You're exactly right. I'm rewatching the lore videos now (damn, they are so good) and had it mixed up. There was a truce with The First Men and The Children. It was the Andals that came later and slaughtered The Children of the Forest.
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DodgyGeezerFella
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Everybody who has died throughout the show is probably better off after seeing that ......
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TheLostBigBoss
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Yeah first really good episode of the season.
Although i didn't get the argument about "breaking the wheel", you're a Targaryen, so you getting to power by killing everyone else just keeps the wheel spinning, it's not like you're instituting a democracy or whatever.
Also, ffs Jorah get over it.
Although i didn't get the argument about "breaking the wheel", you're a Targaryen, so you getting to power by killing everyone else just keeps the wheel spinning, it's not like you're instituting a democracy or whatever.
Also, ffs Jorah get over it.
poppabk
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I'm thinking that's exactly what she means - she is going to create a democracy or some kind of republic.
PhoenixDark
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As always, googling character names mentioned here would be a bad idea fellas. Be safe, and it's better to PM someone for info than google.
I can't remember exactly what site it was... but I read it last week and it was pretty cool.. Basically, it was like.. a recap of the episode, and then at the bottom they went piece by piece and compared what happens in the show and what happens in the book to show what, if any differences there were..
Anyone happen to know what that was off the top of their head? It's driving me nuts. I'm pretty sure it was a major news/media type site too.
Anyone happen to know what that was off the top of their head? It's driving me nuts. I'm pretty sure it was a major news/media type site too.
TheLostBigBoss
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ign does that
Calcium
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That was an amazing episode. The scenes with Tyrion and Daenerys and the confrontation with the Wildlings were spectacular and on top of that the Army of the Dead appears to make it even better. It's really nice to start seeing things come together. I'll be on the edge of my seat for the rest of this season and probably most of the next one.
Ok, 'cause she's always using her dragons and huge army as an argument.
Can't wait to see what splendid idea she comes up with /s.
Though having Tyrion on her side already fills me with some hope for her whole side of the story.
the_firewithin
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just tormund. to agree with him I think
FantasticMrFoxdie
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It kind of bugs me how the white walkers shatter on impact.
They need to make dragonglass arrows ASAP and get their best archers on it.
Sad because I have a feeling he is. I feel like we haven't had one of those classic GoT "fuck all of you" moments of this season.
They need to make dragonglass arrows ASAP and get their best archers on it.
Sad because I have a feeling he is. I feel like we haven't had one of those classic GoT "fuck all of you" moments of this season.
Forceatowulf
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What an amazing episode. So many great scenes I don't even know where to begin...
WW walking towards Jon as the fire around him parts. Damn.
Wide shot of the Four Horseman of the Apocalypse. Damn.
Creepy as FUCK undead children. Damn.
Cool Wildling lady getting ate alive. Damn.
Giant going hard as fuck in the paint. Damn.
Undead running off a cliff giving zero fucks. Damn.
Jonny Snows giving that shook as fuck WW the Valyrian pipe, shattering all his shit up. Damn.
Night king raising his new dead army, holding up his arms like: "What's good, Jonny Snows? Come fuck wit cha boy." God Damn.
WW walking towards Jon as the fire around him parts. Damn.
Wide shot of the Four Horseman of the Apocalypse. Damn.
Creepy as FUCK undead children. Damn.
Cool Wildling lady getting ate alive. Damn.
Giant going hard as fuck in the paint. Damn.
Undead running off a cliff giving zero fucks. Damn.
Jonny Snows giving that shook as fuck WW the Valyrian pipe, shattering all his shit up. Damn.
Night king raising his new dead army, holding up his arms like: "What's good, Jonny Snows? Come fuck wit cha boy." God Damn.
Acrylic7
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Yup. I would have stolen that shit and ran.
I thought he said "Tormund" to agree to go with Tormund.
Liquidsnake
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It was 10/10
TimeEffect
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Why would there be human agents working for White Walkers?
