Trojita
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Prompto be like
Anyone have that gif handy from FO4 where the dog is on fire but not even reacting? Would be a great contrast.
Edit: This was all I could find lol
FINAL FANTASY XV - Niflheim Base Battle Footage
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Anyone have that gif handy from FO4 where the dog is on fire but not even reacting? Would be a great contrast.
Edit: This was all I could find lol
Omg that Prompto reaction is gold. Hope he does like that throughout the game.
Ah yes, that's true of course. I was only appreciating the diamonds from an art direction standpoint but you're absolutely right to point out they served a gameplay function as well. I did notice how I found the old UI and its health bars to be more readable and it wasn't just because things have gotten more cluttered now. It's a subtle function but that only makes me appreciate them more.
And really, when I look at the UI now it reminds me of Square's mobile Final Fantasy games and their UIs. That's the real crime here.
I do think it's one of those things I could still get tweaked at this point but the fact that those details used to be present only to have vanished now does make me feel less confident that they'll bring them back. I still can't wrap my head around such a change though. Someone must have decided they didn't like it.
Ah yes, that's true of course. I was only appreciating the diamonds from an art direction standpoint but you're absolutely right to point out they served a gameplay function as well. I did notice how I found the old UI and its health bars to be more readable and it wasn't just because things have gotten more cluttered now. It's a subtle function but that only makes me appreciate them more.
And really, when I look at the UI now it reminds me of Square's mobile Final Fantasy games and their UIs. That's the real crime here.
I do think it's one of those things I could still get tweaked at this point but the fact that those details used to be present only to have vanished now does make me feel less confident that they'll bring them back. I still can't wrap my head around such a change though. Someone must have decided they didn't like it.
AmaterasuOni
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And that's why it's called fantasy. Yes. I think 99% of the players are not going to get distracted about things like that. It's just the current trend to criticize things that does not matter the slightest.
People like to look pretty things. No one cares if the tank character is wearing bikinis if she looks good. No one cares if the main warrior guy looks like Arnold in Conan. They're the fantastical stereotypes. Guys are big, muscular and dumb, women are either hot and in bikinis or evil and dark in a long black dress with an open cut to show some cleavage and legs. I like that. I actually love that. I like to look pretty things, not people who wield full plate armor. Women are pretty, beautiful beings, I love them, I like to look at them. I like bikini warriors in the games. To put it bluntly, that's why the games sell.
You have your opinion of course, but I hope this critical trend doesn't spread its wings, because this might kill the joy of gaming from players like me (and I guess the majority of gamers).
Stereotypes are great, but even better are the small wonders when the stereotype is being broken and something new appears among the bikini warriorettes and thong warriors. There's something for all of us to enjoy, just don't try to spoil these things for others, please.
EDIT: This is not the place to discuss about this either. I understand what you say, but hey, you don't need to buy games you don't like.
Vinterbird
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Game looks fun. Really fun.
I'm sad about the female design and the booby-outfit. Hopefully someone at Square-Enix will one day go "Maybe we shouldn't do that anymore".
I'm sad about the female design and the booby-outfit. Hopefully someone at Square-Enix will one day go "Maybe we shouldn't do that anymore".
Dark_castle
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Nightengale
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I'll go so far to say that with the exception of real-time combat, this has been the obvious trajectory for FF for a long, long time now.
FF has always been filled with many various pace-breakers. Stealth section. Bike/snowboard mini-games. Scripted gameplay + combat moments that forces you to change up your moment-to-moment gameplay. (like running away)
Because they've always been interlaced with the turn-based combat system, and because FFXIII was poorly executed, they've never been overtly obvious, but it was imo, very clear that Square have always wanted achieve the "Uncharted 2 train sequence" with Final Fantasy, and this is a long-time culmination of that ideal since over a decade ago.
If one step back from the nostalgia of wanting to keep those pace-breakers as they were in the PS1/PS2 era, the natural evolution of those mechanics... are exactly what we've seen with this gameplay trailer + what other franchises has done with cinematic sequences ala Uncharted/etc. By making those moments seamless and part of the gameplay (on the stick), this is the result of those things.
Absolutely NOTHING is fit for battling monsters that are, at best, the size of skyscrapers. It's not like some armor would do fuck all at that point. The group being partly protected by Noctis' magic is a better reasoning for how these people can battle Titans than some leather armor protecting them from dragons biting them in half. And the kind of armor people talk about would be even far less appropriate for travel & the game overall for a variety of reasons.
https://youtu.be/irrnb3Xf_d8?t=35s
I don't know if they outright confirmed it, but I think this does.
That's fine. A franchise like Final Fantasy has gone on long enough to earn the luxury (or burden? Maybe both) of meaning different things to different people.
NoctisVsStar
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Nightengale
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That's fine.
But I also think that it should be fair on both sides to acknowledge that for all the different things FF mean to different people... everything except the change to a more action-RPG combat system has been part and parcel of Final Fantasy's visual, lore & moment-to-moment gameplay DNA since as far back as FFV or VI.
Morning Star
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I was referring more to the animation, how the weapons are now opaque and fully visible when the weapon switch occurs, unlike the E3 2013 footage. But now that I'm looking at the rest of the ATR footage the weapon changing isn't completely done. So I suppose that's something that happens later.
