Death Metalist
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Golden days.
SPOILER: Spoiler Metal Gear Solid V (TPS) Spoiler Thread (Contains Spoilers, Thanos).
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Golden days.
The Silver
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Still can't believe this was a thing.Well...
You need to remember that some people seem to have a fairly loose grip on reality.
Roufianos
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I'm gonna be honest, I still hate the twist, but Venom might be one of my favorite Metal Gear characters simply because he isn't an asshat. I hate him because he's not really BB, but I love him because he says really nice things to his friends like "you're all diamonds".
What a sweetheart.
Is Kojima even aware of the character he created? In what way is V an "Ogre" or "Demon"? You're right the guy's a big soft teddy bear.
Torturing scum like Huey and killing your men to prevent an epidemic aren't examples of evil deeds.
Garrett Hawke
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SictorVullivan
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Well...
You need to remember that some people seem to have a fairly loose grip on reality.
What the hell is this implying?
crazyrabbits
Banned
Yeah, I don't get it either.
The Hero/Demon system is so half-baked too. You get Heroism points for virtually everything you do in terms of missions or Side-Ops. Unless you're going around wantonly killing prisoners (which would be pointless, considering you need them to develop upgrades and weapons/items), being evil is pointless. Complete a Mission? Heroism. Rescue someone? Heroism. Clean out an outpost? You still get Heroism. You can't really become a Demon until the very end of the game (develop lots of nukes), and that seems to be for shits and giggles more than anything else.
And I still don't understand why he's "Venom", considering he's either being incredibly selfless/remorseful or he's being played by others.
That's the problem. The game doesn't support your narrative.
Huey is suspected of being the one who called Cipher in on Mother Base in the first place, and (as we later find out) he left his wife to die in an AI pod, tried to turn his son into a weapon and attempted to cause another outbreak. By all rights, he should have been executed for his crimes, but he still gets mercy from Venom. Same goes for Mission 43 - Venom is incredibly remorseful about having to kill his own men (just like the player, if they know who these soldiers are), and they salute him, knowing what he has to do. He nearly has a breakdown afterwards because of what he's done.
TyrantGuardian
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Uh... yes they are. Lol. Or rather, they raise the idea of how any sort of action can be justified and appear righteous if you want it to, which is exactly what Miller and Venom (well, considering how little dialogue he has...) keep doing throughout this game.
Death Metalist
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Back in the day, people were having a debate if this was done in Fox Engine or if it was real.
Big boss was just a guy trying to get a metal gear.
Its not like he was out to destroy the world
Akiyama_AE
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So I forgot how to access the battle gear menu...
MrS
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It was so bad, wasn't it? The sound mix on Skull Face's voice sounded messed up/badly done to me. Without question the most disappointing cutscene in the game imo
Shanks D Zoro
Banned
So what is the explanation for seeing BB get mowed down in the hospital hallway, but then reappears in the next room?
Is it meant to just be another patient who is wearing the exact same robe and with head and right hand bandages?
Is it meant to just be another patient who is wearing the exact same robe and with head and right hand bandages?
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
That bandana really sells the similarity. Compared to say, a black or asian guy getting face surgery=completely different skin tone and hair growth.Edit: I think it helps that the avatar I created looks really plausible to be a possible double for BB. When I saw the cutscenes with the medic I saw this guy, sans bandana obviously:
Looks like a guy who idolizes Boss to me, as well as similar enough where plastic surgery could be very plausible. Maybe that contributes to why the twist didn't feel too jarring to me, at least in some senses.
Stallion Dan
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I started seeing them after 200k.
Actually yeah. You can actually see him cut off out of the hallway, and the camera focuses on someone who isn't actually him.
IMACOMPUTA
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This game story-wise basically did nothing I wanted it to do.
What a bummer.
Also, I think the impact of medic guy was dampened by my avatar:
What a bummer.
Also, I think the impact of medic guy was dampened by my avatar:
Berserker976
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So... does anyone know why chapter 2 was called "Race"?
All I can think of is that they called it that because they were clearly racing to finish it so they could ship it on time.
All I can think of is that they called it that because they were clearly racing to finish it so they could ship it on time.
Shanks D Zoro
Banned
really? i didn't realise that.
I was wondering this too.
I remember it being said before that the game was going to deal with race.