White Walkers look like they kill everybody and turn them into zombies/hivemind, there's like no reason to side with them.
White Walkers look like they kill everybody and turn them into zombies/hivemind, there's like no reason to side with them.
Future PhaZe
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TheLostBigBoss
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Have you forgotten the old dude who was banging his daughters was doing?
He was supplying his new born boys to the White Walkers, so there might be reason to work for them, even if in the back of your mind you know it's only lasting as long as they want the agreement to last
Now... getting agents over the wall is another question, and honestly having a specific character mentioned a while back is quite a fucking reach and it makes me question how that outcome was reached.
DeathByBacklog
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Sounds like what they do over at IGN.
ComputerBlue
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I'd love an episode dedicated only to the white walkers, I want to know more about their background and their reasoning because right now they're just killing for the sake of killing and aside from a handful of generals and leaders that we've seen, the rest have been mindless dead that would serve no purpose outside of killing, at which point if they do kill everyone, then what...they just stand around for the rest of eternity with no purpose?
I would've been worried that just touching the weapon would be insta-freeze for a mortal. You're right though, it would've been very compelling evidence if it could be handled.
What an episode. My favourite of the season and definitely in my top four (Blackwater, The Wall and Episode 8 last season).
So much amazing action, seeing the mother wildling die was sad but expected after she said bye to her children.
Cersei in the cells was great and it's so satisfying see her slowly break.
Dany and Tyrion seem to work well together and they'll make a great team, now just get Varys to Maureen.
Ramsay has his plan for the Stannis but I really hope it completely backfires and Ramsay dies instead.
So much amazing action, seeing the mother wildling die was sad but expected after she said bye to her children.
Cersei in the cells was great and it's so satisfying see her slowly break.
Dany and Tyrion seem to work well together and they'll make a great team, now just get Varys to Maureen.
Ramsay has his plan for the Stannis but I really hope it completely backfires and Ramsay dies instead.
Braag
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Yes, "Longclaw" which he got from Mormont back in S1.
TheOctodad
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In the heat of battle with all the WTF you'd be feeling with just surviving that fight in the first place, I doubt most of us would have been thinking about it.
liliththepale
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Something that amazed me about this episode was how good the battle scene was considering it only took place in the back third of the episode. All of the other battle episodes have been pretty clear "this episode is just about the battle" so you got psyched up for it. Then this fight comes almost out of nowhere and manages to be at least as good as the Wall and Blackwater. Wow. I don't normally rewatch the episodes right away but I think I'll have to do that with this one.
Varys still missing though, which is a bummer.
Varys still missing though, which is a bummer.
the_firewithin
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Yah I really hope varys isn't the next "still rowing"
freakzilla149
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Jon Snow is our new action hero saviour. Fuck Batman, he's the real darkknight.
It took a looong fucking time for the white walkers to make a proper appearance though, holy shit. Even I was starting to wonder if the were real, no wonder the Westerosis don't give a fuck.
It took a looong fucking time for the white walkers to make a proper appearance though, holy shit. Even I was starting to wonder if the were real, no wonder the Westerosis don't give a fuck.
Good damn good episode.
- I'm getting a feeling Jon will end up being the "big death" of this season.
- Also I kinda feel like Cercei on the other hand is being built up to make it out and fucking revenge-kill every barefoot lunatic in King's Landing
- Little Crow asking questions will probably die saving Jon, if Jon doesn't die
- Or red-beard might die that way
All in all this episode proved you don't need amazing 10/10 Sand Snake woman to have a good episode
- I'm getting a feeling Jon will end up being the "big death" of this season.
- Also I kinda feel like Cercei on the other hand is being built up to make it out and fucking revenge-kill every barefoot lunatic in King's Landing
- Little Crow asking questions will probably die saving Jon, if Jon doesn't die
- Or red-beard might die that way
All in all this episode proved you don't need amazing 10/10 Sand Snake woman to have a good episode
IAmRandom31
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It was me just spitballing. Sounded good , and would be an interesting twist. That and I despise LF so for him to be an agent for the WW would be a fitting discovery that would allow everyone else to hate him too. Purposefully keeping Westeros at War with itself so as to make sure when the WW do invade the land is broken and divided and weakened.
