Alright, that I like. Changes the scene quite a bit.
Batman v Superman - New Clip
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Alright, that I like. Changes the scene quite a bit.
Your criticizing people for being lazy and negative when discussing the film when your making similar assumptions based on the same footage just on the positive end of the spectrum. Based on what you've seen how is this going to be "The best comic book movie". Thats exactly like others saying saying its going to be completely awful based on what we've seen. Snyder isn't a revered director. Hes made a fair few bad films. Imo some of the footage shown looks goofy and Cavill is a bad actor. Plenty of reasons for it not turning out to be the best film ever.
Why is this a shitpost?
keltickennedy
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Batman really doesn't seem to having any luck with the batmobile. Just in the stuff that has been shown.... he crashes it twice and get stuck in the cockpit. Hahaha. He even has to repair it at least once in the movie after Superman rips the doors off cause we see the same thing happen in the Doomsday reveal. lol. He really needs to put a ejector seat in there.
But hey....when it comes down to it. We are getting Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman in a movie. My expectations are pretty low. At this point I just wanna see these characters do cool shit in the movie. I'm sure Snyder will deliver on that front.
But hey....when it comes down to it. We are getting Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman in a movie. My expectations are pretty low. At this point I just wanna see these characters do cool shit in the movie. I'm sure Snyder will deliver on that front.
ViewtifulJC
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Love how negative opinions are shit posts. Run on back to the BvS community circlejerk thread if that hurts you so much. You can all say positive things all the time, and make BvS Complaint Cycle images, and complain about mean ol OT for having opinions that don't line up with yours.
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Lord Virgin
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He isn't tho. Woudn't call him very good either, more like servicable (pretty much like all the actors playing a superhero with a few exceptions). And that's all you need really. Could you imagine if he was actually very threatening and scary? ''Omg look at what they do with Superman, they just don't get it!'' This makes actual sense, Clark isn't that kinda person and he really doesn't wanna do this. So it isn't supposed to be really threatening.
I don't know. I tried getting into it but he was so deliberate and obvious with his body language and mannerisms. His stiff upper body, the head bounces; all of that came off calculated and not in any form natural or convincing. I mean:
http://www.hulu.com/watch/826448
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Lord Virgin
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I criticized one guy for his reaction: ''lol okay'' and deservedly so. Don't care about the negativity, people can think whatever they want. Lazy posts don't really bother me either. It's the constant drive-by shitposts from the same people in these threads which causes people to stay away from these threads. That I do find kind of annoying.
keltickennedy
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I thought he was great in The Man From U.N.C.L.E. Definitely check that out if you haven't yet. It was one of my favorite movies last year.
The bolded is not a thing.
Henry Cavill was solid in Man of Uncle but man as Superman he has almost no charisma. Don't know what's going on here.
This is probably why we have heard so few lines from him. Same for Gadot, I don't think the marketing guys have much confidence in either of these actors.
On the other hand, for what he's provided Jesse is delivering the lines with a lot of pizazz.
This is probably why we have heard so few lines from him. Same for Gadot, I don't think the marketing guys have much confidence in either of these actors.
On the other hand, for what he's provided Jesse is delivering the lines with a lot of pizazz.
Pai Pai Master
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Criticism = shitposting yeah
Fully disagree, for me he is the first Superman to act like a higher being and not like a children hero. There's something ethereal in him.
If I were to go into the gaming side of the forum, drop into any popular thread, and say how awful and what a piece of shit a game is or looks without backing up anything I say aside from lazy criticism (too serious), and post that three to four more times, id be banned in a heartbeat.
Point me in the direction of his ctiticism please
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Lord Virgin
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Allright, I read it again and it was:
Batman breaks in Lexcorp and steals some Kryptonite, he found out Lex had those after doing some detective work and hacking his phone/security passwords and whatnot. Somehow the alarm goes off and he decides to espace. Superman who's been following his activities for some time doesn't like his methods and considers him dangerous. Decides to put a stop to this and so this scene happens. It was worded better with more detail to it etc. But this is what allegedly happens. Whether it's true or not, we'll see. But that 'leaked' script got some things right before the trailers so....there is a rumour that some things have been changed so it's not entirely the same. Some differences.
