Because framerate may not weigh as heavily as other factors in the reviewers scores.
Framerate means little to me, for example, as long as it doesn't negatively affect gameplay.
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Because framerate may not weigh as heavily as other factors in the reviewers scores.
Framerate means little to me, for example, as long as it doesn't negatively affect gameplay.
old manatee
Banned
Pete Hines said it looked okey dokey artichokey.
You could read some of the review maybe? The framerate does not make or break the game.
Well yeah. You're right of course! I think I'm gonna wait a few days before asking around though, it's probably gonna take a while before people properly know what they think of it.
Reviewers meanwhile did have the chance to find that out already so that doesn't mean I won't be frustrated over this. Bethesda did a big revamp on their system, you'd think more'd at least mention something.
I am being somewhat pessimistic, but I'd love to be wrong. It's not strange to think that if reviewers find it works just fine they should say so is it? It's a big change from previous games either way.
enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
My predictions were correct, yet again. Fallout 4 was the only game left that could challenge it, but Metal Gear Solid 5 will remain the best reviewed game of the year.
Will pass on Fallout 4 for now and just wait for a bug-free GOTY Edition.
Will pass on Fallout 4 for now and just wait for a bug-free GOTY Edition.
Regular gamers (and a lot of reviewers) don't care about resolution or anti-aliasing either based on what sells and what reviews well. To others on GAF those are gamebreaking issues.
0 framerate and stuttering probably affect gameplay
Vault Dweller 111
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It's been holding at 90 (Ps4) for the past 15 or so reviews. Looks like it will settle somewhere around there. Maybe one or two points either direction.
I just had to see reviews to make sure my most anticipated game wasn't a complete disappointment. 14 hours to go!
I just had to see reviews to make sure my most anticipated game wasn't a complete disappointment. 14 hours to go!
Megabyte117
Member
Since Polygon didn't give it a 10, can we expect both an article asking us to "stop pretending Fallout's story matters" and that a Polygon writer "hasn't touched the game and Destiny is to blame"?
Enough to sour the experience in the specific instance? I guess not.
True. I've been on GAF for years and I'm still not sure what anti-aliasing even means.
GametimeUK
Member
Great scores for what looks like a great game. I'm still hoping MGS5 gets goty, but I'm not going to meltdown if it doesn't.
Ironically, this thread has more "good review excuses" then "bad review excuses". I really didn't expect that, lol.by komplanen:
Its the Kotaku scale of reviews.
Yeah, even the negative reviews are saying "Feels like Fallout 3 with not much changed" have me thinking it'll be competing with MGS for my personal top spot. Unless I get enough time to do Witcher 3 by the end of the year, Rocket League is going to be following them very close!
It's been holding at 90 (Ps4) for the past 15 or so reviews. Looks like it will settle somewhere around there. Maybe one or two points either direction.
I just had to see reviews to make sure my most anticipated game wasn't a complete disappointment. 14 hours to go!
Let's be completely honest, there was no chance that mainstream review outlets weren't going to heap praise on this game.
Vincent Grayson
Member
I guess for me, the ideal dialogue system is one that flows smoothly and is unintrusive to the point that conversations flow naturally, instead of the old school numbered list that often involves jumping to the same branches over and over to ask different questions. It has its place, but to me, not in a more cinematic and immersive game like Bethesda's titles. So if that's what it does, and it doesn't stick out, I can see it not coming up while writing a review.
Maybe not enough to ruin the whole experience? I really don't understand what some of you people want.
Magic Mushroom
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Hoping for Bloodborne myself, but I think Edge will be one of the few who gives it that accolade, it's their only ten this year after all.
In The Netherlands we have this saying "Wij van WC Eend...".I still can't really believe this.
Basically it means that you should never trust anything that is said about a product by the same company that made it. It seems like this is appropriate here.
Aceshighhhh
Member
Nice rebuttal. Would have made sense if you were replying to me, lmao.
Funny thing is, out of the two people already in that conversation you just entered, only one has been posting single sentence bait posts with impressive regularity and consistency.
Shit, I don't even hate him for it. He's... pretty good
Is this also supposed to be a rebuttal? I don't see much difference in posting quality from either users - both blindly defending their position. What's the point of this post?
