lucebuce12
Member
This game is just flat out unplayable right now. Setting everything to low yet still getting freezes even with the new drivers. I'm just gonna wait for some patches.
This is so disappointing.
This is so disappointing.
Just Cause 3 PC performance thread
- Thread starter JaseC
- Start date
Avalanche Sweden > Avalanche New York?
dgrdsv
Member
3dfx's SFR was using stripes on VSA-100 as well so it's not that different from how today's SFR operations.
D3D12's SFR however is a different beast altogether as it may actually allow a videocard to work on something which is just a part of the final framebuffer composition - and I don't mean a part like a half or a stripe but more like a postprocessing filter or some intermediate calculations which is used by the second GPU to build the final frame. So this SFR is something new indeed.
Sounds really interesting but how high are the chances of that being supported ? Seems like a lot of work for too much of a niche.
Funnily enough I was always under the impression that it was the Swedish branch of Avalanche that worked on JC3 as opposed to the NY one. Oh well.
Maybe since Sweden got off of Mad Max earlier in the year, they might be able to assist NY with the optimization of JC3. They both got off of their projects at a fairly similar time frame so maybe they have enough post-work in them to co-ordinate some efforts.
Maybe since Sweden got off of Mad Max earlier in the year, they might be able to assist NY with the optimization of JC3. They both got off of their projects at a fairly similar time frame so maybe they have enough post-work in them to co-ordinate some efforts.
Qwell
Member
Well unfortunately my 7950 is just kind of limping along with the game, but at least its playable. Did a mild OC to 1025 and turned down a lot of options, but still playing it at 1080p with around 45fps with a fair amount of dipping and some stutter. It will work until I build my new rig in a few months and hopefully they release a few patches for the game. Still a lot of fun to play, the potential is definitely there.
Krappadizzle
Member
Sli in a nutshell.
So I assume you have run the game through a profiler? Care to share a flat profile with us? What would you consider the most "unoptimized" parts and how would you go about optimizing them?
Don't be coy now.
The extreme long intro load time for this game really puts me off playing the game. The series is not something I'm likely to spend a ton of time at once playing, it's a pick up and play for half an hour thing to me, and having to sit through that long intro really pulls the wind out of my sails.
Haven't had any freezing or stuttering yet, game is performing well for me so far (70fps+, but everything on max except AA, which I'm now going to put on max). Haven't read through the whole thread, but the game seems to use *a lot* of RAM. Are people's stutters related to that?
MarcoZombieCannon
Member
The fact that you still need to sit through a loading screen *after* sitting through whatever the hell that video is doing is extremely annoying.
My pair of 2GB 670s served me well, but multi-GPU support is such a hit-or-miss affair these days that I don't see myself going that route again unless things improve significantly.
First I've heard of this in the context of SFR, but in theory the mGPU modes of DX12 should allow some very unusual implementations. I wouldn't really consider this split frame rendering though, rather something like split workload rendering would be more accurate.
Probably the Havok middleware
Both games do not run on the same engine.
This has no SLI support? Sorry I'm not good with computers really but I'm assuming that means my 2 sli 970 are not being used? Only 1 is? Sorry if this is a stupid question , I recently just got into PC gaming and had someone build my rig so I'm still learning. Any insight is appreciated.
curlycare
Member
Pcgameshardware.de seem to have noticed the same. Interestingly it only affects Maxwell chips.
If you just recently got into PC gaming you should have listened to what I always repeat in the "I need a new PC" thread and not gone for a multi-GPU setup.
It's not really great for anyone IMHO (just the only option if you really think you need faster-than-fastest-single-GPU performance), and it's a particularly bad idea for newcomers to the platform. PC gaming is really simple and accommodating, these days, but multi-GPU compatibility often isn't.
In any way, what it means is that (at this point) the game will only use one of your two GPUs.
Unfortunately, that's what I thought it meant. I'm also fairly new to Gaf as well. The guy who built my PC suggested it. Damn, really wish I would of known this. Spent a good amount of money on my rig. Thanks for the reply.
IIRC, Triple Buffering(in the control panel) is only for OpenGL games.
As far as I know, your only real solutions would be adaptive vsync, playing Windowed or forcing borderless fullscreen through another application.
Welp, looks like I'll be waiting for the inevitable $5 Steam sale in a couple years. That's pretty damn lame considering how amazing the SLI/Crossfire support was in JC2.
In this type of situation, I like to have my console (separate tv/monitor) running something in the background to play around with, while things load. I'm a very impatient person.
