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[SictorVullivan]

So do we get to see Solid Snake as a kid or only Liquid?
Is he appearing only on dialogue, just his name or he himsellf too?

Just Liquid I think.

 

[thabtoUK]

[C=16]The day the research facility holding Volgin burned down,
a Soviet jumbo passenger jet happened to crash nearby.$[C=16]Far away to the north of that hospital in Cyprus.$[C=16]On board the plane was a young boy who
was being studied at the same facility.$[C=16]The plane fell to earth from over 8,000 feet,
but the boy's body was the only one not recovered.$[C=16]At almost exactly the same time as the crash,
Volgin awoke in that facility.$[C=16]According to the research institute's documents, the gifts
this boy demonstrated included psychokinesis and telepathy...$[C=16]To protect his mind from being inundated with other
people's thoughts, he always wore a kind of gas mask.$A rudimentary form of psychic insulation, apparently.$[C=16]We don't know where this boy is, but if Skull Face is
connected to him, we may cross paths with him yet.$[C=16]This boy is part of a new age, where nothing we
understand about the world makes sense anymore.$[C=16]Don't let your guard down.

Pretty interesting ;-)

 

[Sub_Level]

Makes you wonder if Skullface and Mantis are related.

 

[ponpo]

[C=20]There were eight candidates before you.$[C=20]Meaning, you will be the ninth Paz Ortega Andrade.$


K...

 

[thabtoUK]

So do we get to see Solid Snake as a kid or only Liquid?
Is he appearing only on dialogue, just his name or he himsellf too?

[C=16]David has never left the States.$[C=16]

Only reference to David I can find ;-)

The only other David mentioned is "David Oh", Zero's real name

 

[MouldyK]

Spainkiller
the man who sold the world

How do we know Spainkiller ain't the Real Big Boss?!

Kojima knew we would come searching for info, so he put the answer right inside this thread!

part of a new age, where nothing we understand about the world makes sense anymore.

A great Plot Summary.

 

[Forkball]

I wanna know how Mantis went from some godlike being to a Voldemort-faced dude that made jokes about Castlevania.

 

[MouldyK]

I wanna know how Mantis went from some godlike being to a Voldemort-faced dude that made jokes about Castlevania.

Wiki:

However, during one interrogation in the year 2000, Mantis dove too deeply into the mind of a serial killer and subsequently adopted the subject's personality, becoming psychotic.

 

[Sub_Level]

I just think its crazy we got a plot that is more bizarre than MGS4 and Peace Walker combined.

 

[Sigismundo]

Well, I guess BB betraying Kaz and Venom the way he did is how people are gonna hate BB.

 

[ponpo]

Well, I guess BB betraying Kaz and Venom the way he did is how people are gonna hate BB.

I dunno, Kaz always sounds angry and annoys you with transmissions all the time. People will just end up hating Kaz :v

 

[squadr0n]

I love how Kojima is able to make things fit perfectly and workout in the end. That being said I still don't like the fact that we aren't playing the real Big Boss. It's an amazing story but to end the series this way, with by far the best of the series gameplay wise. It does kinda make you think that maybe MGS3 and PW are just the medic reliving Big Bosses memories as us, the player. Like how MGS1 is Raiden doing the S3 simulation.

Where is this text coming from btw?

 

[SyberWolf]

what are the requirements to get the solid snake outfit?

 

[thabtoUK]

Should I tweet the link to the date file to Ken, just for shits and giggles? ;-)

 

[Iceternal]

I just think its crazy we got a plot that is more bizarre than MGS4 and Peace Walker combined.

I just think it's crazy that pretty much none of the reviews mentioned that...

Some even said the plot was unsurprising, unconclusive...

Makes me question the integrity of many reviewers

 

[thabtoUK]

QAnother hot and humid Cuba day.
Yeah, can't wait to grab a shower.
vThis humidity, $every day, you know?
Hey, at least there's a breeze once in a while.
nThose new guys - you see their choppers? $Who are they with?
KBeats me, man. Green Berets... SEALs?
Those ain't no jarhead birds, I can tell you that. $Some paramilitary setup?
Well, some of the guys were saying... $You know what? $Best we just drop this, all right?
vUh, sure.

