dantevsninjas
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That's not even remotely close to true.
Marc Laidlaw has left Valve
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That's not even remotely close to true.
Isn't the Source SDK absolutely awful, the editor or something is archaic. I think that's more the reason for Source 2.0 than new games and porting their games to Source 2.0 seems like they are sticking with the golden gooses rather than moving on to new stuff.
nekkid
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
I totally get that, and in most cases you're right. But when you love a game series and they leave the last instalment on a cliffhanger and don't mention it again for 10 years, it really is a bitch.
To be fair, if they weren't planning on making it I can't believe that they wouldn't have concluded the story in a graphic novel or something by now.
No imagining necessary, Laidlaw said that the holdup was explicitly not to do with story years ago (and that he had the story beats planned out already).
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
How long until spiritual successor pops up on KS?
Lasthope106
Member
Welp.
HL2 is my favorite game of all time. It is really too bad that Valve feels they have nothing to add to the franchise. I would have been happy with just another episode.
HL2 is my favorite game of all time. It is really too bad that Valve feels they have nothing to add to the franchise. I would have been happy with just another episode.
If Half Life 3 doesn't exist, why doesn't Valve just come out and publicly say something like "We are not making Half Life 3 right now and we have no plans to change that?"
I'm sure some representative somewhere down the line has said something along the lines of "no comment," but Valve should make it clear to everybody that we shouldn't be expecting HL3 if it's not going to come out.
I'm sure some representative somewhere down the line has said something along the lines of "no comment," but Valve should make it clear to everybody that we shouldn't be expecting HL3 if it's not going to come out.
If they don't feel like telling the world, they won't.
That's how that company works.
Is this based on anything other than preference?
GlamFM
Banned
Our perception of them as a company would change.
We wouldn´t feel the need to support them anymore.
They want to be perceived as the genius developer they once were - not as the salesmen they actually are.
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/dota-2, currently has about 12 million unique players, recently landed at #39 in the EDGE 100 Greatest Videogames special.
I don't see why that's a suspect statement.
Schweinehund
Member
That's disappointing, but I'm sure there's notes and outlines he had for Half Life 3 or where they generally wanted to take the story, if it ever happens.
Hope he enjoys his retirement.
Hope he enjoys his retirement.
balladofwindfishes
Member
Black Mesa is an officially licensed Half Life game, so Valve isn't opposed to letting other developers make Half Life games.
SuperSonic1305
Member
You mean Blizzard.
family_guy
Member
Wouldn't that be stating the obvious after the 10+ year hiatus?
You mean modders.
balladofwindfishes
Member
The majority of which are now Valve employees
Yeah, can we stop every Half Life 3 thread from turning into DOTA 2 bashing?
Also, the current version of DOTA 2 is so far from what it was on the WCIII mod that this whole stigma that Valve just copy pasted the game into a nicer looking engine needs to end.
There are huge, fundamental differences between those games and DOTA 2 absolutely deserves to be high up on a greatest games of all time list.
Blizzard made Dota, folks.
Hence I included links to a reviews aggregate site and a ranking in the list of what many people consider gaming's most prestigious magazine. I'm not sure the point you're trying to make. Casablanca is also insanely popular.
afternoon delight
Member
I don't have the heart to post the Half-Death Replay thread. RIP.
In all seriousness, Laidlaw's major story work on Half-Life's continuation was finished years and years ago. His retirement won't be a major factor in either Half-Life 3's death or eventual release.
But even Valve has said there stories arent fixed in stone right from the beginning, but that they evolve and are rewritten as the game play changes along the way.
ashecitism
Member
Except Episode 4's cancellation shows it can be problematic for the HL2 saga as its unfinished. Also communication and tech support issues.
Sure, but the basis and the game itself was created and iterated lots outside of Valve first.
I like Valve and Dota, before anyone gets their panties in a bunch, but the game didn't start to grow from the minds of Valve or Blizzard first. The former daw the Value and acquired the talent, the latter didn't know what to do with it so did nothing for it.
Casablance also didn't gross 2.7 billion world wide to confirm its grandness. Not too mention there are tons of movies that critics absolutely adored that you never ever hear about even a few years after their release and vice versa there are movies that critics absolutely hated and despised and are still in the popular culture.
Remember movies called Blade Runner and the Thing, well those were basically panned by critics when they came out and nearly bombed at the box office. Just saying because it rates highly in one manner doesn't mean its an all time great.
