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[Amir0x]

Yeah, a 5 point spread bodes well for Super Tuesday.

I just hope now that we have that behind us, some people gained greater insights into the reality of the process, and they vote Hillary in the GE.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

i know exit poll but

damn

Dat diversity.

 

[mreddie]

 

[GK86]

I'm friends with Sanders supporters. I go to school with Sanders supporters.

To a person, every last one of them has told a flabbergasted me that they'd rather not vote than vote for Hillary.

Anecdotal, sure. But it's what feeds my feelings of being ashamed of my fellow liberals.

Bernie supporter here. I would rather not vote for her. I will vote for her, but only because I feel I HAVE to.

 

[Bluekaveli]

i know exit poll but




damn

Lol well what can I say

 

[SolarPowered]

I'd rather not vote for Hillary either, but I don't see much of a choice. It sucks that voting needs to feel and be done in this way.

Her and Bernie's voting records are nearly identical...

All I ask is that President Clinton tosses some suits in prison next time Wall Street decides to fuck with America's economy. I legitimately believe that this was one of the reasons people lost their enthusiasm for Obama. The bailouts ("Privatizing Profits And Socializing Losses") with no bite were a serious sore point for Americans that has lead to the distrust in the democratic and republican parties to this day. We can clearly see it in Trump and Sanders' populism. Trump just takes a big old scoop of rascism/xenophobia and plops it right onto the plate.

 

[Yoda]

So the answer is to hand the election to people who, even if pressed on those issues, will spit in your face, call you a hippie, and have you arrested?

Good idea.

Because that's what I stated right? Having a disagreement, and pressing an issue == electing a conservative? Stop with the fear-mongering please.

 

[Orbis Tabula]

What's the best free stream to watch for SC if you don't have cable?

 

[Kyosaiga]

There is an establishment that backs Hillary, the huge numbers of Dems, the huge amount of corps, the huge portion of the media is that establishment.

They are lock step in their message that overwhelmingly tries to dispel any notion of Wall Street reform in the bigger sense, any notion of healthcare reform, any notion of social justice in general as not only not being plausible in the current congress, but not actually working in general in society. Hell, 99% of them don't even think money in politics as corruption even exists, and actively try to dispel that notion, Hillary included.

That is fucking dangerous to the average person as a viewpoint.

There's so much straight up bullshit and literally made up facts in this post I don't know where to begin.

 

[Wilsongt]

i know exit poll but




damn

Fuck this election cycle. Goddamn.

 

[Cipherr]

Nate Cohn ‏@Nate_Cohn 3m3 minutes ago Washington, DC
In 5 majority black precincts, Clinton has an 84 to 4 delegate lead over Sanders.

Pretty much what I expected. It's all anecdotal, but I personally saw nothing showing me that he had been gaining much at all with the black vote over the last few months.

Hillary winning thanks to black support is interesting. Expecting diet racist analysises from Bernie supporters saying "they just don't know better" in the near future.

I was never worried. It's been clear to be that she will be the one in the general for a long time. But the above quote is all I'm going to dread as folks come to realize that she will win the nom. I have about had it with that demeaning "black voters don't know what they are doing" bullshit; and I think it's going to ratchet to wild levels over the next month or two before finally subsiding.

The good thing is that it has made me step back and realize I am guilty of saying similar things about conservative voters. So there's an opportunity for self betterment there at least.

 

[br3wnor]

So relieved with Clinton's result today. Hopefully she'll crush SC and carry the momentum into Super Tuesday so that we can end this and start prepping for the general election. Great job Nevada

 

[makingmusic476]

I'm friends with Sanders supporters. I go to school with Sanders supporters.

To a person, every last one of them has told a flabbergasted me that they'd rather not vote than vote for Hillary.

Anecdotal, sure. But it's what feeds my feelings of being ashamed of my fellow liberals.

Edit: Just asked my friend here and his wife. He said he'd vote for her but "through tears" and she just nodded. So I guess it's not everyone...

I will vote for her if she is the nominee.

 

[Gordon Shumway]

People just need to be civil with each other. all want the same thing in the end

Considering how many folks are talking sitting it out or voting for Trump? No, we all clearly don't want the same thing. People are gonna be fucked..

 

[Future]

I'm friends with Sanders supporters. I go to school with Sanders supporters.

To a person, every last one of them has told a flabbergasted me that they'd rather not vote than vote for Hillary.

Anecdotal, sure. But it's what feeds my feelings of being ashamed of my fellow liberals.

Sadly not uncommon with young people. You need fucking voodoo to get them to vote. It's why republicans always win congress... Young people barely know there is even an election, and too young to understand the consequences of anything

 

[GoldenEye 007]

If Trump wins in SC after going in hard on Bush-9/11-Iraq, goddamn. I mean, we all saw it. He did not hold back.