Trojan
Member
For a game like this, frame rate is not that important to me as long as it's not a major distraction to gameplay. From the reviews, it sounds like it isn't for the most part on PS4. There is only a small portion of people who care about this in the grand scheme of things, and many of those people are on NeoGAF. For an GPS, it's a much bigger deal to me.
Nothing wrong with caring about frame rate, I think it's just not something that the majority of players will really care about or notice. I love GAF because its members really care about games, but don't mistake GAF as a representation of the larger gaming community.
Interfectum
Member
Haha tons of disappointment that the game isn't bad? You guys...
demosthenes
Member
Because a game can still be great with issues.
"Oh no, the framerate dropped a few times in a 100 hour game" 2/10, do not buy!
What's the point in any of your posts other than trying to rile someone up?
What' the point in any of these posts?
What's the point in this thread?
What's the point...
No soul in a Bethesda game, that's complete shit. More soul than most AAA games.
Eh, some people want a perfectly smooth framerate, nothing wrong with that. Not a lot of reviewers seem to be that exacting though.
InsaneTiger
Member
I agree with you, I don't care personally. I love me some "imperfect " games.
Usually I see Nintendo games receiving the 10s.
It's like this point is lost on a large swath of people. Opinions vary and always will. For the most part Bethesda's games often score high for the overall entirety of the game. Some people just don't give a shit that the framerate drops or that textures look muddy or that story is inconsistently told or any other numbers of issue. It's almost as if a game is the sum of it's whole parts as opposed to something that exists in specific instances of good or bad and therefore outright dismissed.
Here's the funny thing, I get why that doesn't work for some people and they dislike the end product. And I sure as shit don't bother them for disliking the game and shit on their opinion. Such a novel concept, I know.
I would actually argue that Metacritic is amazing with the user scores. Even if it's bombed by fake ratings it means that in that game something so bad happened, it infuriated people that much.
Dangansona
Member
Holy shit, maybe he just never saw them himself like he's saying?
I don't understand you people. I'm honestly never going to look in a fallout 4 thread again, because some of you are so desperate to tear down a game and find secret motivation for critics reviews that you will grasp onto anything you can. At least play the game first.
Anti-jaggies
InsaneTiger
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mmmmm, textures.....
Still loading?
down 2 orth
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Dammit, another awesome game to add to my cluttered 'to buy' list, not to mention that backlog...
GlamFM
Banned
Vault Dweller 111
Member
There was also very little chance I wouldn't love the game. Bethesda just had to do their thing. But you never know...
TheSlySoul
Member
Metacritic is an enigma.
I would not put high faith in 90 scores, you get things like GTA4.
However, this game will be fun. Will it live up to hype? Probably not. Don't hype games.
It doesnt make a lick of sense to me.
Not one bit. I dont get it.
Don't bother. Most people on GAF just like going "LOL user reviews" without thinking. Little do they know that user reviews are actually a valuable source of information.
maybe. was on screen for awhile and didn't seem to load in. I just think it's funny. When I play, in my head I just walk on by and go oh that looks shit, oh well on to the next thing. I look at things like this and stutters and stuff and find it quaint and just part of the experience of these games.Still fun to point out though.
plasmawave
Banned
So much for the worst game of the year.
(pretend it hit the bullseye)
Well, I called the score on the main platform (PC), at least thus far, so...
Almost as shit at Morrowind!
To be honest, as a PC gamer, I haven't had much issue with jaggies in over a decade. I will typically turn AA off or to a low setting like 2x, since I don't think it makes a ton of difference to me, and I would rather have a steady framerate (60FPS if possible, but definitely over 30) on my 2014 mid-range hardware.
From Metro...
"Cons: Technically unimpressive, especially in terms of character graphics and frustrating load times. Almost no new ideas. Dialogue and set pieces are often handled clumsily."
That's probably one of the worst things I've read about a AAA game this year and it still received an 8.
"Cons: Technically unimpressive, especially in terms of character graphics and frustrating load times. Almost no new ideas. Dialogue and set pieces are often handled clumsily."
That's probably one of the worst things I've read about a AAA game this year and it still received an 8.
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