The Handsome Llama
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Honestly, the Uncharted series is one of the most overrated and brain dead series I have ever played.
Raise the flame shield: Your "controversial" gaming opinion.
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Emperor_Uriel
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Maybe I do, which is why I'm asking you to enlighten me.
Please, point me towards some examples of tomboyish/masculine/butch female main characters in popular fiction (as in, something you'd see a topic for on GAF and not something niche) that are explicitly involved in heterosexual relationships with men.
Tell that to a straight tomboy:
Contrary to popular belief, depicting almost every woman who dresses and behaves a certain way as also being a certain sexuality is absolutely problematic. It's just as bad as every ultra-femme princess being straight.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Chie as in Chie from Persona?
Oh FFS people, can't a girl be friendly with a girl without her being immediately Yuri-fied? There's NO indication whatsoever that Chie swings that way in that game, it's just ridiculous.
I agree. Part of this is because the game just didn't feel like it have enough variety to justify multiple playthroughs.
Emperor_Uriel
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Yep, there's all sorts of stuff going on between Yukiko and her, but it's really a Harley and Ivy type deal. Nothing confirmed. Still, I've seen them mentioned in a lot of LGBT threads.
You might as well say " can't someone write a girl who can be friendly with a girl without them both being immediately Yuri-fied?" Evidence points to "no" when at least one of those girls could be thought of as fitting a male role.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
No there aren't, and it's nothing but a bunch of hyperactive imagination of people who have nothing better to do with their time.
Look, LGBT characters are cool, sure, but when people start ascribing things to characters that aren't there just to satisfy their Yaoi/Yuri fangirling/fanboyish stuff then I personally think it's just really annoying.
Especially so since Yaoi/Yuri fangirls/fanboys tend to immediately create scenarios in their heads whenever they see guy-guy or girl-girl friendships. Geezz.
Clockwork5
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The combat in the witcher 3 is pure garbage. It's a shame because the game does so many other things right.
Considering the fact that you think Chie is gay based on 'evidence' that amounts to her being a tomboyish friend, you are guilty of what you describe. Guessing somebody's sexual preferences based on behaviour/style.
LowlySmokeGuy
Banned
Huh? You mean the checkpoint system, right? Those games continuously save your progress. There aren't many checkpoints in the games, but there are plenty shortcuts that help. Maybe you never bothered to look for them.
Terareflection
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Brienne from ASoIF/GoT? Though she isn't a video game character.
Good point.The archetype recently started to emerge again due to the LGBT movement, though the execution of it has been wishy-washy at best. I think Ellie is one of better written examples though, so I can't really say it's problematic in this case. A stereotype or archetype is only as good as the one who writes it IMO.
On Topic: The Evil Within should have been the 2014 GOTY, performance be dammed. Though I think it will be thought of more positively as time goes on ( and if it gets patched more).
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
I'd be more excited for Persona 5 if the protagonist was a female instead.
It's a sin that we have to pay for online on PS4.
It's a sin that we have to pay for online on PS4.
Rimon-hanit
Member
Oprah Winfrey should become a game reviewer I'll buy anything she recommends, that's all I got.
Cheat Code
Member
The existence of The Evil Within is going to be forgotten unless a sequel is made.
AwesomePossum
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Most modern Nintendo games are pretty boring.
biggersmaller
Banned
Yup. People are going to get excited about the system they own. Sony is selling more units, so...yeah. Tables were turned in the early PS360 era and eople still make "$599 PS3 LOL" posts.
Although to contests my own logic, I see plenty of love for Nintendo products. I think people are just mistaking the lack of enthusiasm for Xbone as Sony love. MS just soured GAF after that DRM debacle and releasing an overpriced system.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
I actually thought your point on Left Behind was really interesting but now you're just veering off into goofiness.
gigantor21
Member
Having gotten a New3DSXL at launch, I'm gonna have to agree with this. So far, Smash 4 is the only game that has lived up to the breathless hype Nintendo's first party output receives. Haven't played any Zelda games on it yet, though.
Princess Viola
Member
I think video games are fun.
Everything about the way it controls is garbage. But we knew this going in since the devs mentioned the combat would be refined from TW2.
Terareflection
Member
Nah. Gaming press seems to like the recent DLC, and there's the inevitable complete edition.
Not all, but I agree generally.
AyaisMUsikWhore
Member
I hate that some people aren't adventurous with games and stay within their confided bubbles but feel they can have opinions on games they never played, much yet liked or even tried.
Maybe not controversial but whatever.
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Watching games are not and will never be equal to playing them. You can't watch someone else's life and know what they went through, the same shouldn't be applied to games.
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I hate that the word "multiplaform" is now and insult rather than a good thing. But I hate that "exclusive" is described as greedy rather than being strictly business.
Maybe not controversial but whatever.
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Watching games are not and will never be equal to playing them. You can't watch someone else's life and know what they went through, the same shouldn't be applied to games.
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I hate that the word "multiplaform" is now and insult rather than a good thing. But I hate that "exclusive" is described as greedy rather than being strictly business.
A comment like that shows that they don't understand how the save system works in the first place. Taste doesn't even enter the equation.
Emperor_Uriel
Member
The implication is there and it's pretty explicit. Yukiko's shadow referring to Chie as her "strong prince," Chie's shadow being a dominatrix that represents her control over Yukiko, the whole "My soulmate is a girl?" thing, etc.
That's not really speculative, it's a pretty concrete suggestion that there are deeper feelings between the two. Feelings that the writers chose to include, again, because Chie is a tomboy and tomboys can't be purely platonic friends with girls.
So yeah, it falls into a similarly problematic category as the other examples.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
No not really. They're just very good friends. Not a single time in P4 or P4G it was suggested that Yukiko and/or Chie has romantic feelings toward each other.