NoctisVsStar
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Badpsychometry
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Ummm... When does this game actually come out? I am now salivating from that base video. Wow. This looks amazing.
I'm going to use this as an abandon thread gif, thank you.
I love the fire effects, really curious to see what blizzard looks like and how much environmental damage you can really do.
Nightengale
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Sometime after March 30th this year.
Acquiescence
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I don't like how much that footage reminds me of MGS.
toddhunter
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Yep, that isn't the problem.
What concerns me is that this game now looks like it has drawn inspiration from every other popular series... where those series were about three or four years ago.
It probably works in a short video, but over a long RPG? I'm not confident that there will be any sort of cohesion, or if there is cohesion, if any of that will be particular good.
Basically, I'm waiting for the video where they show you climbing a tower and diving into some haystacks.
Oh man, this music... I can already tell I'll be listening to this soundtrack constantly.
That base infiltration looks more Metal Gear than MGSV. I'm liking what I'm seeing though. It definitely doesn't look like what I'd expect from a traditional FF, but after XIII that's probably a good thing.
That base infiltration looks more Metal Gear than MGSV. I'm liking what I'm seeing though. It definitely doesn't look like what I'd expect from a traditional FF, but after XIII that's probably a good thing.
MissDeviling
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It's called fantasy because it's a fantastical world. With its own set physics and rules that, when followed, helps immerse the reader/player/viewer. World-building 101. While I'm not asking everyone to dress like a medieval knight, they can at least try to suspend my disbelief. Kain from FF4 has beautiful stylized dragoon armour that covers him well, and I wish we saw more of that.
You know that many feminists are fighting against these kinds of tropes, right? Believe it or not, a lot of people are touchy on the subject.
Just because I'm critical of one aspect of a game, doesn't mean I'm not excited for the rest of it. That's kind of a very simple approach to take.
God bless him/her.
Pancake Mix
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A lot of gamers like good designs such as this dragoon lady. A vocal minority will not change things for everyone else, including the large swath of people who clearly do not care either way. You certainly have the right to an opinion but I'm happy most character designers make the designs they feel like in games.
You mean chocobos?
What exactly do you mean? Are you referring to the stealth section? Because that kind of stuff is not new in the FF franchise.
Vinterbird
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It's strangely tone dear considering the stuff they tried to pull with the female mechanic (Cid?)
Crash Station
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Wow, this is the first FFXV video I've watched in over a year and this looks like something I absolutely do NOT want. Guess it's a good thing I stopped caring, but goddamn does it not feel good to be reminded how far your favorite series has deviated from your tastes.
Shift Breaker
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That's it, that's enough. I'm in, day one purchase. The advancements since Duscae 2.0 seem huge.
Nightengale
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I mean from lore perspective, stuff like mechas, gunpowder-based weaponry, the blend of sci-fi with fantasy. On the gameplay front, non-standard pace-breakers gameplay moments like stealth sections (FFVII/VIII/IX) or a real-time strategy game. (FFVII's Fort Condor)
Lol this is gold.
Well yes, that's the footage I mentioned that made me ask that question.
I'm hoping I can treat that as confirmation too but I was wondering if they had said some more about it since duscae.
Huge Succeeded
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someone needs to add the phrase
fuck this
i'm out
to that gif. just after the explosion.
Creative people aren't above criticism and there are things they can change for the better in how they approach their form of art. Revealing outfits on female characters isn't some sacred thing that should be protected by all means and can't be criticized. You can make good looking & even sexy female characters that not only look good but don't feel so out of place & as ridiculous as a car mechanic in mini-shorts & a tiny, cleavage-revealing top. Designs can be fantastical, practical AND good-looking/sexy at the same time! One does not exclude the others.
LowParry
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It's a good thing it doesn't look like a MGS game. Whew!
MissDeviling
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A lot of gamers like good designs such as this dragoon lady. A vocal minority will not change things for everyone else, including the large swath of people who clearly do not care either way. You certainly have the right to an opinion but I'm happy most character designers make the designs they feel like in games.
And it's unfortunate that a lot of people don't care for what I think is a pretty reasonable view on the matter, but I'm clearly on the losing end here, so more power to the masses, I guess.
LowParry
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And it's unfortunate that a lot of people don't care for what I think is a pretty reasonable view on the matter, but I'm clearly on the losing end here, so more power to the masses, I guess.
And the minority or whatever it is you want to call it will not purchase the game. I respect that. Honestly I think it's just best to take in what the creator has created in the world he's envisioned and go with it. There's like a lot more to the game to enjoy instead of picking out the controversy. People get offended. People love it. Darn humans.
I am here, brothers!
I swear, no matter how depressed i was when i went to bed last night, but there is nothing as good as waking up to some news about your favourite game.
And waht news, the footage looks FUCKING AWESOME.
Aerial combat, manual weapon switching, party commands, Dragoon Lady resurrects and Toad!
It all looks so fun!
I have never been more sold on the game than now.
Please come soon March, or i'll go crazy.
BELIEVE!
I swear, no matter how depressed i was when i went to bed last night, but there is nothing as good as waking up to some news about your favourite game.
And waht news, the footage looks FUCKING AWESOME.
Aerial combat, manual weapon switching, party commands, Dragoon Lady resurrects and Toad!
It all looks so fun!
I have never been more sold on the game than now.
Please come soon March, or i'll go crazy.
BELIEVE!
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