to deal with different new aesthetics/themes. Technically different IPs but it's still got the same familiarity/general gameplay but different themes that make them stick out as different IPs.
I'd truly like to see Miyazaki do something totally different, something out of his comfort zone. Create something that is not comparable to any other work but still retain a challenge. I either dreamt it up but a long while ago I read that Miyazaki would like to do something light-hearted, that could be pretty interesting.
From Software overall has talented teams/individuals, I'd also like to see them be more multiplat orientated. It has done them good.
This is what I want and expect, in addition to Dark Souls III as the multiplat offering.
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
This is still a thing right?
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=939307
So they are already working on a dungeon RPG and a SRPG for Playstation platforms. Don't know of they exclusive, but it seems like it.
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=939307
So they are already working on a dungeon RPG and a SRPG for Playstation platforms. Don't know of they exclusive, but it seems like it.
The door only leads to the bridge where you fight the Cleric Beast. Seriously, where else would it lead?
sublimit
Banned
Nope the games were published by From Software in Japan.It's the same as with Armored Core.The IP always belonged to FS but they collaborated with other publishers outside Japan like Ubisoft for example and Namco more recently.
duck_sauce
Member
Give this man a crown
StrongBlackVine
Banned
So 3rd party exclusives shouldn't exist at all? Why is that? One console would have almost no exclusive games if that were the case.
I don't think games that were previously multiplatform should go exclusive unless it is Bayonnetta situation, but I see nothing wrong with paying a company to make a new IP.
You can take larger risks in terms of doing unique things if someone else is paying for the game. If they pan out they can then refine those things in their multiplat games, if they don't they didn't loose anything. You could argue that changes come to their fully owned games, but i would say they come slower. The faster pace of BB, the ability to regain some lost health, firearms to stagger, removal of backstabs, a whole different setting. These were gambles (that payed off to some that didn't for others). To have tried to make Dark Souls 3 without BB in between to try these features could have alienated fans of the DS series and in turn hurt them. Being able to take risks with someone elses money is always better than your own to find out what works and what does not work.
Majmun
Member
Souls series started exclusively on Playstation...
But Sony was too dumb to secure it.
Bloodborne worked out really well though. For Sony and From.
eot
Banned
I would love that.
Throw in the GitS soundtrack too
Again, I'm not talking about abandoning anyone. I didn't say make Bloodborne 2 either. Not making direct sequels isn't abandoning your fans. I think making new stuff is actually more respectful of your fans than doing sequels.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
If anything it means that there will likely be sony specific souls like releases from from software, and Dark souls will probably continue as the main multiplatform series.
dehalcyone
Banned
No.
It is my favorite souls game, but for reasons that generally piss hardcore fans off, ha.
I doubt they lack a large audience appeal when people could refused to believe the game was exclusive, had a crazy PC petition, and became some how more accessible yet still difficult.
People keep wanting to downplay how popular and well received these games are by calling it niche or not "tent pole" because it isn't some half assed fps or "AAA" game made with hype in mind first. Considering how accessible these games are a mill in a week is really damn good and the stats on trophies are showing alot of people are doing good enough to not insta rage and quit. Funny looking at the predictions on people made on the sales of this game some people doubted it would break 300,000 by npd and here we are.
I'm not saying they shouldn't exist. Obviously there are business reasons that justify their existence. But I don't know why we, the gamers, would actually desire them.
I hope that Bloodborne is a one off, in therme of gameplay and setting.
It might sound boring, but I want something completly new, or go back to the medieval setting.
edit:Like a not Dark souls 3. Because trying to do a continuation of the story of a previous game, didn't really work out last time
It might sound boring, but I want something completly new, or go back to the medieval setting.
edit:Like a not Dark souls 3. Because trying to do a continuation of the story of a previous game, didn't really work out last time
graffix13
Member
Oh hell yes.
They can utilize a console more fully? If they were not payed for by the platform holders they would not exist? Variety is the spice of life?
As a gamer we are getting games that otherwise we wouldn't. They aren't taking games from the masses. Would Bayo 2 be a thing if it were not exclusive? No. Would Phantom Dust? Hell no, Would BloodBorne? Again, no.
As a gamer we should be happy 3rd party exclusives do happen because we get games, and a real gamer would just go play those games that interest them on whatever platform they come out.
Edit: before someone comes in and says I am for moneyhatting there is a big difference between paying for a new game IP or something that was never going to happen (bayo 2) vs paying for a game that was being developed for all systems to only come out for 1.
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