Raise the flame shield: Your "controversial" gaming opinion.

Tunahead

Member
Re: The Curse of Monkey Island:

Murray is an undead skull that has the ability to talk and not do anything else. He can't even move on his own, really. Paradoxically, he thinks he's a fearsome scourge of the Caribbean. And I can't fucking stand him.

There are many jokes I don't like in CoMI. And then those jokes end and there's another one and sometimes I'll like that one and everything will be swell again. Just fire jokes at the player as fast as you like, some are bound to land! That's a good style of comedy. The Marx Brothers did that. And if you say the Marx Brothers are bad, I will fight you.

But Murray is a joke that doesn't end. He resides at the very apex of all that is absolute patience-testing wank. He's like a living avatar of the self-indulgence of a comedy writer who has grown enamored with his own jokes. After approximately half a dozen lines, Murray has fully exhausted his comedy repertoire. And then he continues. And then he leaves. And then you meet him again, and again, and again, because he's a recurring character. Murray is a one-liner being shouted at you over and over. Even his name lingers like it's fucking psoriasis. Just another ~*totally random*~ aspect of the same terrible joke. Murray isn't a fearsome and imposing name! How zany!

Fuck Murray. Fuck him all day long.
 

Wensih

Member
I think I actually have a rather controversial opinion this time:

I don't think the level design in DOOM is all that great. I played Ultimate DOOM this year, and while it's larger and more freeing than modern FPS, it's also labyrinthian in nature and once I cleared out enemies I was usually just wandering around for 15 minutes trying to find a key card to move on. I'd much rather have a tighter experience which is why when this picture pops up, I rejoice at the picture on the right.

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Doc_Drop

Member
Personally, whenever I see anyone say any of the following or something similar I feel they should reflect on their thought process a little and look outside their own opinions;

> less story = better games
> If you want story go and watch a film/movie
> People who play games for story should not be gaming/don't really like gaming

I think that it's a narrow and ignorant view and it comes from people who in my opinion don't really understand video games as a medium as much as they like to think

I think there is space for all types of games
 

Hektor

Member
The TLOU is absolutely generic.
Skyrim is an awful game.
FFXII is the best game in the (mainline)-franchise.
Zelda is overall a very mediocre franchise.

That's what happens in a society where most people think the world owes them something.

It's the same thing with people that complain about the games you get given for FREE on ps plus. If you don't like the games you're given then maybe just buy some.

PSPlus is NOT free, its not a genereous gift by sony, its a SERVICE you PAY MONEY for. Its beyond me how people arent able to understand that,
 

OCD Guy

Member
Except we don't get them for free. They come as part of a subscription we pay for.

They're pitched as "free". Nowadays ps plus is aimed more at online access with a few benefits, one of those benefits being acess to "free" games.

On the PS3 where online was free, a ps plus subscription was simply a subscription to get access to games, and the games were better, they were more full retail games as opposed to indies.

Now though ps plus has evolved and there's less emphasis on the games in my opinion.
 

OCD Guy

Member
PSPlus is NOT free, its not a genereous gift by sony, its a SERVICE you PAY MONEY for. Its beyond me how people arent able to understand that,

The service being online access mainly.

When ps plus was first introduced it was pitched as getting "free" games, or rather access to games while you had a subscription. The games were decent quality, and they had to be to be fair otherwise there'd be no incentive to sign up, as playing online was free.

Now though the service has changed, people subscribe to plus to play online, with the instant game collection as a secondary "extra".

The main focus point of plus nowadays is to play online, when it was first introduced it was only about the games (as playing online was free)
 

Wensih

Member
Personally, whenever I see anyone say any of the following or something similar I feel they should reflect on their thought process a little and look outside their own opinions;

> less story = better games
> If you want story go and watch a film/movie
> People who play games for story should not be gaming/don't really like gaming

I think that it's a narrow and ignorant view and it comes from people who in my opinion don't really understand video games as a medium as much as they like to think

I think there is space for all types of games

Agreed. While I do love highscore arcade like titles like Pac-Man, Tetris, Galaga, etc. there is only so much I can play of those without feeling like I'm wasting my time and not gaining anything (other than becoming good at Pac-Man). It's cool experiencing the game developers designed, but there needs to be something other than just gameplay that's fulfilling my desire to bear with the repetitive nature of games in a lot of cases.
 
Half-Life 3 was never announced by Valve no it said that it's on development. Sony on the other hand had promised a free version of Drive Club but they never fulfilled their promise.

There is a difference.