All I took out of it was that anglo-saxons are bad.
swearing-circle
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They even zoom in on his butt to show that it ain't him.
SomedayTheFire
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It sounded edgy?
Really I think Kojima was going to do something pretty sketchy with regards to Africa and child soldiers and Konami lawyers said "you better not do that"
Shanks D Zoro
Banned
he has a different butt?
2lucky
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
Just managed to get an S Rank on a mission while using the Cyborg Ninja skin? Says it restricts you from getting them. Maybe only the first time?
giancarlo123x
Banned
Is this a thing? When the hell does that unlock? I s ranked deja vu and jaimes on hard.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
Fairly certain it unlocked when I did the GZ save transfer, but I had already completed the game by then, so I'm unsure specifically.
giancarlo123x
Banned
Weird. I got all the other bonuses including solid snake. I want the costume just to sprint fast as shit and do side ops with it.
crazyrabbits
Banned
It unlocks by obtaining one of the Master Certificate key items (which are given by completing the game) - it doesn't transfer over from GZ.
giancarlo123x
Banned
I beat the game and don't have that. Do I have to beat those optional extreme missions?
crazyrabbits
Banned
You probably do. Check your Key Items section.
From the guide:
Grand Master Certificate (Standard): Complete all missions (except those on a
high difficulty level) with an S-Rank. Can be used to develop the Raiden
uniform.
Master Certificate (Standard): Complete all main missions (except those on
high difficulty levels) with any rank. Can be used to develop the Cyborg Ninja
uniform.
People keep confusing this with GZ savefile transfer. It has nothing to do with it. You have to beat the game to unlock these uniforms.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
It's not even that fast. If you've upgraded your mobility, it's about the same.
Ah, my bad.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
In metal gear 2 Big Boss steals nukes from disposal sites and Zanzibar becomes the only nuclear power. He then invades places at will. Both him and Liquid wanted world conquest.
Propaganda spread by the Patriots!
It continues to grind on me.
I've never been so bothered by a game ending before. Usually I pass off bad endings as bad endings and forget about them 5 minutes later.
MGSV is.. hanging. It's a bad smell.
swearing-circle
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They zoom in and you don't see his butt crack. They even accompany it with a sound. Seriously.
onepiecefan
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Maybe what he meant is how capable and "badass" Quiet is.
If that's the case, though, he shouldn't have made her the pandering character that she is.
You can only really appreciate Venom if you look at what he gives rather than what he takes away. Yes, he robbed us of a true BB game and the stories it could have told, but there's something to appreciate there if you put that to the side.
I feel like Two Face when I think about the plot in this game. I love and hate it, and not just the different parts of it but the same exact parts of it.
Edit: I think it helps that the avatar I created looks really plausible to be a possible double for BB. When I saw the cutscenes with the medic I saw this guy, sans bandana obviously:
Looks like a guy who idolizes Boss to me, as well as similar enough where plastic surgery could be very plausible. Maybe that contributes to why the twist didn't feel too jarring to me, at least in some senses.
No joke my avatar looked identical to this.
MAX PAYMENT
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I didn't bother quarantining anyone. I knew the story would take care of it if I moved forward with it. That does sounds really cool. I hate that I missed it.
Garrett Hawke
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"GT Top 10 Metal Gear twists (No MGSV spoilers, but spoilers from every other game)"
As if V would be on the list anyway lmao
As if V would be on the list anyway lmao
Hahahaha, no love.
giancarlo123x
Banned
That scene with quiet lighting big bosses cigar was cut or someone got it?
Kuro Madoushi
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Diaherra of the mouth indeed.
Roufianos
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It's really hit me hard. I broke up with my girlfriend last week and MGSV kept me afloat for a while but then seeing that shit ending yesterday has really sent me to a low point.
We were promised so much but Kojima decided he'd rather the ego boost of trolling people than actually filling in the missing link.
The worst thing is that I actually love the gameplay but all I can think of while playing it now is that I'm not really Big Boss.
You get it on your birthday.
giancarlo123x
Banned
I guess no one is lighting my cigar on my birthday next month.
Moon_frogger
Member
I hate that the game teased a cure over the course of a couple of missions. It caused me to ignore everything and blast through the missions so I could progress the story past that part and stop losing soldiers. Ah well, what can you do. I still enjoyed the twist.
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