Oh, and if what you say is true then Naoto should also want to bang all the female characters in the game. And don't forget Marie as well, in P4G. I mean, they're tomboys too, you know; Naoto even more so than Chie.
Emperor_Uriel
Member
B-but Naoto and Marie didn't have scenes that placed them in sexually charged roles (domme and prince) in relation to other same-sex characters. What's the point of doing that as a writer if you aren't trying to say....
Okay fine, let's drop Chie then. I'm not doing a good job of illustrating what the problem is with her, as obviously suggestive as I think some of that stuff is.
The larger point, which people were agreeing with, still stands.
Sequence Six
Member
Chie doesn't want Yukiko; she wants someone to control to feel better about herself and how she views her own life. Yukiko doesn't want Chie; she wants someone to tell her what to do so she doesn't have the pressure of self-determination. Both of them grow out of those notions as the game goes along. Neither situation has anything inherently to do with their sexuality.
Shipping is the worst
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Most Nintendo party games--Mario Party, Nintendoland, etc--are tedious at best. I play them to have something to do with friends but I prefer it when we do nearly anything else.
Smash games are cool right up until people take them too seriously and think they're playing a real fighting game.
Shipping is the worst
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Most Nintendo party games--Mario Party, Nintendoland, etc--are tedious at best. I play them to have something to do with friends but I prefer it when we do nearly anything else.
Smash games are cool right up until people take them too seriously and think they're playing a real fighting game.
peanutbutterlatte
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I wouldn't say disliking the PS4's UI is controversial. It actually makes me miss my Wii U. Bland, and it doesn't even load fast for the benefit.
Lys Skygge
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I agree with the bolded.
Melchiah
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Clockwork5
Member
What in the world? I would say that is a controversial real world opinion... Tomboys can be purely platonic friends with whomever they want.
Metalingus5150
Member
Not sure if this is a controversial opinion but Gamergaters and Antigamergaters are just as bad as one another and it is basically impossible to discuss the topic of sexism within the games industry because the loudest voices on both sides are the dumbest.
Chromium.Wings
Member
I literally just started playing FFX for the "first" time last week, and it's also pretty much my first Final Fantasy game. I went on vacation, brought my Vita for the downtime I'd have, and started the game. And I'm not ashamed to admit that I am absolutely loving it.
What would you say are the best games? I'd love to check them out after I finish this game (and, well, likely also X-2).
I'm not gonna lie, I have absolutely no clue which side of "gamergate" is which. I also don't really know what the whole deal is about. I know it's sexism, but I have no idea where it's centered.
I agree with this, Smash has been ruined for me by a few people I used to play with getting super competitive. Makes it so you just can't play the game for a laugh anymore.
Same here. I suppose I could probably be considered a gaming enthusiast - I like to follow the news, I'm interested in how any and every console is doing even if I don't own them, I usually know of most new game releases, I've put a bunch of money in my gaming PC etc etc - but I'm absolutely unable to give a single fuck about any of this GG/anti-GG business.
Melchiah
Member
That's a pretty selective way to look at it. During the last gen it was all about 599, 4D with Cell, giant enemy crabs, George Foreman grills, and Riiiidge Raceeeer. Not to mention, how even minor differences between the multiplatforms were scrutinized, and the PS3 had no games. Now even more major differences are seemingly less visible and meaningful, and the PS4 has no games eventhough the facts speak differently this time. Many people have already let the DRM and cloud debacle pass, when it took years for the PS3 to get rid off the stigma.
As for COD's timed exclusive content, I don't remember it being such a hot topic when it was exclusive to the 360, but I admit that my memory could play tricks on me. On top of that, when a PC developer, like The Chinese Room, goes to the PS4, the response can be vitriolic. Yet the response wasn't the same, when Alan Wake turned out to be a 360 exclusive, eventhough the game was previously shown at PC events, unlike Everybody's Gone to the Rapture.
GTAIV has the best driving physics in the entire series. They're not perfect, mind you, but with a couple of tweaks and improvements they could've been. And that's what Rockstar promised for V, and that's what makes me salty because they forgot to mention that they completely fucked up the driving and turned it into a kid friendly dumbed down disaster. It's functional and whatnot, I wouldn't mind if it was there as an alternative for people who don't care about a shred of realism in their driving and just want to blast away. But it is the only option, so.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
I think that's something I grew out of, when me and my brothers played Brawl together I'd get super salty if I lost. Now it's all good fun; a party game, as it should be.
bobawesome
Member
People who play "Smash" competitively are the worst. All the ones I've had personal contact with, anyway.
Hardly.
Lol, no. GAF worships Vita and thinks no one wants to play NSMB games. GAF thinks Bayonetta was the best game released last year. GAF passionately hates Paper Mario Sticker Star. GAF hates mobile games. You get the point
Hardly.
hurricanes
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The Silver
Member
I'd rather have a Shadow of the Colossus sequel than the Last Guardian, I don't care about some goddamn catbird thing that's gonna try and make me cry when it gets a fakeout(or real) death scene.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
I love my Vita but the "THREE THOUSAND VITA GAMES COMING!" topic where we're treated to a PS3 indie port from two years ago, an obscure Japanese RPG that's somehow the secret best game ever (and isn't), and a Looney Tunes minigame collection that would make the App Store blush is a little much.
bobawesome
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I see nothing wrong with a topic meant to counter the toxic attitude people have about the system. I always saw it as a means to keep owners and prospective buyers up to date on new and future releases, not a bragging thread.
deltatheta
Member
I think Metroid Prime: Federation Force looks fun and I'm really looking forward to it.