I actually believe the other time may be him in the Batjet/plane not the Batmobile
If talking about the scene near the end of recent trailer
Primethius
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Does anyone? I'm counting on Affleck, Irons and Zuckerberg to have to carry the movie acting wise.
Space Medafighter X
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Looks fuckin dope, super hyped for the movie!
No, because that ignores the facts of the situation. Superman isn't good at threats. Even in a heightened state, his threat to Batman is an invitation. He's saying, "It's futile to fight because I can end this at any time." But Batman reads that as, "I should fight because you could have ended this at any time and didn't."
Even when he means to be threatening he isn't good at it. We've already seen that. Expecting a brilliant threat when he doesn't mean it is warped expectations, not a plain reading.
You can pull that off if the acting is good. Hell Dr Manhattan pulled that better than Superman is doing it here.
BadAss2961
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Man, this thread is a mess. Just let people complain if they want to.
Everywhere else i'm reading is loving these new clips. This movie's gonna be huge.
Everywhere else i'm reading is loving these new clips. This movie's gonna be huge.
ViewtifulJC
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1. That's not true, gaming side has plenty of that
2. I'm supposed to back up my genuine feeling about a 30 second clip? It looks goofy as hell to me. These guys don't seem like heroes, they seem like macho posturing douchebags. That is my reaction to to this piece of media. Am I'm suppose to write a college thesis on that? Do I need a mathematical proof?
Too serious is lazy criticism? Its a 20 second film clip. I honestly don't know what you're doing.
At the very least it's consistent with his character displayed in Man of Steel. Supes is still unsure of himself. The entire movie was him being unsure and doubting himself.
I hate shitposting too. It ruins threads. I'm just not seeing that much evidence of it here. The poster you quoted has explained his/her opinion in various posts. I just don't see much difference in saying this film looks like complete garbage and saying this is going to be the best comic book film ever.Cool if you think so man, I genuinely hope you enjoy it. Just making an observation.
I actually like this thread for the most part
Because actually discussing the content/interpretation of the footage, and not the nebulous of what the movie may or may not be. Why it may or may not fail.
and ultimately, I think it's an interesting scene to pick from, but seems like context is needed coming into the scene to really understand the character's mindset. Which is why folks seem so split on it.
Though, I don't get the complaints about Cavill's delivery.
To be fair, that's what every super hero looks like anyway. Especially the 3 way Iron Man, Thor and Cap fight in the first Avengers. Just a bunch of posturing and dick waving.
Now valid criticism is that even if they are posturing and threatening each other, it's coming across as weak sauce. Superman doesn't feel too into it and Batman almost comes across as a bitch.
And breh let's be real here both you and I will be there day 1 to watch this movie. We wouldn't even be in this thread if we weren't going to watch it.
Pai Pai Master
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I think it's dry, like a lot of his acting in MoS. That's the worst thing I can say about it because it's not bad dialogue, it's not poorly acted, it just kinda sounds like Superman is reading a line.
Which may very well be the case, he could be struggling with being intimating to a guy who clearly does not fear him like others do. But separated from the film it just lacks impact.
Byakuya769
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Sounds like anime voice dubs.
dragonyeuw
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That's the problem, by all measure he is above us, but he shouldn't act or place himself above us. I'm no expert of the comics, but based off the few I read as a kid and the various interpretations over the years( the Reeve films, cartoons, Lois and Clark), he's never been portrayed in that manner.
keltickennedy
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Ahhh. Good catch. I think, yeah...there was just one central seat in the Doomsday scene.
Yeah. I always saw him as a god that was raised by conservative parents and that had a big influence in shaping his ideals. A god who feels like he is above us sounds more like Dr. Manhattan.
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Lord Virgin
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This thread luckily isn't as bad as most of the other BvS threads we've had. But there was def. a lot of shitposting going on in those. Which would be bearable if not for the fact that there wasn't an actual conversation like there is now.
