What about the smartphone version?
But yeah, glad for a speed up feature... Battles always felt like they took a good bit to start >.>
Final Fantasy IX coming to PC & Smartphones
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What about the smartphone version?
But yeah, glad for a speed up feature... Battles always felt like they took a good bit to start >.>
AuthenticM
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So I guess they did have the source code after all?
NipplesAndToes23
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Still excited for this!
artsi
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They lost it, but Ito happened to find it behind the toilet during his janitorial duties.
You both know what he meant, don't act stupid. Port begging is rampant in PC threads nowadays and it is typically brought on by the Sony crowd, it is getting fucking unbearable.
Professor Beef
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I sure didn't. Once I found out that the second half of the game was a fetch quest for all the party members that I bothered to level, I deleted my save file and got rid of the game.
A high-speed mode is fine, but I really wish they would fix the internal issues with the game in general. I don't want them to bring all the flaws of the PS1 version into this and hope that "High Speed Mode" will make them palatable.
They really need to just fix the sluggish performance.
Basically, just fix the horrible shit they had to do to get the thing to run on the PS1. Don't use High Speed Mode as a crutch to ignore the engine's problems.
They really need to just fix the sluggish performance.
- The load times were terrible (which should hopefully be fixed just by being on PC/smartphone)
- Battles ran at 15 FPS (it should be 60)
- Animations in battle are probably also capped at 15 FPS. Those need to get unlocked as well.
Basically, just fix the horrible shit they had to do to get the thing to run on the PS1. Don't use High Speed Mode as a crutch to ignore the engine's problems.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
When you go fro the best protagonist in FF history, Squall to Zidane D Luffy, it's hard to say much more.
Professor Beef
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why does it matter if the game is at 60 fps
Tizoc
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Silky smooth animations yo~ Then again with 4x speed, the battles would be 60 FPS :V
Professor Beef
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oh, is that all?
DarkLordMalik
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Ito saved Final Fantasy, confirmed.
Because it's a game and games should run at 60 FPS? It's somewhat crucial as an interactable medium to display and operate smoothly. Doesn't matter what genre it is.
Professor Beef
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i guess that's the difference between us, since i personally don't care about fps rates at all
you do you, though
Preferences obviously differ, but I am honestly surprised to hear that someone is content with 15 frames per second. You kind of come off as someone who has been living under a rock or something.
Professor Beef
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Like I mentioned, I have never cared about FPS counts in games. Today is the first time I have ever heard that FF9 runs at 15 FPS, and I...don't really know if I should be mad or not. But the game is still fun to me, so *shrug*
EDIT: I'm not saying that FPS rates shouldn't matter, or that people who do care about it don't matter, or anything like that BTW. I'm only speaking for myself, so don't get any other ideas.
FF9 is still one of my favorite games. But it, and other Square-Enix games of the time, suffer from very lackluster performance. This is the time to change that!
No reason to be mad it ran at 15 FPS. But even during that time it was new, there was definitely a feeling of sluggishness compared to other games running at higher rates. The framerate wasn't the only thing that made the battles feel slow.
lol, OK.
Makoto Yuki
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Yeah, I mean I need 60fps to select Attack from a menu.
Higher fps would be nice but it's not that important in this title frok.a pure gameplay perspective. They should do it and I'd be disappointed if they didn't. But unlike the FFVII port which had Tifa's slot reels and FFVIII which had Squall and Zell's limits, FFIX doesn't really require the precision input from higher FPS. It would mainly be a visual benefit since the battles in FFVII in particular looked really hard to watch. It's why I played at 3X speed always on.
So are you talking out of your ass about Zidane, about Luffy, or about both?
You're wrong for one simple reason: If people are just buying what's not already in their collection, why is FFVII consistently at the top of the list over that same period? Surely everyone already has that one too, right?
Sorry. Your excuse might work if it were just the first few months of release, but IX has outsold VIII nearly every single month for over two straight years. That's not just people completing collections, that's the superior game selling in greater numbers, just like VII does.
ThreePiMatt
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So, have they stated how they're doing this? FFIX never came out on the PC originally like VII and VIII. Is it going to end up just being an emulation or they actually doing the work to port it over?
One glance at the in-game footage should tell you it's a port and not an emulation. The battle HUD looks different.
Because there is nothing else in the game besides picking one command from a 2D menu, right?
60 FPS is great for input precision, but that isn't really why it should be standard. It's nice to play a game and actually have it animate and move smoothly. And especially in a game like this where hardware is more than capable of running it at 60 FPS, why shouldn't it?
high framerate is simply quality of life. The game doesn't necessarily have to play better at higher framerates, but it will feel better and be an overall better experience.
IX isn't a superior game. It's hyped up by a vocal group but it's not very good especially compared to vii or viii.
