TheGreatDirector
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I think the idea is that magic is supposed to be this rare option for use sparingly as it already is extremely powerful and overuse of it would make combat far too easy.
FINAL FANTASY XV - Niflheim Base Battle Footage
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I think the idea is that magic is supposed to be this rare option for use sparingly as it already is extremely powerful and overuse of it would make combat far too easy.
The Last One
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They should explain the Ring magic next month, I'm really curious about that.
MultiJhonny
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Yep. I agree. It seems like that magic is one that will be more like traditional magic usage.
Exentryk
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I meant greyed out once all of the magic items are empty. So, if you have 10 Fires, then it would get greyed out after using Fire 10 times. Or the icon might just disappear completely. There are lots of ways to do it.
The system will be limiting, and their reason might be that it is too powerful or whatever. Personally, I'd much rather take weaker magic but be able to use it freely and more often.
Anyway. We'll see how it plays out.
Jigolo
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Heres the gamersyde DL
http://gamersyde.com/download_final_fantasy_xv_niflheim_base_battle-36531_en.html
can't seem to get it going, it's just stalled on my torrents. any help?
http://gamersyde.com/download_final_fantasy_xv_niflheim_base_battle-36531_en.html
can't seem to get it going, it's just stalled on my torrents. any help?
Not really last resort. More like using it at opportune moments when they arise rather than spamming them all the time or having to hoard them like precious diamonds.
Dark_castle
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I'm a little worried that the one we see in this footage is the faster one, while the slower one is basically just Episode Duscae. That would really suck. As you said, I would be really happy if it's this and another mode which gets rid of button holding.
Exentryk
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Me in every single FF or, hell, JRPG ever.
The Last One
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LOL This is so true.
Yup, mentioned it a few pages ago:
I just remembered that Luna has a ring in her hand (probably for Noctis) when she's escaping after the invasion of Noctis' home city and is waiting for him to meet her so she can give it to him, I guess.
Also:
When a king of Lucis dies, their wisdom gets passed to the next generation thus the royal line lives on. That ring that Nomura mentioned in the past as a significant object, is in fact inherited by the person next in line for the throne of Lucis. Naturally, Regis posses one of these rings. What happens to the ring during Luciss invasion? This is a key point the ring contains both the wisdom and power of the previous king of Lucis. The summoned swords are also inherited from each previous king. In the story, there are items, such as the weapons of previous kings, that Noctis must collect no matter what.
Dark_castle
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If this was the faster mode, then I wonder what they'll do with a slower mode?
Characters and enemies are both permanently inflicted with 'Slow' status by default.
Exentryk
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Would look really weird though, so I don't think it'll be that.
That's exactly it.
MultiJhonny
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I don't think there is a slower mode. I think what Tabata meant by that is going to be more button holding rather than timing and technacality with each press.
Dark_castle
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I was just joking. That would be incredibly stupid. D;
Death Penalty
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We should really wait for more details next month. If magic items would be limited, there should have been a number below the icon showing "how much" is left, shouldn't it? Btw, I just checked and Noctis didn't lose MP after using Fire.
That was actually my exact thought, Koozek. He describes the magic system as though you extract elements and then use them to craft spells. Though there isn't a system to level up magic, some spells will simply be more powerful. It sounds to me like it's POSSIBLE (if not necessarily likely) that you craft a spell like a weapon and use it until you find yourself able to find/craft a more powerful version of that weapon. The absence of an indicator for "ammo" was pretty conspicuous to me.
Stumpled upon this, regarding the FFVIII Draw comparisons:
Well that settles it. My curiosity remains up!
I am dying to know how summoning will work in the final game as well.
MoogleWizard
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Combat looks great and messy at the same time. I'll have to see how it actually feels to play it. The animations are amazing.
BossDarkseid
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Nothing since Tabata said they'd prioritize 30fps over IQ, i think. Although usually its the other way round so I'm probably wrong. There's no reason they can't do 1080p/30fps though with optimization and the like, but I'd take a slight hit for shadows on grass. Which is a worthy pet peeve of mine
That said I've just seen the gamersyde version of the video..I know some of the base enemies are level 6/7 or so but they seem in general less tanky compared to Duscae enemies. Seems good.
The TGS trailer just says "She's got something for me", not a ring. Or did Tabata spoil that in some interview?
There's artwork where Luna is holding a ring with Insomnia in fire & wrecked in the background + we know Noctis doesn't have the ring from the start. So speculation, but not without some basis.
I think Tabata has said that they reached 1080p on PS4 but it wasn't running smoothly at the time he said that so he wouldn't commit to the final game being 1080p. Still, if they feel they can't get the game to run at a smooth 30fps throughout the game in 1080p, they'll rather drop the resolution than keep it while framerate suffers. He's made it clear that framerate is a priority.
Earthpainting
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I get suspicious when stuff becomes consumable and needs to be farmed in modern games. I better not see cool-down timers and microtransactions for magic, Square.
AzureFlame
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I don't think the game will look like that when it releases on consoles, i hope im wrong.