Dialogue from Ground Zeroes is in the data file too, not sure what that means though :-/

 

[co1onel]

I just think it's crazy that pretty much none of the reviews mentioned that...

Some even said the plot was unsurprising, unconclusive...

Makes me question the integrity of many reviewers

Lots of people suspected that we weren't playing as the real big boss. I don't think it's very surprising to be honest.

 

[DarkLordMalik]

Welp. So much for all the naysayers in this thread denying that Medic was not the Big Boss.

I should say that playing the prologue after reading the twist, it was pretty obvious we weren't playing as the Big Boss.

 

[thabtoUK]

Here's my guess at the 3rd ending, please note that though that this is just speculation on my part and doesn't come from my source.

I think that that when you import your Ground Zeroes save to the The Phantom Pain, it also works the other way round and will also import you avatar creation from The Phantom Pain back into Ground Zeroes. The Medic in Ground Zeroes and The Phantom Pain's flashback sequences will then look the same as the avatar you create in The Phantom Pain's hospital sequence.

I could be completely wrong, but it just seems a bit odd that if you create a black avatar in The Phantom Pain, that the Medic would still be white in Ground Zeroes. Also, keep in mind that the save transfer feature is currently blocked because of "online connectivity" that will lift on 1st September and that it's been said that ending is a "huge 4th wall break".

 

[vano89]

Great!!

 

[thabtoUK]

Great!!

Where? ;-)

 

[saher]

Goddamn mission 6 !!! im so glad i didnt watch anything after mission 5.

 

[vano89]

Where? ;-)

I got it from a retailer here in Italy!

 

[--R]

Ending of the game ? Care to explain ?

Nah, ending of the first Metal Gear battle. He ran away, the MG didn't even tried to pursue him and a burst of the minigun destroyed him.

 

[Yabberwocky]

Ah, so Medic Snake it is! (Venom is going to look so fine in that Eva outfit. Give me all the outfits.)

Poor, poor Kaz has had a terrible decade. You need a better mancrush/BFF, bro. I guess Ocelot won the love-triangle?

 

[Jackpot]

Is there any archive of that Hitbox stream?

 

[ponpo]

Skullface killed Stalin? Alright.

 

[YoRHa No.2 Type B]

zawa

So, does that mean everything under PlayerType are the people we can play as?
SNAKE - is Venom Snake
DD_MALE - Male Diamond Dogs soldier
DD_FEMALE - Female Diamond Dogs soldier
LIQUID - We get to play as Eli?
If we get to play as Eli, does that mean it is still possible that we can use the Metal Gear on the field since only a child can operate it?

PlayerType
SNAKE
DD_MALE
DD_FEMALE
LIQUID
AVATAR

PlayerCamoType should be self explanatory

PlayerCamoType
OLIVEDRAB
SPLITTER
SQUARE
TIGERSTRIPE
GOLDTIGER
FOXTROT
WOODLAND
WETWORK
ARBANGRAY
ARBANBLUE
SANDSTORM
REALTREE
INVISIBLE
BLACK
SNEAKING_SUIT_GZ
SNEAKING_SUIT_TPP
BATTLEDRESS
PARASITE
NAKED
LEATHER
SOLIDSNAKE
NINJA
RAIDEN
HOSPITAL
GOLD
SILVER
PANTHER

Everything under AVATAR_EDIT_MAN seems to be for only customization only.

AVATAR_EDIT_MAN
MGS3
MGS3_NAKED
MGS3_SNEAKING
MGS3_TUXEDO
EVA_CLOSE
EVA_OPEN
BOSS_CLOSE
BOSS_OPEN

No idea.

PlayerPartsType
NORMAL_SCARF
SNEAKING_SUIT
MGS1

All of that would be DLC:

WEAPON_ADAM_SKA_SP
WEAPON_WU_S333_CB_SP
WEAPON_MACHT_P5_WEISS
WEAPON_RASP_SB_SG_GOLD
WEAPON_PB_SHIELD_SIL
WEAPON_PB_SHIELD_OD
WEAPON_PB_SHIELD_WHT
WEAPON_PB_SHIELD_GLD
ITEM_CBOX_APD
ITEM_CBOX_RT
ITEM_CBOX_WET
ARM_GOLD
SUIT_FATIGUES_APD
SUIT_FATIGUES_GRAY_URBAN
SUIT_FATIGUES_BLUE_URBAN
SUIT_FATIGUES_BLACK_OCELOT
STAFF_STAFF1_FOX
STAFF_STAFF2_MSF
STAFF_STAFF3_DD
STAFF_STAFF4_FOX_HOUND
EMBLEM_FRONT_VENOM_SNAKE
SUIT_MGS3_NORMAL
SUIT_MGS3_NAKED
SUIT_MGS3_SNEAK
SUIT_MGS3_TUXEDO
SUIT_EVA
SUIT_THE_BOSS
HORSE_PARADE
HORSE_WESTERN
HORSE_RAGE_CONE

 

[SomedayTheFire]

My point wasn't to "ignore" Quiet. My point was that whining about her isn't going to do jack shit, and many, MANY people have done so already. She's a stupid character - I agree. Why make it the sole reason to dislike the game?

Again, I know what your point was. I never whined, I simply said she is giving me reservations about buying the game. You are free to dredge up some old posts where I may have whined about it, I will take responsibility yes, but that post you originally replied to was simply a personal opinion turned into a forum post. It just turns me off the game knowing it's in there. I could ignore her and never go and get her after the boss fight which is probably what I will do. Thankfully she is optional

And most here don't care. Just saying.

Cool. All I posted was that it'd giving me reservations, but people are replying to me, including you. Obviously they do care if they feel the need to reply to my post.

 

[--R]

Skullface killed Stalin? Alright.

Wait, what?

 

[SictorVullivan]

Skullface killed Stalin? Alright.

I really believe now that Kojima wrote the game in the way he has in order to royally screw up the chances of Konami ever making another MGS game without him, and this just makes it even more obvious.

 

[Ether_Snake]

Mantis, Liquid, Ocelot, Miller, and BB are all supposed to go back and work for the US.

Edit: yeah, BB is not the real BB because Kojima is not going to be in charge of MG anymore, only a phantom will. Ugh.

 

[SictorVullivan]

Mantis, Liquid, Ocelot, Miller, and BB are all supposed to go back and work for the US.

Edit: yeah, BB is not the real BB because Kojima is not going to be in charge of MG anymore, only a phantom will. Ugh.

Oh wow so...

Kojima = Big Boss?

Konami = Big Boss' Phantom?

 

[vano89]

Question for people already playing: have you redeem the DLCs? Do they work?

 

[ponpo]

Wait, what?

Skull Face.
Real name, unknown.
Born in Hungary.
More specifically, northern Transylvania after it reverted to Hungary from Romania.
While he was young, the country allied with Germany as part of the Axis powers, but later during the war it came under Soviet occupation.
The Hungarians struggled for independence, but the Soviets came down - hard.
Just like he said, time and again the country was ruled by a foreign tongue.
When he was a young boy, he lost his native language.
The bedrock for any developing child.
His country, his family, his face, his identity - everything was stolen from him.
All he had left was his skull.
Skull Face first tried his hand at espionage during all the chaos from the war.
Agents, military officials, and soldiers who operated out of Hungary during the war vanished over the course of several months.
This Soviet spy hunt rocked the counter-intel world.
Mysterious fatal illnesses, accidental deaths, drownings...
People having strokes behind closed doors - just like Stalin.
No one knew who was behind it.
But all you need to do was look for who had the motive.
They were all taken out by a man without a face.
And now we've got an idea of how he did it, too.
He'd gotten revenge for his people.
But he wasn't finished.

So, maybe ~

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

So haven't seen this asked,
We can go crazy customizing our MB/FOBs but can we customize the troops stationed there?
Just for example have the base all black but have all guards wearing red BDUs.

 

[Iceternal]

Lots of people suspected that we weren't playing as the real big boss. I don't think it's very surprising to be honest.

Yeah but some reviews made it sound like there wasn't any twist or surprise in the story.

So I guess they stopped at chapter1...

 

[Hideous Snake]

Enjoy brother!

Thanks a lot! Its the game of the generation! Such a masterpiece!

Hope you get it soon!

 

[DevilFox]

So.. confirmed. I need some drinks to drown my sadness into alcohol.

After playing this game for a while, I can finally confirm... Chico is Quiet.

And with Quiet, I mean

Spoiler

he's dead, at least according to this tape I just listened to.