Valve literally had episode 3 planned, they told us this and anyways I also said games like that which means The Last Guardian, Agent and whatever other vaporware game that everybody wants that's never coming out. Shit happens, it's annoying but what a waste of time it is to rage about it and act as if it's on the same level as Ubisoft releasing a broken game or Gearbox lying about their game right until you bought it and realized what a shit stain it is. THAT'S what people should get worked up about because that's paying customers getting affected. a demo of a game that's already never being released means fuck all in my opinion.
 

Liamc723

Member
They're pitched as "free". Nowadays ps plus is aimed more at online access with a few benefits, one of those benefits being acess to "free" games.

On the PS3 where online was free, a ps plus subscription was simply a subscription to get access to games, and the games were better, they were more full retail games as opposed to indies.

Now though ps plus has evolved and there's less emphasis on the games in my opinion.

Nope, in the PlayStation Blog posts announcing new games they are NEVER advertised as free. Simply "this month's PlayStation Plus games". The online access and PS+ games go hand in hand as part of the price. You are paying for access to these games.
 

bomblord1

Banned
I have absolutely no issue with any recent decision Nintendo has made and don't think they should be forced to have feature parity with the ps4 and xone.

I wouldn't object to them being brought in line with them though I just am perfectly content with them not.
 

crimilde

Banned
The Order 1886 is a good game

Agreed. I really enjoyed it, and the sound design was fantastic.
I am looking forward to see what they have in store for it.

As for me, I never got the Skyrim hype. After Morrowind, the Elder Scrolls was pretty much dead to me.

EDIT: Almost forgot, I hate Assassin's Creed with a passion. I have no idea why really, but there is something about it which makes my blood boil, hahahaha. Maybe it's just the way that Ubi are milking the shit out of it.
 
I think I actually have a rather controversial opinion this time:

I don't think the level design in DOOM is all that great. I played Ultimate DOOM this year, and while it's larger and more freeing than modern FPS, it's also labyrinthian in nature and once I cleared out enemies I was usually just wandering around for 15 minutes trying to find a key card to move on. I'd much rather have a tighter experience which is why when this picture pops up, I rejoice at the picture on the right.

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That's a fair opinion. I feel like the middle ground is something like Bad company or Crysis. Where it's not a hallway, but you still know in general where you need to be going, but you have an open area with freedom to attack your objectives in whatever way you choose
 

Wensih

Member
That's a fair opinion. I feel like the middle ground is something like Bad company or Crysis. Where it's not a hallway, but you still know in general where you need to be going, but you have an open area with freedom to attack your objectives in whatever way you choose
I can definitely agree with that as well.
 

Discomurf

Member
I am a huge Nintendo fan and...

Super Smash Bros is a horribly mindless and boring fighting game that isn't fun.The UI and menu system is a fugly travesty as well.
 

komojo

Neo Member
Remember Rocket Knight XBLA, the game everyone here hates and says has a terrible art style?

I think the art looks perfectly fine, it plays better than the original game and it's one of my favorite Xbox 360 games.
 
I think I actually have a rather controversial opinion this time:

I don't think the level design in DOOM is all that great. I played Ultimate DOOM this year, and while it's larger and more freeing than modern FPS, it's also labyrinthian in nature and once I cleared out enemies I was usually just wandering around for 15 minutes trying to find a key card to move on. I'd much rather have a tighter experience which is why when this picture pops up, I rejoice at the picture on the right.

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Modern devs love him!
 

hemtae

Member
Demon Souls wasn't particularly great and is the worst of the Souls games excluding Bloodboure (because I haven't played it). It had some hints of greatness that were eventually realized with Dark Souls but without Dark Souls, I don't think it would be as fondly remembered as is it is.

RPGs as a whole (both western and japanese) have largely declined in quality from 2005 to 2012 compared to 1997-2004. Thankfully, things have started to look up these last couple of years.
 

Joey Ravn

Banned

Well, then, that's false advertising.

The fact is that those games are behind a paywall: you cannot access them without paying Sony a monthly fee. These "free" games are part of a paid service, and it doesn't matter whether they are the focus of the system or not. They are part of it, and you cannot disassociate one from the other. You can't get the games on their own without paying for the rest of the service, just like you can't get the rest of the service without getting the games. Yeah, sure: you can choose not to add them to your account, but there's no "tier" of PS+ that excludes the monthly games.

I think it's enough beating the dead horse, though. People who want to completely ignore the monetary requirement to get these games will continue to do so, and, therefore, these games will be "free" for them. Those who see PS+ as a paid service and these games as a part of said service will continue to do so. Let's pick our prefered poison and move on.
 

