daemissary
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Just had a 12 win arena run and the prizes were golden Battle Rage and golden Commanding Shout. I guess Blizzard is telling me to play Patron warrior...
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Depending on which rank you're at people really are legit awful with the deck
Victory Red
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Just drafted am Arena that was going like shit. Last pick: Kel'Thuzad
Patron Warrior is very difficult to play, it's not a surprise. Those favored matchups assume both players know each others' decks inside out.
I think Patron Warrior is similar to Oil Rogue, which was never really popular even when it was a top tier deck. They're both way more complex than what most Hearthstone players are used to.
Similarly, I win a lot of my Patron Warrior games because people underestimate what Frothing Berserkers can do. I dropped two Frothings against a Mage as a desperation play, because I was totally out of gas. Instead of nuking one (I know they had a Fireball from Antonidas), they played Mirror Image and went face and tried to put me into lethal range. Well, next turn I double Whirlwinded along with Commander and Cruel Taskmaster to break through the Mirror Images for 31 damage to the face. Those Mirror Images actually helped give me lethal. I lost that game, straight up, and it was a stupid play that let me win. That's what happens when you have no idea how a deck works on a basic level.
I think Patron Warrior is similar to Oil Rogue, which was never really popular even when it was a top tier deck. They're both way more complex than what most Hearthstone players are used to.
Similarly, I win a lot of my Patron Warrior games because people underestimate what Frothing Berserkers can do. I dropped two Frothings against a Mage as a desperation play, because I was totally out of gas. Instead of nuking one (I know they had a Fireball from Antonidas), they played Mirror Image and went face and tried to put me into lethal range. Well, next turn I double Whirlwinded along with Commander and Cruel Taskmaster to break through the Mirror Images for 31 damage to the face. Those Mirror Images actually helped give me lethal. I lost that game, straight up, and it was a stupid play that let me win. That's what happens when you have no idea how a deck works on a basic level.
I don't think it is "bad" to net deck, but you have to tone down your expectations.
As was said before I think the real issue is that finding a good deck, especially copying the "I hit legend #1 with XYZ deck today" leads to frustration because that same exact deck is not going to get the same 60 - 70% winrate in the hands of someone who just started playing it.
Many players will honestly play the same deck for weeks and sometimes play one class almost exclusively.
Went from 19 to 10 with Zoo, dropped to 13 and switched to handlock, back up to 11 at the moment.
Seems like if you pressure Patron enough, they drop their frothings or warsongs early, and if you remove them it's GG. Both my zoolocks and handlocks run double owl, too, so frothings aren't that scary unless they drop them as part of their combo.
Yes, that is the most common mistake. Inexperienced Patron players think they need to keep the board at all costs and drop their vital combo pieces without effect. There are situations where playing a non-charged Frothing is the correct play, but they're very specific and just dropping a Warsong for the body is a surefire way to lose you the game right there - especially against Zoo.
I had control of the board with a 4-4 taunted by a spare part card and a 4-3 against a Priest with empty board. I'm top decking, but ahead way ahead on life. I draw raging worgen, attack face and make a 1-1. His next play is shadow madness the worgen, play mad bomber who hits the 4-4 taunt once and nothing else eventful, power word shield the worgen, kill the now 4-3 taunt and trade off the other 4-3 with the worgen.
Was it a straight up mistake to play the worgen or RNG ridiculousness?
Was it a straight up mistake to play the worgen or RNG ridiculousness?
It's probably still bad.
I also didn't get any packs yet.
BlackBuzzard
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Free packs lets go!
Yup KT does absolutely nothing for you when behind in arena. Incidentally just the other day I went 4-3 with a really unlucky Warlock draft that had him, and Loatheb would have been the much better choice. Should have listened to my gut feeling.
Gully State
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I agree. There are other conditions that led to that unique deck hitting 60-70%. I typically go with decks from the meta snapshot. Seems like those are more proven over a large sample size.
I think best thing for the poster on the losing streak to do would be to look at his decision making rather than to change decks. If you find yourself in a prolonged losing streak, the best thing to do is to stop playing and examine your decision making process. You need to figure out where you're going wrong first (wrong deck? or bad play?). Otherwise you can't fix it.