Good. Useless character out of the way, thanks.

 

[thabtoUK]

Just like old times...
YThis must be...!
IYes!
This brings back some memories!
Liquiiiiiiiiid!
Is this nostalgic?
Not very nostalgic.
tI can't remember.
I don't want to remember this.
Kept you waiting, huh?
Kept you waiting, huh?
{This is bad...
This is Snake. Can you hear me?
A surveillance camera...

So, that's also in the subtitle rip file as well ;-)

 

[JKTrix]

Searching through the text file for some specific dialogue. If anyone wants to create a full 'Cipher' of the characters in the game, here's a start:

C=27 = Paz
C=20 = Zero/Cipher
C=37 = Skull Face

 

[Piku_Ringo]

Well, this certainly doesn't sound good at all.

Spoiler

A couple of guys on the MGS forum have completed the game, and are saying it true that we play as a body double... with no background. Just that he was the Medic on the helicopter in Ground Zeroes.

 

[SictorVullivan]

I can understand playing as a body double up to the point where Big Boss and Medic have the same voice actor before any of the body double stuff even happens.

If he had the same voice after the surgery then yeah sure it's okay but before....so stupid.

 

[co1onel]

Well, this certainly doesn't sound good at all.

Spoiler

A couple of guys on the MGS forum have completed the game, and are saying it true that we play as a body double... with no background. Just that he was the Medic on the helicopter in Ground Zeroes.

No need to spoilertag in a spoiler thread...

I think the character purposefully has no background, because the character is supposed to represent us, the player. This could explain why we create an avatar at the beginning, only to have plastic surgery done right after. If you don't have it spoiled for you, then you assume you are big boss, just like venom assumes he is.

 

[.....]

UK, Simply Games has come to.

 

[JKTrix]

$[C=20]One more thing - a proposition.$[C=16]Yes?$[C=20]I've prepared a ruse of sorts.
One I imagine you'll quite like.$[C=16]What is it?$[C=20]You could say $I've... made another Snake.$[C=16] Major...$[C=20]I'm not talking about the children.$A mental copy. $His phantom, if you like.$[C=16]I don't understand.$[C=20]You will when you get to Cyprus.$[C=20]I've set the ball in motion,
but the rest is in your hands.$[C=20]You're good at this kind of thing - the best.
I need you on this.$[C=16]If it's in his best interests... $[C=20]I assure you... $[C=20]It is.$[C=16] $[C=20]Look after Snake.$[C=20]He's the toughest son of a bitch I've ever known.

C=16 = Ocelot

 

[Mendrox]

Got my game too \o/

Will post hitbox stream later guys

 

[News Bot]

I love how Kojima is able to make things fit perfectly and workout in the end. That being said I still don't like the fact that we aren't playing the real Big Boss. It's an amazing story but to end the series this way, with by far the best of the series gameplay wise. It does kinda make you think that maybe MGS3 and PW are just the medic reliving Big Bosses memories as us, the player. Like how MGS1 is Raiden doing the S3 simulation.

Very few things Kojima has written fit perfectly or work out. His writing is extremely forced and contrived after MGS3. He relies on retroactive continuity and his "explanations" rarely make sense. In MGS4 he used nanomachines as a catch-all cop-out and in MGSV he's using parasites. Their multi-purpose nature is complete nonsense.

MGS1 is MGS1. Raiden is also meant to have undergone the Shadow Moses and Tanker missions in VR but it's noted by both the Colonel AI and Solid Snake himself that the simulations were inaccurate. The player is meant to doubt their experiences as a result, just as they're driven to doubt the actual on-going events of the Big Shell, but in truth what you see is what you the player get, you're viewing the true events.

So "the best man we had" happened to not only be a near-twin of Big Boss... but was a field medic? Hahahahahaha.

 

[Mifec]

Thanks a lot! Its the game of the generation! Such a masterpiece!

Hope you get it soon!

Well Konami decided that people who are playing on PC get it at 7pm on the 1st in Europe...no preload either. So yeah won't play it before like 2am or so on the 2nd...

 

[--R]

Well Konami decided that people who are playing on PC get it at 7pm on the 1st in Europe...no preload either. So yeah won't play it before like 2am or so on the 2nd...

Wasn't the game available in Europe as soon as it was the 1st on New Zealand?