OCD Guy

Member
P.T is one of the most overhyped pieces of software I've ever come across.

Nowhere near as good as people have made out in my opinion.
 

Golicz

Banned
Here's my own 'controversial' opinion: I think GTA 5 was one of the most boring, lifeless open world games I've ever played which was also unforgivably blighted by an extremely linear/scripted single player campaign mode.

I'd actually like to see a brakedown of all the side activities, because when people say "you can play golf & tennis!", well, I can play better officially dedicated golf & tennis games elsewhere.

In my sixty hours of gameplay on the Xbox 360, I did the following 'side activities': I bought guns & body armor, bought clothes, flew a plane through giant colored circles in the sky, modded cars & their paint, I did triathlon a couple of times, rode a mountain bike down Mount Chiliad,
spied on a Hollywood actress having sex in her back-garden
& basically stole a lot of cars & got engaged in a ton of car chases with the police - who were far too easy to evade.

As for the main story: Heists were few & far between, likewise they were extremely scripted. Character stat upgrades were also of seemingly little consequence or utility. People say GTA 5 has tons of content, well, I didn't see it (I'm strictly referring to single player here). Streets have nothing in them, bar a few clothing stores & the ubiquitous amunations.

Red Dead Redemption was a far better open world game.
Although shame about the crappy story, because RDR = great script, great characters, crappy story
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There, that was my "so controversial I've raised my flame-shield" opinion.
 

akitaone

Banned
I love reading this thread. So good to see people with their own opinions instead of the hype for certain games...listen to Chuck D and Don't Believe the Hype! :-D
 
I think consoles are becoming redundant as PC keeps getting more games that were previously console-exclusive. Wii U is the only console that sets itself apart.
 

JSoup

Banned
PSPlus is NOT free, its not a genereous gift by sony, its a SERVICE you PAY MONEY for. Its beyond me how people arent able to understand that,

Depends on what you're intending to pay for, I'd think.
I'm paying $50 a year for the security of cloud storage, so I don't have to worry about my PS3 suddenly deciding to eat my saves (which did happen, prompting me to look into prevention methods). Far as I'm concerned, the storage service is worth the $50, the free games are just gravy.
 

BGMNTS

Member
FFVIII > FFVII

Pretty trite but that's pretty much it.

Although I was unaware liking Witcher 2 over 1 was controversial. They're both pretty blegh.
 

mokeyjoe

Member
I think I actually have a rather controversial opinion this time:

I don't think the level design in DOOM is all that great. I played Ultimate DOOM this year, and while it's larger and more freeing than modern FPS, it's also labyrinthian in nature and once I cleared out enemies I was usually just wandering around for 15 minutes trying to find a key card to move on. I'd much rather have a tighter experience which is why when this picture pops up, I rejoice at the picture on the right.

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I LOVE Doom - but I know what you mean. I certainly thought Doom 2 had some levels that were fairly interminable on first playthrough, Even so I do find point to point style FPS games pretty boring.

I think Metroid Prime hit a good middle ground - yes it wasn't divided into 'levels' but it could have been. You generally know where to go but there's still some exploring to do.
 
Console gaming and PC gaming is dead, mobile gaming is the only platform that matters.

That is until VR and immersion gaming breaks through, but it will be so expensive to have a serious immersion gaming setup that the only place the regular person will be able to experience it is at arcades. So arcades will make a big comeback, but eventually home setups will be cheap enough that consoles once again kill the arcade like the NES did and history will repeat itself.

But for now console and PC gaming is dead.
 

gelf

Member
I'd actually like to see a brakedown of all the side activities, because when people say "you can play golf & tennis!", well, I can play better officially dedicated golf & tennis games elsewhere.
This is a long held issue I've had with a lot of games side activities or mini games, unless its something really unique you can often find a better dedicated example of it elsewhere. Why play tennis in GTA when you can play Virtua Tennis or Top Spin.
 

OCD Guy

Member
mobile gaming is the only platform that matters.

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The day that actually happens is the day I'll give up on gaming.

Playing some random mobile game for 5 minutes while sitting down in a waiting room or something is not what I'd class as "gaming".

In the same way playing snake on old Nokia phones wasn't gaming. Mobile games are just distractions, although yes they are pretty distractions.
 

Tenebrous

Member
30 hours in, so I might have to change my mind at a later date.

Witcher 3 isn't as good as a lot of people are making it out to be, and that's as a Witcher fan.
 
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