They deleted the news update...
Gully State
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I'm guessing mistake to play the worgen (though if I were in your position, I'd probably have done the same thing). How many cards were in his hand?
Maybe it will roll out after midnight when quests refresh... I hope..
Could use 2 packs!
Sometimes I buy packs just for the pleasure of opening them. I will be really upset if this little gift doesn't materialise!
Nah there's no way they retract it, reddit would go fucking mental
If you don't have any GvG cards, I think it would be better to buy mostly GvG so you can get the important commons and rares.
Eeehhhh since you can only get GvG packs from winning Arena I might disagree, if he's doing Arena he should get Normal Packs first.
Victory Red
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Fucking Foe Reaper in Arena. WTF. I still won but come on.
Maybe I'll reverse my thinking and buy more GvG cards.
I've only down arena a few times. I really suck at it. Lol highest is 4 wins.
Hell I have played for months and my highest is only 6 hahaha
BlackBuzzard
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First legendary in months(saving up for BRM) and look who it is.
Fuck you Millhouse fuck you so hard.
Fuck you Millhouse fuck you so hard.
Would craftTrump called someone whose username is "Grimpatron" "grimp-a-tron" and that almost works as a card:
MetroidPrimeRib
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Starting to believe whoever said unstable portal can just instantly win you the game sometimes was right, because I did from this. It's tempo mage, too.
privitsan02
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I've been away from Hearthstone since the GVG expansion and been catching up on some Trump videos to see what the fuss is withe Black Rock.
Is it worth getting the expansion? Naxx was a big deal and let me play at an entirely different level compared to pre-Naxx. I haven't really seen any big shift in the meta though.
Best wishes.
Is it worth getting the expansion? Naxx was a big deal and let me play at an entirely different level compared to pre-Naxx. I haven't really seen any big shift in the meta though.
Best wishes.
Sometimes I play my friends and draw no weapons and draw engines which I've seen happen to my opponents. That's an auto loss without any way around it if it happens. But I've seen people leave weak boards and do stupid sequencing all the time.
Do you like zoo, tempo mage, or combo decks? Then it's worth it. Otherwise the dragon's aren't that great so far, certainly not essential.
bodine1231
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I have all the regular usable cards. I could use my dust to craft the ones I dont have but most of what I don't have are the bad legends and epics. I'd rather use the dust for gold cards that look badass. I could save the dust for the next expansion,but I'll probably buy a shitload of packs and get what I want anyway.
If money or gold is tight, I'd say get only the first wing. Nearly all of the good cards are in there.
bodine1231
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HOLY SHIT! I was about to use whats left of my dust to craft either a golden Antonidas or golden Grommash and look what I get from my arena pack...
I seriously screamed like a little girl
I seriously screamed like a little girl
Gully State
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I think I blew all my arena luck last game. Play like shit. Top deck flame strike. Drop two 3/3, 3/3's. Top deck fireball and finish...
I think I'm gonna pass playing tonight. There's karmic retribution to be had but not tonight...
I think I'm gonna pass playing tonight. There's karmic retribution to be had but not tonight...
privitsan02
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I used to like Zoo back in the day but I much prefer the usual Muster Paladin. Although as I'm sorta coming back, I am enjoying playing Mech Mage and mid-range Hunter again.
I'm checking some of the cards and I definitely don't see much of the hype...
Yeah I've noticed. I might just get the first wing if anything. Thanks guys.
Best wishes
Kotetsu534
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Pretty crazy Arena deck I just drafted, just a fraction short of an average of 70 card value on HearthArena. Little bit short in the 3-drop department but the Fireballs and Water Eles should let me pull things back. If this doesn't go 8 wins, at the very least, I'll be disappointed. Just took a plodding Pally draft to 7.
Servbot #42
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I went down to rank 15 today by playing demon zoo and face hunter, i was pretty pissed and then i had the awesome idea to play midrange paladin. I climbed my way back to rank 11 just now, it's weird tough i'm having way better luck with mid range paladin with zero zombie chows in the deck, i used to run two.
Pure unfiltered rage?
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