Yeah, this thread is much better. So, with that in mind:
Do people expect a reverse Snyder? Poor marketing (not for me personally, but for those who do) but great film? MoS had pretty good trailers and spots iirc and people had high expectations and a lot ended up disliking the movie. So, maybe it's the other way around this time?
I just thought he was saying it matter of factly.
Not as threat, not as a hot-head. Just like this is what you're going to do or I'm coming back.
But again think need to see the larger context.
The marketing for this movie has been... fascinating. since they clearly want to focus on the conflict between the two, but also seem to shy away from making either the bad guy in the marketing... and giving away that they eventually do put aside their differences.
So a lot of these scenes are just like... okay but why or okay then what
And I think this is an okay then what type of deal. Like I don't feel like Batman is attempting to be a tough guy to Superman. I think he's just saying that he hasn't given up, and the "You will" is more of him making a promise to himself than a threat to Superman.
BadAss2961
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For every post of analysis there's one for who's shitposting posting and who's not shitposting. A driveby on how the movie will fail (good luck with that prediction), or fuggin rottentomatoes.
Either the marketing continues to lower my expectations to the point that I'm surprised by how much I enjoy the film, or the Chris Terrio/Ben Affleck one-two punch elevates this film beyond any other comic book movie in recent history.
I mean, the ingredients are right there.
I'd be willing to go along with this if Cavill hadn't already shown that he's not a good actor.
Bobby Roberts
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No shit, Dave.
There's no need to keep going around on this. The positions are pretty clearly stated:
Me: Thinks they might have miscalculated on how they're presenting Superman, and that Henry isn't doing a particularly good job bringing that to life in this clip
You: Thinks the delivery is questionable on purpose because the characterization of Superman is on point and Henry's simply adhering to that, and if people would let "Knightmare Superman" or "Nu52" Superman out of the way, they'd see it.
Without having actually watched the film to see how any of this plays in context, it's pretty pointless to continue trying to hash out whether this single out-of-context scene fits either assumption (tentative in my case, apparently rock-fuckin-solid in yours) as to why his line delivery sucks. We're missing 2 1/2 hours of film on either side of this scene.
I love how defensive you get in these threads when you do the very thing you complain about in every MCU thread.
Yeah, but it's been 2 1/2 years of stuff like that
At this point it doesn't bother me. If folks want to come and crap on the movie... so be it. But for the most part and especially the last few pages, i like that there is a discussion about the content of the film.
and not some made up rumors or some Reddit review or some weird thing with your disdain for them not doing it the same way as Marvel or w/e.
This is an issue of not being able to let go of a preconceived notion of who Superman should be. It's fine to not like this take but this what they wanted to go with. Some people like it, others dont. No biggie.
I love it. Superman doesn't get to puff his chest out enough in the public eye.
There's an infamous Batman quote from the comics where he talks about Clark being the most human of them all but then he shoots fire from the sky and it's difficult to not think of him as a god. And how lucky they are it doesn't occur to Clark.
It occurs to this Clark. He very much knows he could wreck everybody's shit and he's one bad day away from saying, "fuck it."
BadAss2961
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Are you actually reading what i'm saying? I think most of the complaints here will end up looking stupid, but i'm not liking how defensive fans are getting in this thread either.
I want this movie to be ridiculously good. It's Batman vs Superman... you can't fuck it up not in this day and age where people are making solid movies with lesser known comic book characters.
I feel like the first 2/3rds of the movie will be good but it will be a mess in the last 1/3rd. I feel like they will do a good job of setting up the BvS conflict but after it has resolved it will sort of go downhill from there.
And it all reeks of David Goyer plus DC's influence to speed into Justice League. And I feel like it might hurt the movie.
However, I will remind people that many were really down on X men Apocalypse during the marketing phase and it ended up being an excellent movie. Same thing could happen here but we are comparing Bryan Singer with Zack Snyder here.
As someone who's enjoyed nearly all of MCU, let me give you DC-diehards some advice; Embrace the doubt. Embrace the haters.
It'll make BvS' success even better. If you want someone to focus your anger, then direct it towards WB execs who haven't given fans a new movie in 3yrs
He really did not like Argo winning best picture.
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