The Artisan
Member
20.2 wasn't a sell-through number?So exactly what I said then.... they've only announced one sell through number for 2015.
20.2 wasn't a sell-through number?So exactly what I said then.... they've only announced one sell through number for 2015.
I don't see the point. Microsoft is going to all out give away their console again this year with temp price reduction + free games + gift cards. At least in the US and UK. Sony is confidently winning at all other times worldwide at a $50 price disadvantage.
I don't think MS will be going as hard as they went last year. Too many games coming late this year that will make people want to move over. I think we'll just see a $50 price drop on all SKUs, new SKUs with Holiday games (Tomb Raider and Halo 5), and a sticker on boxes saying "compatible with Xbox 360 games**".
(**150 titles currently supported; more coming soon)
Economies of scale.
Both Sony and Microsoft have some deal with AMD for the production of their respective APUs, and it's fairly standard business practice to reduce the cost as time goes and tens million of units are produced. And the same goes for every supply partner they work with.
So, they actually may have sold the PS4 at cost during launch, but they're certainly making some good money from each sold console today.
I doubt they are THAT concerned about Xbox...This holiday.
I disagree. Why delay it to Spring? If you are going to do it, you do it before Christmas.
Sure, they don't "need" it, but what's $50 bucks in the long term if they persuade a few more people to go PS instead of Xbox due to the price? Because MS is bringing the heat this holiday (in the US at least), I would say getting consumers buying games on PS for years to come is a more important business decision than being $50 more expensive.
Yeah, I wanted to get another one as well, not one at almost $300.00 though. I have two dead PS3's on my table, don't think I should spend so much to play a few games on my backlog there.Don't expect Sony to support the PS3 or Vita in any real meaningful way from now on. I would like a PS3 price drop. To at least $99. I'd at least buy another one.
I don't know if people noticed last gen, but all the exclusives in the world never helped the PS3 outsell the 360 during the holidays.
Yeah, I ain't buying a PS4 until 2017 at this point.I dunno, but us Canadians would like a price dropto $399 :-(
At the start. But even 4-5 years into the generation when they were the same price exclusives still never really mattered that much more than being associated with Call of Duty or the next shooter.The 360 had a one year head start that helped its gaming library and "console my friends have"-statements and a price that was $200 cheaper.
PS4 vs. Xbox One is pretty different. Xbox One is cheaper, and none of the consoles are similar to the Xbox 360's (or PS3's) position in North America vs. their competition during this point of the gen. Games like Halo 5 are definitely going to help this Holiday season. Uncharted 4 would have too for the PS4 if it didn't get delayed.
I think MS will go $299 + free games at least. This year is their last shot at taking back the US. If they don't outsell Sony by 1 - 1.5M consoles in Nov - Dec it's all for naught like last holiday.
At the start. But even 4-5 years into the generation when they were the same price exclusives still never really mattered that much more than being associated with Call of Duty or the next shooter.
yep
u.s sales haven't exactly been great lately. it even lost the other month to the xb1.Let's rather ask the question: Why would Sony lower the price of the PS4?
Possible options would be:
A) Sales are slow
B) The comptition is lowering their prices and Sony sees that as a threat
C) They want to boost hardware sales to sell more software
Certainly only C seems plausible at the current time. But only if the projected earnings with increased software surpass the losses induced by lower margins on hardware. This is something their analysts are working on every day.
Let's rather ask the question: Why would Sony lower the price of the PS4?
Possible options would be:
A) Sales are slow
B) The comptition is lowering their prices and Sony sees that as a threat
C) They want to boost hardware sales to sell more software
Certainly only C seems plausible at the current time. But only if the projected earnings with increased software surpass the losses induced by lower margins on hardware. This is something their analysts are working on every day.
It shouldn't have one this year if Sony can't get it to $299.
Holiday 2016 at the latest seems like the safest bet.
u.s sales haven't exactly been great lately. it even lost the other month to the xb1.
Define dominating? WW sure, but in the end NA is the biggest and most influential market, they already got outsold in April or whatever, no games, people just decided to buy more Xbox. They will get easily outsold this holiday in NA at the current price.
the xb1 isn't exactly selling very well at all and now the ps4 is barely beating it by 13k. that isn't exactly something to be proud of.It lost 1 month by like 13K and then won the following month by 13K.
People are making way too big a deal over Xbox One beating the PS4 in April here.
It lost 1 month by like 13K and then won the following month by 13K.
People are making way too big a deal over Xbox One beating the PS4 in April here.
I think a lot of the 'exclusives' momentum Microsoft have is going to be nullified by the CoD and Battlefront announcements. That actually will make a difference, most exclusives are short lived affairs, big online multiplayer games are for life.