Sorry how could be considered well optimized? This game struggle in rig where other games with the same setting offer a quite more stable fps. I have mind The Witcher 3 or the same Mad Max. I suspect there are tons of havok stuff avoidable, completely useless there. I take for example the ps4 version. When there are many explosion on the screen, it slowdown like to 10 fps for a very long time. Unfortunately I'm unable to link it from my phone. That's absurd see such stuff.
Krappadizzle
Member
I love the idea of SLI, but after having 460's SLI'd for a few years, I came to the conclusion that it just wasn't worth it. It's a crapshoot if a game will support it and it sucks when a game you want to play with a higher fidelity doesn't. I've since switched to whatever the best single card I can afford to at the time.
It means only one of your GPU will run the game.
ambar_hitman
Member
Runs nicely. But constant 30 fps, doesn't seem to go above that, I guess vsync is dropping to 30 fps if I get below 60 fps. All high-very high settings, shadows to medium, Bokeh off, no AA and 1080p.
PC Specs:
AMD Phenom II 1055T
MSI R9 280 GAMING 3 GB DDR5 (latest AMD Beta driver)
Corsair 8 GB 1600 Mhz
PC Specs:
AMD Phenom II 1055T
MSI R9 280 GAMING 3 GB DDR5 (latest AMD Beta driver)
Corsair 8 GB 1600 Mhz
There is no logical connection between different games' settings. Does not mean Just Cause 3 is "unoptimized".
10fps is hyperbole, it drops below 30fps sure.
There are definitely render issues (flickering, texture corruptions, various bugs) that need to be addressed but performance wise I would not make outrageous claims.
For the record the possibility of performance improvements does not necessarily equate to X game being "unoptimized", most definitely one of the most overused term on gaming boards.
If we were to trust random forumers be them PC or console gamers then we would get the picture that AAA developpers working on technologically rich games crudely lack competence and that the hardware is never the culprit.
Sorry, I have a very hard time buying that.
I don't. I don't consider it "well optimized" or "badly optimized" or anything in between. I simply don't have the information to make any informed judgement on that matter, and I doubt anyone else in this thread has.
Just because a game doesn't perform well on today's hardware doesn't mean it's unoptimized...
Consoles have shitty APUs.
No one has any insight into what is taxing the hardware so much.
bee
Member
wow seems like many people got serious performance issues with the game, unlucky 
runs great for me personally, 3570k, 16gb, titan x, gsync, 359.00 drivers (screw updating) running 4k max settings except, aniso@16xhqaf in driver with edge fade, motion blur and ssr all disabled and aa down to smaa
no hitches, no long loads after deaths, usually around 50fps and very very rarely drops under 40fps, explosions don't seem to drop the fps too much (not experienced the biggest explosions yet though) only issue i have is the initial load is quite long
great game, really enjoying the wing suit, new rico sucks though
runs great for me personally, 3570k, 16gb, titan x, gsync, 359.00 drivers (screw updating) running 4k max settings except, aniso@16xhqaf in driver with edge fade, motion blur and ssr all disabled and aa down to smaa
no hitches, no long loads after deaths, usually around 50fps and very very rarely drops under 40fps, explosions don't seem to drop the fps too much (not experienced the biggest explosions yet though) only issue i have is the initial load is quite long
great game, really enjoying the wing suit, new rico sucks though
Alt tabbing did not work. Only game it works with is GTA V for some reason. Thanks either way!
Okay. I'll try the adaptive V-sync when I get back to this game. Hope they patch in triple buffering by that time.
I'm still balls deep into Fallout 4, so I'll just keep on trucking in that game. Thanks to you too!
3570k @4.3, MSI 970 4GB, 8 gigs of RAM, Win10.
Playing on very high except:
Bokeh off
FXAA
Motion blur off
Vsync off (adaptive in nVidia control panel trend on)
Since I can't get MSI Afterburner's OSD to show up in this game for the life of mine (steam overlay is off, no other stuff like that running in the background, played around with viewport/framebuffer OSD and still nothing) I can't tell for sure, but it seems that the game is running very smoothly. 60 fps almost all the time, exceptions where I notice the drops are:
Gas station explosions viewed from up close (drops to around 45 for a sec or two)
Discovering a new city/base (slight hiccup)
A LOT of explosions going around. I'm talking about 3-4 exploding tanks at once.
Running the newest drivers.
It's possible that having Afterburner turned off makes me not notice frame drops, but I do not see any screen tearing at all except during the mentioned moments, so to me that's satisfactory, and I'm really sensitive to tearing.
I hope there is an nVidia or another guide in the works showing differences in the different settings, so that I know what to reduce next to get locked 60.