Your probably right that people want to try it which is why it's selling.
darkistheway
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Is there a business reason why this is not coming to PS4 and Xbox One? Just weird to me.
Have always wanted to re-visit this game, and increased battle speed would be a welcome change.
Have always wanted to re-visit this game, and increased battle speed would be a welcome change.
Makoto Yuki
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All valid points. I'm not saying it shouldn't be 60fps, I'm just saying, from a gameplay perspective, 60fps doesn't really benefit turn based/ menu based RPGs.
Would it benefit the game overall? Absolutely, the game would look even better. Does it need to be? No. You say that it's "somewhat crucial for the medium to display and operate smoothly" but I would say that's more important for action oriented games and fighting games.
Menu based RPGs would LOOK better at 60fps, but gameplay wise, I can't see it helping immensely.
Lessee
Tactics, twelve, I think ten is coming but isn't out just yet. Other then that I think it's just the first two games, and the somewhat more obscure spin offs.
PS: mentioned this a few days ago, but, if there's some feature the game is missing that people really want, it's highly likely that modders can implement them, so long as they aren't, TOO complex anyway.
ArkhamFantasy
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1, 2, 10, 12 i think.
NipplesAndToes23
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You're saying that like it's a fact when it's not. For me VII is among the weakest in the series and VIII is still good, but can't compare. IX has done something nothing that any other Final Fantasy nor game ever has done and that is shaped the course of my life forever with the impeccable writing, music, and heart. I tell you right now I don't know what I'd do with myself if I never played it.
KojiKnight
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I sure didn't. Once I found out that the second half of the game was a fetch quest for all the party members that I bothered to level, I deleted my save file and got rid of the game.
Wow... it's so much not even that I don't even know what to tell you... But hey, I've quit good games for stupid reasons too.
As for the framerate... You don't need 60fps for this game, BUT even 30fps would be very nice compared to default 15...
I think you can make the argument that it doesn't matter mechanically for any game. Action games need it for feeling, not mechanics. I think the smooth responsive feeling is worth it for every type of game. That's just me personally. I will agree that it should be the highest priority in action games, but I would rate it near the top for other games, too.
Either way, let's hope! Even a bump to 30 would help the game a lot; but that battle footage in the trailer didn't look promising.
It's simple: What sells on PSN is what people want to play. VIII has never been a very good game, and in the years since people have come to realize this, which is why VIII is almost never in the top 10 for PSOne Classics while both VII and IX usually are: they are both better than VIII (IX more so than VII).
Impeccable writing, music, and heart. I don't get that at all. There's a few funny and cute moments like when Steiner and Zidane are arguing, Eiko is flirting with Zidane, Garnet is trying to learn to be a common girl, and Quina is being comic relief, but that's it. Vivi's story is the one good serious part for me. So moments that make you laugh and Vivi. What did you find so moving about it?
(I'm not the person you replied to. I'm a different Lothar, in cast there's confusion, heh)
Makoto Yuki
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I think you can make the argument that it doesn't matter mechanically for any game. Action games need it for feeling, not mechanics. I think the smooth responsive feeling is worth it for every type of game. That's just me personally. I will agree that it should be the highest priority in action games, but I would rate it near the top for other games, too.
Either way, let's hope! Even a bump to 30 would help the game a lot; but that battle footage in the trailer didn't look promising.
I see where your'e coming from.
If the final product isn't a consistent 30fps, at the very least, that would be really sad. I remember the PS1 version being stuttery at times.
Cut it with that 60 FPS crap. We now have ways to register inputs almost as fast as 60 on 30, if it's not an action game there is no way to tell them apart with modern techniques.
Also, "smooth animation yummy yum yum" yeah cool. The backgrounds are animated at a much lower framerate. They are not generated in 3D.
Forcing 60 FPS would ruin the game entirely since the characters would behave much faster than the world they are in.
So NO, this game should not be 60 fps for the sake of being 60 fps.
X and X-2 were discovered during the latest batch of SteamDB leaks.
This isn't 100% confirmation, but there is a strong likelihood they are in development.
Input response was never my primary argument.
Two of the primary game "scenes" are rendered entirely in 3D: battles and overworld. That's a substantial amount of real-time 3D that will benefit from an increased framerate.
"Behave faster"? No, they would animate smoother. You'd get less janky animation. What your point attempted to be is that you'd have the animation for the field maps animating slower than the 3D meshes. But surprise: that's already happening in the PS1 version. The field maps are running at a higher framerate (looks like 30), while the battles and overworld are 15. All the "CG" field map background animations are running well below 30. EDIT: But the game also has a substantial amount of mesh animation on field maps, which would also look better at 60 FPS.
Yes it should, because the issues you listed above aren't accurate.
Except when it actually breaks games like Valkyria Chronicles PC until it was patched.
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