 

[aeolist]

All I ask is that President Clinton tosses some suits in prison next time Wall Street decides to fuck with America's economy. I legitimately believe that this was one of the reasons people lost their enthusiasm for Obama. The bailouts ("Privatizing Profits And Socializing Losses") with no bite were a serious sore point for Americans that has lead to the distrust in the democratic and republican parties to this day. We can clearly see it in Trump and Sanders' populism.

sanders wouldn't be able to throw anyone into prison for what happened in 2007 either. that was the whole problem, it wasn't against the law to begin with.

 

[Tubie]

Please hold!

 

[Blader]

her campaign claimed that the sanders healthcare plan would get rid of obamacare and that's somehow a bad thing

As disingenuous as that claim is, and as much as it annoys me to the bone every time she says it, that's hardly the same thing as trying to dispel the need for healthcare reform. The ACA, even in its compromised state, is still reform and building on it as she has repeatedly said she would do would be further reform.

 

[Meowster]

This entire election cycle has opened my eyes to how many on the left who like to consider themselves progressive really are not that much better than often demonized racists and bigots on the far right. One group wants to throw me off the boat, the other is fine with letting the boat sink with me in it (since they're in a life raft). It's rather frustrating, and this is the first election where I'm finding myself exhausted even before the GE.

I'm hoping that a lot of what we see online doesn't translate to reality. As a gay individual, things have gotten dramatically better for me under President Obama's office than any I've ever lived through in the past (which, granted, is only Clinton and Bush). But seeing how awful things started to get towards the end of the Bush administration to the radicalism of the Tea Party in recent years.. god, I honestly don't even want to think about what kind of plans would be set back. We all have to stand together and help each other.

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

Change and progress is often slow, painful and bitter ass pill to swallow. It's much easier to undo things.

Do I agree with most things Bernie says? Yes of course. I think most liberals do. But I also understand his grand ideas just aren't realistic right now. Maybe in 20 years, but not right now.

Exactly. Sanders' politics will look right wing in a few decades if we keep fighting to move forward. But we need to move forward. Handing the Presidency to the GOP is not that.

 

[UraMallas]

Everything I've read about Hillarycare didn't make it look like a single-payer plan in the slightest.

I could be wrong, but I think the Hillarycare was single-payer and the conservative alternative (at the time) is Obamacare.

 

[Cheebo]

Yep. And if he beats Rubio he can point to two times he's beaten him in a primary.

Except he clearly is distant 4th in SC from exit polling and early numbers.

 

[Kyosaiga]

as a person that lives on the border of SC


Sounds about right.

Georgia or NC?

 

[Ashodin]

Trump:

We're gonna win

and we're gonna win

and we're gonna win

and we're gonna win

 

[Black Republican]

Bush and co did nothing, yikes

 

[Future]

Please hold!

Ben Carson where he should be. He rarely has anything at all to say. The fact he was once a front runner was some true insanity right there

 

[lastflowers]

I'd rather not vote for Hillary either, but I don't see much of a choice. It sucks that voting needs to feel and be done in this way.

All I ask is that President Clinton tosses some suits in prison next time Wall Street decides to fuck with America's economy. I legitimately believe that this was one of the reasons people lost their enthusiasm for Obama. The bailouts ("Privatizing Profits And Socializing Losses") with no bite were a serious sore point for Americans that has lead to the distrust in the democratic and republican parties to this day. We can clearly see it in Trump and Sanders' populism.

what the dnc doesn't learn will bite them in the ass one of these days.

 

[Raxus]

Trump:

We're gonna win

and we're gonna win

and we're gonna win

and we're gonna win

RNC is setting up a ludicrous fire insurance policy in the meantime in case an 'accident' befalls the convention.

 

[danm999]

Except he clearly is distant 4th in SC from exit polling and early numbers.

Why I said if. If he comes in 4th, the calls for him to get out will become deafening.

 

[kirblar]

Everything I've read about Hillarycare didn't make it look like a single-payer plan in the slightest.

No update to the US's previously existing plan would ever be a single-payer plan because it would be too wrenching of a change based on the infrastructure we currently have.

You can't just bulldoze something and build something new there- you have to keep operations going.

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

Because that's what I stated right? Having a disagreement, and pressing an issue == electing a conservative? Stop with the fear-mongering please.

Apologies. Emotions are high.

I'm better now.

 

[mcfrank]

If the Republicans have any hope of Trump not being their nominee, they should be pushing Bush and Kasich to drop out an endorse Rubio so hard. Need it to be a 3 man race before Florida, or Trump walks away with this.

 

[mo60]

I don't see why Jeb Bush would drop out if he's right there with Rubio fighting for third.

Let's hope the race between both is tight in SC, but I doubt it.Rubio won't get past third in SC anyway and maybe even future states.