Some technical hiccups aside, I'm having a blast with this game.
If I get more serious frame drops I'll just set everything to max with some downsampling and lock to 30. I'm enjoying myself way too much to care about such minor (IMO) issues.
Playing on very high except:
Bokeh off
FXAA
Motion blur off
Vsync off (adaptive in nVidia control panel trend on)
Since I can't get MSI Afterburner's OSD to show up in this game for the life of mine (steam overlay is off, no other stuff like that running in the background, played around with viewport/framebuffer OSD and still nothing) I can't tell for sure, but it seems that the game is running very smoothly. 60 fps almost all the time, exceptions where I notice the drops are:
Gas station explosions viewed from up close (drops to around 45 for a sec or two)
Discovering a new city/base (slight hiccup)
A LOT of explosions going around. I'm talking about 3-4 exploding tanks at once.
Running the newest drivers.
It's possible that having Afterburner turned off makes me not notice frame drops, but I do not see any screen tearing at all except during the mentioned moments, so to me that's satisfactory, and I'm really sensitive to tearing.
I hope there is an nVidia or another guide in the works showing differences in the different settings, so that I know what to reduce next to get locked 60.
Some technical hiccups aside, I'm having a blast with this game.
If I get more serious frame drops I'll just set everything to max with some downsampling and lock to 30. I'm enjoying myself way too much to care about such minor (IMO) issues.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Yep. It's not much better on SSD. Granted a lot of the time seems to be dedicated to the online login /intro stuff so it I'm not sure if it even helps. After the login the actual loading screens didn't seem to be that much different speed wise from when I had it on HDD.
I don't me too. But I suppose unstable fps it's a good indicator. I'm not a great fan of expensive tech if the price it's the fps smoothness.
But nothing ever is free in the field of real-time graphics. There will always be a "price" and performance can be lower if more effects come into play, that's only to be expected.
By the same token I do not see how "unstable" framerate is a sign of unoptimized code. Visuals do come at a cost you know that.
Hip Hop
Member
Didn't try to run it unlocked, just went straigt to locking it to 30FPS with the Riva Tuner. It stays there for the most part, but it does dip below sometimes when in populated areas or explosions, but it's playable. I'd assume it's better than console performance at least.
Have it on Max settings, with Bokeh off and AA to FXAA at 1080p. No Vsync.
Windows 8.1
GTX 670
i5 3570k (not overclocked)
8gb ram
Have it on Max settings, with Bokeh off and AA to FXAA at 1080p. No Vsync.
Windows 8.1
GTX 670
i5 3570k (not overclocked)
8gb ram
I don't say the game it's not a beauty in some moment but the explosions not seem that crazy stuff to drops the fps so much.
Saiyan-Rox
Member
After an hour of play it's been flawless for me
Which is a change for me when it comes to PC games lol
Which is a change for me when it comes to PC games lol
There is more than meets our eyes. We do not have detailed data about how the explosions are rendered, but they sure do look beautiful.
They have to, because in this game we are going to blow a lot of stuff up.
Off topic but I don't see this game having much longevity, the base concept is extremely fun but too thin on the ground I'm afraid. Happy I got it for 30€ (physical).
If I were you i'd sell those two cards immediately and get a 980 ti. Multi-GPU setups are just a nightmare.
Xplatformer
Member
Annemunition has Twitch streamed over 15 hours of this game in the last 3 days. Her rig is running it with the only hiccup being borderless windows.
I can't access Twitch from work so i can't post her specs.
I can't access Twitch from work so i can't post her specs.
Getting very playable frame rates on my 1440p Freesync setup. Usually uppers 50s through mid 70s, most commonly at 58-63 or so. High explosive action brings it into the 40s.
i7 5820k @ 4.4GHz
Fury
16GB DDR4
FXAA and all maxed out except LOD at High and Bokeh Off. FYI I have the Global AMD Driver set for maximum Tessellation at 8X, as always.
Minor bug? If I alt-tab it caps my framerate at 60fps unless I change the resolution to something else and then back to 1440. Annoying.
i7 5820k @ 4.4GHz
Fury
16GB DDR4
FXAA and all maxed out except LOD at High and Bokeh Off. FYI I have the Global AMD Driver set for maximum Tessellation at 8X, as always.
Minor bug? If I alt-tab it caps my framerate at 60fps unless I change the resolution to something else and then back to 1440. Annoying.
I'm not trying to downplay the tech behind but if you ask to a 'normal' person, he can't understand how can be so expensive when it seems more ugly of other game. That's why I think tech failing here compared to the artistic choice.