Ant-Man |Spoiler Thread| I Think Our First Move Should Be Calling The Avengers

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I'm curious how the The Cure/Thomas the Tank Engine gags went with US audiences.
Being an Australian, I was in hysterics throughout the final act (plus the ping pong bug zapper).
 
Ping pong paddle got the biggest laughs in my theater. Also when Avon Barksdale said "that's one weird looking dog!"
 
Oh, man, our crowd ate it all up. Ping pong paddle, Thomas the Tank Engine, Luis's overly enthusiastic storytelling technique, all of it.

I think the emotional beats were a bit light (or perhaps just too brief), but damn if every actor in this movie didn't sell it.

I wish Avon Barksdale hadn't been wasted on a throwaway cop character, but he sold it too with "dog" bit.
 
What a fun movie. Rudd was great. Everyone did great. Pena was hilarious.

The de-aging on Douglas at the beginning was amazing. The best I've seen. Knowing that scene wasn't filmed in 1989 was the only thing that convinced me that that some de-aging was done. It was really cool.

Great tie-in with the new Avengers facility. Great miniature FX. Great humor.

Another win for Marvel.
 
That's what I had taken away from that scene too.

It doesn't look like he was caught at all. He seemed to be in pain, he wasn't resisting Cap or Falcon approaching, and the only things they talk about seem technical in nature - "Should we call Tony?" "No, he won't believe us." "I know a guy."

Falcon is clearly referring to how Scott managed to shrink and get into his suit to fuck it up. I think they're trying to help Bucky, but since the Civil War already started, they're running out of options.

It'll probably make more sense in the actual movie.
 
It doesn't look like he was caught at all. He seemed to be in pain, he wasn't resisting Cap or Falcon approaching, and the only things they talk about seem technical in nature - "Should we call Tony?" "No, he won't believe us." "I know a guy."

Falcon is clearly referring to how Scott managed to shrink and get into his suit to fuck it up. I think they're trying to help Bucky, but since the Civil War already started, they're running out of options.

It'll probably make more sense in the actual movie.

Could be a million scenarios. Could be a fight, they trap Bucky in the vice then, while trapped, comes around to the good side.. Could be anything. The most obvious thing is that the scene was at least shot for Civil War given the aspect ratio change to 2.35.1. Gonna be a helluva movie.
 
Tardigrade sighting when Scott was starting to go sub-atomic!

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I noticed this too! I gave a presentation on the little buggers a few years ago. Lovely touch!

On topic: I just came back from watching this. I was very satisfied, much more than Age of Ultron. The humour was there, the pacing wasn't too bad, and the plot was suitable.

I miss generic businessman who was shrunk and imploded however.
 
"Just the facts."
"So I'm with my cousin Diego at a coffee shop, and I'm like "I'm more of a tea person, you know? I'm not really into the drips, the soy lattes, the double shots. Just gimme some of that herbal stuff, you know, chamomile with a hint of ginger and rooibos, steeped for 9 minutes to let the flavour set in..."

"Luis."

"So my man Diego says, "the other day, you know, I was at this bar, watching the 49ers and I'm like "don't go for it on 4th and 1, their rush defence is crazy" and the guy next to me, he's wearing a hat and trench coat, see, drinkin' something fruity, and I'm like "what up with that outfit and that drink" and the guy goes "watch the outside receiver, he's gonna cut wide and the QB's gonna fake the handoff and toss it to him" and then you know what happens next?"

*sigh* "What, Luis."

"The QB fakes the handoff and tosses it to the outside receiver. It's crazy man! And then Diego's like "whoa man how'd you know that?" and the mystery man's like "lucky I guess" and Diego's like "what else you know man?" and the guy goes "I know lots of things, like how some stones have super cool powers, and if one guy got all those stones together into some sort of glove for his hand, we're all doomed." And then Diego's like "well we better make sure that guy doesn't get those stones. Where can you find those stones anyway" and he goes "well...""

*title card*
Marvel pls.

Luis needs to get a job working for Stark/The Avengers or something just as an excuse to keep him around. Plus a great Infinity War cameo when some crazy shit is going down just so we can see his reaction to the crazy shit going down.
 
Eh I still stand by that Luis is annoying outside of the "tips" scenes. Too much longwinded and such.
 
Just got home. I'd say this is up there with iron man, winter soldier and guardians. Loved the humor. Wasp seems pretty boring though. Her suit is too similar to ant man's.
 
Just got home. I'd say this is up there with iron man, winter soldier and guardians. Loved the humor. Wasp seems pretty boring though. Her suit is too similar to ant man's.