 

[Bronx-Man]

Thankfully, polling shows that both candidates are even more-admired than Obama and Hillary were with each others' supporters at this point in 2008. We're just seeing a very loud, whiny minority online.

Bingo. Once Trump gets the nomination, people are gonna jump ship to Hillary just to prevent his dumb ass from being president.

 

[Agent_Carnage]

I am glad Clinton won Nevada. Now to crush it in SC and all the way to the White House

Tonight will be the last night of Benny Carsons Campaign. Press F to pay respects....

 

[balladofwindfishes]

If the Republicans have any hope of Trump not being their nominee, they should be pushing Bush and Kasich to drop out an endorse Rubio so hard. Need it to be a 3 man race before Florida, or Trump walks away with this.

Neither will drop out before Super Tuesday, since there's states there that both feel they can win.

And after that will be too late for anyone to catch up to Trump.

 

[aeolist]

As disingenuous as that claim is, and as much as it annoys me to the bone every time she says it, that's hardly the same thing as trying to dispel the need for healthcare reform. The ACA, even in its compromised state, is still reform and building on it as she has repeatedly said she would do would be further reform.

the only acceptable solution long-term is single payer medicare-style coverage for everyone. anything else is a band-aid that does almost as much harm as good.

and i haven't really heard anything from her on this subject that's anything more than the status quo.

 

[EatinOlives]

So I should just implicitly trust someone with several ties to corporate America to appoint justices that are actually going to be friendly to consumer and workers' rights?

Yeah sorry I can't do it. I won't vote for a Republican but I'm not supporting the corporate owned status quo.

You do realize Bernie himself vehemently disagrees with your mentality, right?

 

[mcfrank]

Neither will drop out before Super Tuesday, since there's states there that both feel they can win.

Not saying they will, but if they don't then Trump is the nominee for sure.

 

[MHWilliams]

I would rather not vote for her. I will vote for her, but only because I feel I HAVE to.

I get that. I understand feeling like you have no option.

And if it comes to that, stay involved, stay active. Make sure that the turnout stays high local races and midterms. Vote in the candidates that you feel align with Sanders, because there should be a number of them after this primary. I suspect we'll see an influx of young politicians.

Change is possible, but it's a long road, not a quick sprint.

Sanders wins the primary, cool. Sanders doesn't, then people need to realize there is so much at stake for a ton of people whose very rights and right to live are in question if a Republican enters the White House and is able to choose multiple Justices in the Supreme Court.

We're not up against another side that's benign. We're up against this nonsense:

And that's frightening.

 

[MetalGearZed]

does Carson even campaign? it seems like i dont see him anywhere else except the debates.

 

[Clefargle]

Everything I've read about Hillarycare didn't make it look like a single-payer plan in the slightest.

You can have universal without single payer, look at the Netherlands

 

[Rubenov]

Bingo. Once Trump gets the nomination, people are gonna jump ship to Hillary just to prevent his dumb ass from being president.

Perfect scenario.

 

[Blader]

If the Republicans have any hope of Trump not being their nominee, they should be pushing Bush and Kasich to drop out an endorse Rubio so hard. Need it to be a 3 man race before Florida, or Trump walks away with this.

Kasich has no incentive to drop out. His eye has always been on the midwest states (especially Ohio and Michigan), and was always writing off SC as an inevitable loss.

I don't know where the hell Jeb goes from here if he doesn't drop.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

does Carson even campaign? it seems like i dont see him anywhere else except the debates.

He's just in it to sell books and get hits on his website. Once they stop letting in debates, he'll duck out.

He's not going to waste money campaigning, winning the primary isn't his goal.

Kasich has no incentive to drop out. His eye has always been on the midwest states (especially Ohio and Michigan), and was always writing off SC as an inevitable loss.

I don't know where the hell Jeb goes from here if he doesn't drop.

Jeb has too much pride, and Florida, to drop out. He's sunk too much money into this, it would be pretty hard for him to pack up at this point.

 

[Mecha]

Looking forward to the inevitable Carson withdrawal.

 

[Leona Lewis]

If the Republicans have any hope of Trump not being their nominee, they should be pushing Bush and Kasich to drop out an endorse Rubio so hard. Need it to be a 3 man race before Florida, or Trump walks away with this.

Especially now that Rubio is polling 2nd in SC right now (22% to Trump's 33%).

The longer Bush and Kasich stay in the race, the less credibility the GOP "establishment" have to rally around a Trump alternative because the people will have spoken by then.

 

[Bronx-Man]

does Carson even campaign? it seems like i dont see him anywhere else except the debates.

He's just using this whole election to promote his book. The minute he doesn't qualify for a debate, he's exiting the race immediately.

 

[mcfrank]

Both CNN folks on right now are wearing Apple Watches. I guess they are not Trump supporters