DeathByBacklog
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but those boobz...
"Still looking for Tyrion..."
DodgyGeezerFella
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Battle beats Boob.
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Uuuuugggghhhhhh
Best Episode of the Entire Series IMO
Maybe not even for this series, I mean just from the production value alone this episode is an amazing achievement in television production. I cant even think of another show that has been able to come even close to delivering these amazing battles at that scale without a movie sized budget, and that was just one episode.
If characters on the show didnt consider the White Walkers a serious threat yet, they are shitting their pants now lol. Since these actions havent taken place yet in the books I wonder if GRRM had any input on this battle at all or if the show runners came up with this on their own and if in the books something completely different was meant to happen.
I really dont want this show to end up like the original Full Metal Alchemist anime series, where the manga wasnt finished before the show and they had to start making everything up after a certain point and basically went a completely different route than the source material.
Predictions for whats to come after the reveal of how powerful the White Walkers are:
Basically everything is building to the point where the Walkers are going to just push down through Westeroes killing everything in their path building the biggest army anyone has ever seen. John Snow (definitely half Stark and half Targaryen) Leads the battle against the White Walkers because only he can along with help from every army thats still standing.
Once the end is nearly in sight and all hope is lost, Dany Targaryen swoops in with her Dragons and army to save the day in which leads to her to the Iron Throne. Her Dragons will probably be able to defeat the White Walkers all by them selves and is probably why the Walkers havent attacked until they thought all the Dragons were gone.
Maybe not even for this series, I mean just from the production value alone this episode is an amazing achievement in television production. I cant even think of another show that has been able to come even close to delivering these amazing battles at that scale without a movie sized budget, and that was just one episode.
If characters on the show didnt consider the White Walkers a serious threat yet, they are shitting their pants now lol. Since these actions havent taken place yet in the books I wonder if GRRM had any input on this battle at all or if the show runners came up with this on their own and if in the books something completely different was meant to happen.
I really dont want this show to end up like the original Full Metal Alchemist anime series, where the manga wasnt finished before the show and they had to start making everything up after a certain point and basically went a completely different route than the source material.
Predictions for whats to come after the reveal of how powerful the White Walkers are:
Basically everything is building to the point where the Walkers are going to just push down through Westeroes killing everything in their path building the biggest army anyone has ever seen. John Snow (definitely half Stark and half Targaryen) Leads the battle against the White Walkers because only he can along with help from every army thats still standing.
Once the end is nearly in sight and all hope is lost, Dany Targaryen swoops in with her Dragons and army to save the day in which leads to her to the Iron Throne. Her Dragons will probably be able to defeat the White Walkers all by them selves and is probably why the Walkers havent attacked until they thought all the Dragons were gone.
TheLostBigBoss
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Last time White Walkers attacked Dragons had nothing to do with anything, it was just The First Men and The Children of the Forrest.
I said it before, I highly doubt the series is going to end like this. It reminds me of something I heard in highschool before the great depression. "A stock broker was getting his hair cut and his barber was talking about the stock market and giving advice about trading, he knew then something was horribly going wrong."
I feel something like that is happening, anyone with a brain can see that Danny's dragons are the trump card, and I highly doubt this story is going to string us along for two to three more seasons just so we can see what has been so obvious for the past few years.
I think the most logical thing is we're missing something, that things are not as they seem and we're being strung along just so more expectations can be subverted.
Nameless
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Yeah I get the impression that the Wights are mindless minions/foot soldiers, the regular White Walkers are the captains and lieutenants, and the robed/horse back Walkers are the equivalent to Liege Lords.
As to their motivations, I think it goes back to Melisandre's conversation with Shireen last season.
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The Lord of Darknesss will win the eternal war with The Lord of Light if & when all life has been extinguished from the world.
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