Smurfman256
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Supposedly, a remade version of DOOM 1 will be DLC (possibly a pre-order bonus). The same person who leaked that also leaked SnapMap before E3.
DOOM Gameplay Demo (E3 2015)
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Supposedly, a remade version of DOOM 1 will be DLC (possibly a pre-order bonus). The same person who leaked that also leaked SnapMap before E3.
Can we not enjoy a good spoopy skellington?
mdsfx
Member
Oh my god yes please. I just played through the original for kicks over the weekend. Amazing how well such a simple game holds up. I had a lot of fun.
I don't know if Plutonia is really possible cause no water physics in this game and no jungle vines to get the mood right.
peanutbutterlatte
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Sell me a "Classic Monster Skin Pack", I'd buy. Long as I don't have to have my first encounter with the Cyberdemon be hilarious because wow.
They ain't going to do one.
At least, i sincerely believe no such thing is ever going to happen.
Doesn't matter where you look, demons and monsters are over-designed, over "cool" nowadays, i think.
Don't know if it is the attitudes ("more spikes, scary and cool") or the computing power available... but i figure this is one thing that won't change.
Unfortunately.
(Starcraft 2 is a good example of shit designs. Both the zerg and protoss have lost all the spirit and feel of the originals and are overdesigned. Actually, any modern Blizzard game. But don't think it is limited to them.)
Tbh, I really like what I've seen so far with this new Doom. I don't think the movement speed is too slow. Maybe if they allowed bunnyhopping or whatever the strafe running thing is called in Doom. The color scheme I thought was actually pretty did. To my eyes it doesn't seem like there is a filter over it, and peoples comparison images seem pretty cherry picked.
My god the combat just looks so refreshing from everything that I have seen. Tbh I'm not just looking for another quake-esque arena maps that I can skillhack my way through. All that contextual melee or attacking where you look on the enemy was insane. The chainsaw stuff could be a little less scripted though.
My god the combat just looks so refreshing from everything that I have seen. Tbh I'm not just looking for another quake-esque arena maps that I can skillhack my way through. All that contextual melee or attacking where you look on the enemy was insane. The chainsaw stuff could be a little less scripted though.
Ixion
Member
Adam Sessler asked Marty if we can create Doom 1 in SnapMap and Marty said "You can try! lol", which leads me to believe it's not really possible to do a 1:1 remake. I hope I'm wrong.
SPACECADET
Member
i was just watching the doom reactions from quakecon 2014 in retrospect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDlCR9uSOtg
i'm looking forward to this definitely, but they really enjoyed what we've now all seen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDlCR9uSOtg
i'm looking forward to this definitely, but they really enjoyed what we've now all seen.
tokyopunchout
Member
I did the same thing
Who knew the 2nd reboot of Wolfenstein could be so good?
Also as many have said, I'm concerned with the speed, but that should be addressed once the Beta actually gets announced at Quakecon and then we can finally get our hands on it...
Somehow i'd imagine that would be a multiplayer beta. And there's no guarantee MP changes affect singleplayer. Logically they should keep them same but... Well...
Assuming Bethesda does intend to release Doom DLC, I'll be surprised if it's the whole campaign. I mean, the intention may be to remake the original Doom's mission line in its entirety, but I'd wager the only sure thing at this stage is the first episode, with the later two being contingent upon sales, especially after Rage sold below expectations to the point that Bethesda has never provided figures.
Cave Johnson
Member
Monster glow for "press x to awesome". Ugh...
The cyber demon is the one design I really don't like. Hope that gets tweaked.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Ditto!
They should stick to what inspired DOOM for the original Barons of Hell too...
MiguelItUp
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Yeah, I don't understand how they were comfortable with that. I would've preferred the look from the teaser. The art style looks so out of place.
Smurfman256
Member
Think they're gonna announce the DOOM Beta start date today or later on? What day do they usually have the press conference on at QuakeCon?
Triggerhappytel
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efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
Ditto!
They should stick to what inspired DOOM for the original Barons of Hell too...
HELL YES
The Lamonster
Member
I wish they would have kept the old colors instead.
got damn, the top one looks so much better!
Triggerhappytel
Member
Ditto!
They should stick to what inspired DOOM for the original Barons of Hell too...
The make-up in that film is excellent; even the goblins look amazing. I tried to get my five year old to watch it a while ago, but she got a bit scared so we couldn't.
I wish they would have kept the old colors instead.
Is the bottom one a real screen from the new Doom? Holy shit; they pinched Human Revolution's piss yellow filter!
Triggerhappytel
Member
Sorry, DP.
visiblemode
Member
I'm not 100% sure about what I think yet, but I'll be getting it if only for the nostalgia. I've missed old school Id, particularly Quake actually, but this will do.
