the Democratic party is shit though. it deserves to be shat on
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the Democratic party is shit though. it deserves to be shat on
brainchild
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I have the opposite impression. I understand that his speaking style probably comes off as charismatic to a lot of people, but it just makes him seem like a character from a movie set playing the role of 'president'. I feel the same way when Obama speaks.
I realize I'm in the minority, but politicians with presidential demeanor come across as less authentic to me, even if they're actually genuine in reality.
Yas queen.
Sure, the Republicans are worse, but let's face facts here: no party is presently "Based God" material.
Yeah, the "lifelong Democrat" boasting freaks me out. It's such a weird thing to pledge undying allegiance to.
ArkhamFantasy
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I like this forum better but i really wish they would control the crowd. He couldnt even finish his sentence several times because they kept clapping and cheering, at least let him finish.
Ziltoidia 9
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No one should ever be hardline to their party just to be hardline. That was the only response of his that I didn't like.
theshizzle
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Thanks! Didn't know about this. Tuning in now.
Nobody forced Bernie to run to be the leader of the Democratic party.
brainchild
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Now that's what I call spittin' truth.
Laevateinn
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This. From the 90s to recently, someone like Sanders wasn't welcome in the party and were relegated to joke status like Kucinich.
Are you for real? Do you not realize how binary our system has become?
If you are not a D or an R, you are DOA. Come the fuck on.
He's not in the party.
I'm totally aware. But it's not shocking to see that you get a lot of pushback from party you've shit on when you try to then run to lead them.
Yeah, he should have went with the Green Party and won that way right? I'm not a huge fan of Bernie, but at least he's pushing some issues on the party that they have been ignoring.
So people concern troll that his campaign, and the unlikely potential of an independent run in the general, could hand a Republican the White House... Then the same people shit on him for running as a Democrat. This makes sense.
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
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You have a two party system. If he wants to have the slightest chance, he doesn't really have any other choice than to choose the lesser of the two evils.
Not saying that the democrats are bad or whatever. I don't know enough about that stuff to pass a judgement.
RastaMentality
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They're not equally garbage. If you believe that, you haven't been following this primary season very closely.
He's not running to lead the democrats though. He's running for president. And for that position, you need to be allied with dems or republicans.
Well it's not like he is winning as Democrat either. His poll numbers have sunk far behind Hillary. Most democratic primary voters are old life long Democrats. Insulting the people who decide your fate...not wise.
False. He is asking the Democratic party to make him their nominee. By default you have to become the leader of the party if you ask them to let you do that.
TRUTH
This is part of the reason Bernie is doing so badly. He just doesn't understand how this works.
exmachina64
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The president is the de facto leader of their party; it has always been that way.
Exactly. He hasn't convinced the party and party voters that he actually gives two shits about it so why should the party throw its weight behind him.
He's a Johnny-come-lately who stayed out of the party rather than work within it to push his policies over the years and now all of a sudden wants to be known as some standard bearer. Sorry. If he wanted a realistic way to push far left progressive agendas than he should have spent years pushing the party in that direction from within at local and state levels rather than jumping in at the Presidential level and changing party affiliations because it suited him and presented his only realistic chance to get elected.
And people call Hillary two faced and opportunistic, he's worse. He wants to come in and bad mouth a party here spent no time trying to shape or change.
well then they better get ready to feel the bern (or get out)
Bernie has had years and years to join the party and actively try to push it to the left. He has refused.
Dat bern.
B-b-b-but what about the sanctity of the Democratic party??
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
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Party allegiance is one of the weirdest things to me and part of the reason why I have never voted. Part of me hopes Clinton gets the nomination and Sanders runs as an independent because of all this party BS garbage that I keep hearing being spitted out.
Veritigo_X
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You're asking for a republican to be elected president. That would be the reality of that situation.
Edit: Maybe you wouldn't care about that since you don't vote.
Who's talking about sanctity? Are Democrats perfect? No. Has Sanders actively worked to change the party over the years and make it better? No.
it's pretty disgusting imo that our political system is essentially a sporting match between two teams
RastaMentality
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Can't believe people still say this ridiculous shit. Splitting the vote is not a good idea in this important of an election.
SolarPowered
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I like that Bernie doesn't flip flop on Afghanistan and having to use the troops when necessary. Makes me wonder how people don't see Bernie as someone who'd use the military more effectively than Bush.
The party. Won't someone please think of the poor party?
Big Baybee
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Lol prez of cnn
Oooohhhh spooky
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