DrROBschiz
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So just watched this
Wtf is this game going to be. There is so much going on
I hate to say it but Im not sure if Im going to enjoy this as a mechanical RPG
it has plenty of spectacle to spare i guess
Wtf is this game going to be. There is so much going on
I hate to say it but Im not sure if Im going to enjoy this as a mechanical RPG
it has plenty of spectacle to spare i guess
It's an open-world(ish) flashy action RPG taking place in a fairly modern (still fantasy) setting that'll have some side-quests/-activities that will put you into different kinds of situations, like hunting a dangerous behemoth, racing with chocobos or wrecking shit in Niflheim's army's bases.
DrROBschiz
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yeah Ive played the demo which was alright
Its a pretty awkward game.
I will give them props for making something Ive never seen before in the JRPG space
Its a pretty awkward game.
I will give them props for making something Ive never seen before in the JRPG space
Dark_castle
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Which is why I think the latest footage is actually underselling its core mechanics, because most of battles happen very quickly in the form of flashy action. I could make a list of confirmed game mechanics for FFXV to prove that it actually had quite a bit of auxiliary system for player to learn, use and master, but I'm too lazy to do that right now.
I think the story will be complete crap, but the battle system is actually quite promising from what I've came to understand. It all boils down to execution.
Dragon1893
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Or in old RE games. "That grenade launcher ammo certainly would've made certain parts of the game easier..."
DrROBschiz
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It looks like it changed a bit from the demo
Now you manually switch weapons on the fly?
I wasnt a fan of the rubber band animations and attacks in the demo. Locking on almost made it harder to hit enemies as they moved around so much. Coupled with the camera swinging... was really hard to get used to basic combat
Hopefully they can lock down the mechanics so that they scale with player skill in a smooth way
TheOfficeMut
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I'm open to trying out this battle system, but can we please get another FF game with the battle system of FFX-2?
Episode Duscae was a very unfinished build of the game. Not only were a lot of the basics far from polished to their final level of quality, they removed big features like magic, aerial combat & party control altogether. They've since drastically changed how certain things work (all seem to be for the better). It's no wonder some enemies were a bit hard to fight when you can't even do half of the things you will be able to do in the final game & the camera was actively fighting against you.
The final game should be far less "awkward", with all of it actually finished & in their state of full functionality. So Noctis should probably feel more responsive to control, the camera seems much improved, you've got access to far more skills & have some control over your partner AIs doings etc.
EDIT: I mean, let's take your complaint about fast moving enemies who are hard to hit in Episode Duscae. In the final game you should be able to slow them down with ice magic, you can maybe order a team mate to use some skill that stops them for long enough that you can hit them good and the camera seems like it is much better at following the enemies when locked on to them, so you have a better idea of what is happening on the battleground altogether and enemies shouldn't just be jumping in and out of your view. These few simple things will make fighting fast moving enemies far better.
I've gone trough the code of the Uncovered FFXV website and I've found some interesting bits in the Javascript file (http://www.finalfantasyxv.com/uncovered/js/main.js)
There are PC retail/Steam Store links suggesting a PC release is under way.
More pages are being prepared for the website, including a Trailer, Schedule, FAQ, Livestream, What/About and Travel pages. Now only the Home page seems live.
PC version seems to be happening, not that unexpected really.
There are PC retail/Steam Store links suggesting a PC release is under way.
More pages are being prepared for the website, including a Trailer, Schedule, FAQ, Livestream, What/About and Travel pages. Now only the Home page seems live.
PC version seems to be happening, not that unexpected really.
Vincent Grayson
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I've gone trough the code of the Uncovered FFXV website and I've found some interesting bits in the Javascript file (http://www.finalfantasyxv.com/uncovered/js/main.js)
There are PC retail/Steam Store links suggesting a PC release is under way.
More pages are being prepared for the website, including a Trailer, Schedule, FAQ, Livestream, What/About and Travel pages. Now only the Home page seems live.
PC version seems to be happening, not that unexpected really.
Oh man, that'd be so fucking sweet. If it's not day and date, I'd still end up getting it on PS4 though.
Well damn. Nice find, maybe even thread worthy?
Ghost Slayer
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I've gone trough the code of the Uncovered FFXV website and I've found some interesting bits in the Javascript file (http://www.finalfantasyxv.com/uncovered/js/main.js)
There are PC retail/Steam Store links suggesting a PC release is under way.
More pages are being prepared for the website, including a Trailer, Schedule, FAQ, Livestream, What/About and Travel pages. Now only the Home page seems live.
PC version seems to be happening, not that unexpected really.
Detective GAF do it again. Tks man
MultiJhonny
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Can't say I am surprised to see a PC release. I am curious to see though if it actually releases at the same time as it on consoles.
ãInaba Residentã
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^ I wonder how much of that they'll be able to get back when porting to console.
It was already downgraded but if they can hit ED quality with solid 30fps, I'll be good.
It was already downgraded but if they can hit ED quality with solid 30fps, I'll be good.
The Last One
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That may be the case, but I still think they will announce a PC version eventually.
DiipuSurotu
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I've gone trough the code of the Uncovered FFXV website and I've found some interesting bits in the Javascript file (http://www.finalfantasyxv.com/uncovered/js/main.js)
There are PC retail/Steam Store links suggesting a PC release is under way.
More pages are being prepared for the website, including a Trailer, Schedule, FAQ, Livestream, What/About and Travel pages. Now only the Home page seems live.
PC version seems to be happening, not that unexpected really.
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