I just don't like people going,"Look at how huge the box office was, it must be great!" or "Did you see, its got a 99% on rottentomatoes.com" and presenting that as a conclusion this movie is incredible. I'm not trying to discredit those either but I just dont see them as some kind of ultimate tell on whether something is good or great or whatever.
ashecitism
Member
Brad is a huge Dota fan, so it wouldn't surprise me if he worked on that.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I need a chrome app to change all instances of "Valve" to "The Salesman Formerly Known as Valve"
Cynn
Member
And soon gloves.
ZombieSupaStar
Member
I would say we get mad at Blizzard who sat on the entire MOBA genre for so long doing jack shit with it that it causes the one company who makes Half Life games to devote all their resources to another MOBA and now of course everyone and their mother is making MOBAs and we have no new Half Life to play.
They barely work on that.
Most of the stuff is community created right? All Valve does is approve items and maintain the game infrastructure.
I'm just pissed off that Valve doesn't comment at all especially after they were so bold with talking about how episode games would change everything and the cliff hanger to episode 2.
At least fucking make an honest statement to the fans regarding what happened and what is going to happen with the franchise.
Whompa02
Member
I mean, can you blame people for wanting something they grew up with and really liked?
I'm sure Harry Potter fans would be bummed if J. K. Rowling was like, "I can't talk about the ending to the book series, but um...yeah" and never released the final book. That kind of non-messaging would drive people insane...
balladofwindfishes
Member
This has never been true. TF2 is still actively developed by Valve, the community just supplies art assets, it's Valve that implements them. Does anyone say Mario Kart 8 was mostly Monolith made, because they were outsourced as asset creation? No, that'd be ridiculous. Valve still needs to implement, test and then maintain anything they add to the game. For weapons they need to balance, test far more extensively, and maintain for a lot longer with more serious consequences on the game if they mess up.
This is also a weird thing to say now, considering they've released a few major updates within the last few months adding new features and modes, and they're building a massive competitive oriented update to be released in a few months. Something that will have a huge impact on TF2, and something the community is not developing at all.
I've also seen contributors mention that the royalties on their assets is actually at or above the usual royalties offered for out sourced assets. A single model in a video game is not going to give the artist 10,000 dollars within the first few months, and then a steady income of a few hundred after that. And yet that's about the average for cosmetics (or was a few years ago, not sure where it is these days).
They ported Dota 2 to an entirely new engine a few months ago, and release several major updates a year that make huge changes to the game, adding new heroes, a new map, new creeps, items, visual updates and stuff that the community could never, ever make. In addition to hosting four multi-million internationally hosted tournaments.
ashecitism
Member
Just to pour some salt in the wounds last year Rob Pardo said they were in talks with IceFrog years before Valve hired him, but ultimately decided not to hire him and do their own MOBA, because they were busy with SC2 and D3. hahahaha.
Wolpaw and Faliszek are talented enough to helm the series themselves, let alone "merely" adapt Laidlaw's story as the game evolves, though to be frank I don't think it's known how much of Half-Life's story post-HL2 is theirs to begin with (they and Laidlaw all worked on Ep1 and Ep2, and presumably HL3). May be a little. May be a lot.
OnionPowder
Member
Isn't that how opinions work?
No Blizzard created Warcraft 3 which Dota was spun off from. They're nothing alike in terms of gameplay. That's like saying id made Half-Life because it ran on a modified Quake engine.
They've also been making some awesome custom game modes.
TF2 had bugs for years that they didn't fix that happened the esport scene. Things like the wrangler being busted fucked up things like 6v6.
Valve used TF2 as a transition for new employees to get used to working at valve then you would move your desk to something new.
Then you have stupid short sighted ideas of R8 having any sort of balance at all. Plus it was buggy as shit when they patched it recently.
All I know is the VR team right now is the largest and if they don't announce a game to come out with the Vive soon then as far as I'm concerned all they have done is run in place.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
Valve has trouble coming out and saying anything when people's steam accounts get compromised. Saying anything about HL 3 would be a massive leap. They aren't the best when it comes to PR.
ChaosZeroX
Banned
Whya re people surprised? Its been 9 years since anything with the name Half Life came out. Valve is obviously not working on anything regarding Half Life.
Neuromancer
Member
I've made peace with the fact that Valve doesn't have an interest in making single player games any more. The sooner you all get to the same place the happier you will be.
Source:
http://kotaku.com/5795355/valve-probably-done-with-single-player-games