The Wasp flashback scene is very disappointing in design because it's literally Ant-Man w/ Boob Armor. The prototype Wasp suit in the mid-credits scene looks pretty ace though. Lots of potential!
 
I audibly shouted, "Oh no!" when Antony got shot.

Also, people talk about what the movie could have been with Wright still on board (I wonder as well, as a big Wright fan myself) but after reading what Wright and Cornish had and what was added later, I think people should wonder what the film could have been with Reed, McKay, and Rudd all given more time.
 
I was expecting Scott to come back from the micro-verse and keep growing to become giant before shrinking back down to normal size. I guess they have to leave something for the sequel Civil War
 
It doesn't look like he was caught at all. He seemed to be in pain, he wasn't resisting Cap or Falcon approaching, and the only things they talk about seem technical in nature - "Should we call Tony?" "No, he won't believe us." "I know a guy."

Falcon is clearly referring to how Scott managed to shrink and get into his suit to fuck it up. I think they're trying to help Bucky, but since the Civil War already started, they're running out of options.

It'll probably make more sense in the actual movie.

Well I don't think Falcon was in combat gear so I think they either restrained Bucky or he came to them for help. They need Ant-Man possibly to go into the bionic arm to fix it. Bucky's arm looks like it's in some clamp so something is going on with him.

Stark seems to be pro-government and won't do much internationally without prior authorization, a change from normal.
 
I audibly shouted, "Oh no!" when Antony got shot.

Also, people talk about what the movie could have been with Wright still on board (I wonder as well, as a big Wright fan myself) but after reading what Wright and Cornish had and what was added later, I think people should wonder what the film could have been with Reed, McKay, and Rudd all given more time.

I have t read about the differences between the final and Wright versions of the film. Was a lot changed?
 
Something else I appreciated was the "Oh FUCK, this is an Avengers facility?!" reaction

In a lot of ways, the Avengers are too damn strong in the MCU. I'm excited to see Thanos finally break them.
 
I have t read about the differences between the final and Wright versions of the film. Was a lot changed?
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-07-17/ant-man-director-explains-the-differences-from-edgar-wright-version

There were quite a few (welcome) changes to the original drafts.

-Janet wasn't in the original drafts
-Hope's character arc was developed some as well as Pym's
-3rd act in Cassie's bedroom was Wright/Cornish's idea
-Quantum Realm was added by McKay/Reed
-Falcon meeting up was an idea by McKay and Rudd
-More heist stuff like breaking into the safe and the thumb scanner was added by McKay and Reed
-The tip montage by Luis was McKay/Reed
-Wright/Cornish started with the heist premise for the film and the Pym/Lang mentor/pupil relationship based on the comics

Here's another interview going into a little more detail on some of the same points
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/ant-man/news/?a=122953

We might not know what didn't make the cut from the original draft, but it seems a lot of what is in the movie now that really works, Reed/McKay/Rudd had hands in developing.
 
Something else I appreciated was the "Oh FUCK, this is an Avengers facility?!" reaction

In a lot of ways, the Avengers are too damn strong in the MCU. I'm excited to see Thanos finally break them.

I still find it hard to swallow the fact the entire Avengers facility can be infiltrated by Ant-Man so easily. Its only his what, first or second mission here.
 
I still find it hard to swallow the fact the entire Avengers facility can be infiltrated by Ant-Man so easily. Its only his what, first or second mission here.

It was a storage site iirc, not the same exact facility we saw at the end of AoU. Too small and no hanger.
 
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-07-17/ant-man-director-explains-the-differences-from-edgar-wright-version

There were quite a few (welcome) changes to the original drafts.

-Janet wasn't in the original drafts
-Hope's character arc was developed some as well as Pym's
-3rd act in Cassie's bedroom was Wright/Cornish's idea
-Quantum Realm was added by McKay/Reed
-Falcon meeting up was an idea by McKay and Rudd
-More heist stuff like breaking into the safe and the thumb scanner was added by McKay and Reed
-The tip montage by Luis was McKay/Reed
-Wright/Cornish started with the heist premise for the film and the Pym/Lang mentor/pupil relationship based on the comics

Here's another interview going into a little more detail on some of the same points
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/ant-man/news/?a=122953

We might not know what didn't make the cut from the original draft, but it seems a lot of what is in the movie now that really works, Reed/McKay/Rudd had hands in developing.

So some good and some bad. Sounds fairly normal. The Cassie bedroom stuff was obviously Wright's ideas although again I'm wondering if he storyboarded that fight.

I do wonder if the original was leaner or if the 'big' break-in at Pym Tech was longer/more elaborate.
 