I also think the colour grading could use a little tweaking, but I'm not on board with the all out old school colours. Looks a little too cartoony
Why do the cacodemons look so tired? I laugh every time I see them in screenshots. I don't even expect them to attack. They are like your lazy friends that just woke up hungover in the middle of the afternoon, "Oooh hey guyyys, what's going on?"
Edit: Also legit cacodemon critique: they look way too small. They were big balls of bullet sponge in the last one. They look too dinky. As does the cyberdemon.
Why do the cacodemons look so tired? I laugh every time I see them in screenshots. I don't even expect them to attack. They are like your lazy friends that just woke up hungover in the middle of the afternoon, "Oooh hey guyyys, what's going on?"
Edit: Also legit cacodemon critique: they look way too small. They were big balls of bullet sponge in the last one. They look too dinky. As does the cyberdemon.
Smurfman256
Member
Assuming that Doomguy is ~76in (~193cm), with his head appearing square to the Cyberdemon's nutsack, that would make the Cyberdemon about 15-16ft (~4.8m) tall, which seems to be about the same size at least as the DOOM 3 counterpart.
EDIT: Correction, he still seems to be roughly in the 15-20ft area in Classic DOOM
(Compared to DOOM 4/Nu-DOOM) https://youtu.be/QiinO9JPUGw?t=19m56s
Smurfman256
Member
So when is the QuakeCon press-conference thing going to take place?
Ixion
Member
QuakeCon is July 23rd - 26th, so I'm guessing the KeyNote is the 23rd.
Smurfman256
Member
Buggery. I have to wait THAT long. Oh well, I wouldn't be surprised it it was around Halloween, anyway.
maniac-kun
Member
What is turning me off as a longterm Doom fan now that some time has passed since the reveal:
- finisher kills should only be in beserker mode not all the time
- the monsters dont look like doom monsters
- monsters have the wrong color
- sound effects are not good and to much like doom 3 -- looking at you plasma gun
- gunplay dosnt convince me yet
- chess gameplay of doom 1 & 2 intact?
- deus ex piss filter
- monsters dont fight themselves
- weapons dont look doom like
- finisher kills should only be in beserker mode not all the time
- the monsters dont look like doom monsters
- monsters have the wrong color
- sound effects are not good and to much like doom 3 -- looking at you plasma gun
- gunplay dosnt convince me yet
- chess gameplay of doom 1 & 2 intact?
- deus ex piss filter
- monsters dont fight themselves
- weapons dont look doom like
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
APPARENTLY you can still make enemies fight themselves.
I hope we get to see much more during Quakecon.
This is an excellent suggestion.
I hope we get to see much more during Quakecon.
Ulysses 31
Member
I hope the executions don't freeze time for the gameworld or make you invincible.
Rewatching the video video from gamersyde at 60fps, the game is pretty fast-paced. The hell gameplay gets crazy fast at the end, they clearly weren't moving as quickly as they could in the factory. Weird considering they were talking about speed right before he footage rolled.
The biggest knock for me is the highlighting of enemies that can be melee'd. Completely unnecessary.
The biggest knock for me is the highlighting of enemies that can be melee'd. Completely unnecessary.
Smurfman256
Member
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
But seriously, Snapmap looks so damn good. Modders are going to have a field day with that.
Smurfman256
Member
It reminds me a lot of the TimeSplitters: Future Perfect map editor (which was fantastic, BTW).
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
I won't unless I can make a 1:1 replica of this map from Doom 2 in name only
You can bet your sweet ass that hundreds of old school WADders are furiosly doodling on reams upon reams of graph paper right now.
Smurfman256
Member
I won't unless I can make a 1:1 replica of this map from Doom 2 in name only
What map# of DOOM 2 is that? I wanna test it to see how it performs compared to some of the more reasonable maps in the game.
it's not doom 2, it's doom 2..in NAME Only. A special custom wad with the dumbest premise ever for a mapset.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVTXDK3r_gY
it's a pretty mediocre map , not nearly as complicated as it is made out to be.
Comfort Jones
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As someone who has been working on a Half life 2 mod like a full time job, I was literally yelling at my screen with hype.
Like this is the kind of stuff I wanted as a kid, so hype it's unreal. If it somehow sucks my angry screams will be Vegeta tier.
Ixion
Member
That actually looks really good to me. I like the size, and I *think* horns? The red "belt" around him is a bit weird, though.
Some reassuring tweets from the id Software GM, Garret Young:
What?
The AI in Doom 1 + Doom 2 was dumb like a brick (not that there's anything wrong with it)