Man I was really surprised how much I liked this movie Rudd and Pena were very likable characters and I felt bad for Antony when he got shot. It's up there with Guardians.
 
The Wasp flashback scene is very disappointing in design because it's literally Ant-Man w/ Boob Armor. The prototype Wasp suit in the mid-credits scene looks pretty ace though. Lots of potential!

Because the old suit was literally that, plus some wings. I get the feeling it was more just a duplicate of the ant-man tech, with the new suit to be a built for the wasp one.
 
That was pretty enjoyable, better then Age of Ultron, probably my 3rd favorite Marvel movie after Guardians and Winter Soldier. This has probably been asked 1,000 times but was there a scene after the one with Hope becoming Wasp in the credits? Had to piss super bad


Also kind of surprised they are bringing back Hydra again.
 
It was a storage site iirc, not the same exact facility we saw at the end of AoU. Too small and no hanger.

Pretty sure it was the same facility. The 'old Stark storage unit' was located in upstate New York, same as the New Avenger's Facility.

Falcon was just the only one home.
 
So some good and some bad. Sounds fairly normal. The Cassie bedroom stuff was obviously Wright's ideas although again I'm wondering if he storyboarded that fight.

I do wonder if the original was leaner or if the 'big' break-in at Pym Tech was longer/more elaborate.

Marvel has a whole team of storyboarders doing all the action for all their films, so I think most of it would have been in some complete state by the time Reed came onboard, but Wright probably didn't storyboard them himself. Maybe he supervised them though. I'm sure there were tons of revisions after Reed joined too.

That was pretty enjoyable, better then Age of Ultron, probably my 3rd favorite Marvel movie after Guardians and Winter Soldier. This has probably been asked 1,000 times but was there a scene after the one with Hope becoming Wasp in the credits? Had to piss super bad

Yes there's a scene at the very end, but if you missed it you'll see it again next year, it's a short clip cut out of Civil War.

Also kind of surprised they are bringing back Hydra again.

Interestingly enough, it looks like at least one of those guys was actually supposed to be a Ten Rings buyer. Unless they officially work for Hydra now.
 
Saw this tonight and had a blast. So many great moments.

I saw the mid credits scene, but didn't realize there was a second and totally missed it.
 
That was pretty enjoyable, better then Age of Ultron. This has probably been asked 1,000 times but was there a scene after the one with Hope becoming Wasp in the credits? Had to piss super bad


Also kind of surprised they are bringing back Hydra again.

Yes. there is another short scene lifted from the upcoming Civil war movie

Hydra was already established to be resurrected at the last episode of Agents of Shield Season 2 (which aired after Age of Ultron)
 
http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2015-07-17/ant-man-director-explains-the-differences-from-edgar-wright-version

There were quite a few (welcome) changes to the original drafts.

-Janet wasn't in the original drafts
-Hope's character arc was developed some as well as Pym's
-3rd act in Cassie's bedroom was Wright/Cornish's idea
-Quantum Realm was added by McKay/Reed
-Falcon meeting up was an idea by McKay and Rudd
-More heist stuff like breaking into the safe and the thumb scanner was added by McKay and Reed
-The tip montage by Luis was McKay/Reed
-Wright/Cornish started with the heist premise for the film and the Pym/Lang mentor/pupil relationship based on the comics

Here's another interview going into a little more detail on some of the same points
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/ant-man/news/?a=122953

We might not know what didn't make the cut from the original draft, but it seems a lot of what is in the movie now that really works, Reed/McKay/Rudd had hands in developing.

Great stuff, I can't really complain about anything they added. Most if not all of it worked pretty well for me.
 
Marvel has a whole team of storyboarders doing all the action for all their films, so I think most of it would have been in some complete state by the time Reed came onboard, but Wright probably didn't storyboard them himself. Maybe he supervised them though. I'm sure there were tons of revisions after Reed joined too.

Yea it's just that some of the fights were edited and staged better like the 'Trial by Water' and the Cassie bedroom fight compared to stuff like the action initially inside the Yellowjacket safe room. With how insanely long this film was in preproduction, I imagine Wright had a big influence on some of the storyboarding.
 
That was pretty enjoyable, better then Age of Ultron, probably my 3rd favorite Marvel movie after Guardians and Winter Soldier. This has probably been asked 1,000 times but was there a scene after the one with Hope becoming Wasp in the credits? Had to piss super bad


Also kind of surprised they are bringing back Hydra again.

Hydra never left. It's been crippled by the Agents of Shield crew, and the avengers, but it's still a thing at the time of the ant-man film.
 
I thought Darren Cross liquefying a dude and then literally flushing him down the toilet was some seriously dark shit.
 
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