Frozen Synapse Tournament - Ongoing, incl. Video Footage!

Am I crazy or did there used to be snipers in multiplayer matches? Were they removed from the map generator? I can't imagine they were OP as I remember them being pretty much worse machinegunners.
 
Group: B
Player A: Jazzerman // Win // Killed Soldiers: 4 // Lost Soldiers: 0
Player B: Instro // Loss // Killed Soldiers: 0 // Lost Soldiers: 4
Game ID: 1340492

Group: B
Player A: Jazzerman // Win // Killed Soldiers: 4 // Lost Soldiers: 0
Player B: OmegaDragon // Loss // Killed Soldiers: 0 // Lost Soldiers: 4
Game ID: 1340687
 
A Sentient Keyboard said:
Am I crazy or did there used to be snipers in multiplayer matches? Were they removed from the map generator? I can't imagine they were OP as I remember them being pretty much worse machinegunners.
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There still are in other game modes. Dark Extermination was completely cleansed from extra units though. There are even Shield units in other modes.
 
Group: A
Player A: Volodja // Win // Killed Soldiers: 4 // Lost Soldiers: 0
Player B: Wok // Loss // Killed Soldiers: 0 // Lost Soldiers: 4
Game ID: 1340067

Group: A
Player A: Volodja // Win // Killed Soldiers: 2 // Lost Soldiers: 1
Player B: Wok // Loss // Killed Soldiers: 1 // Lost Soldiers: 2
Game ID: 1340649

Don't have a way to post it to youtube.
Also, I'm sorry it took so long for me to play my turns, but I had a pretty eventful week.

The first match is a pretty action packed 3 turn deal with my rockets doing some impressive damage.
The second match is basically a positional/stare at walls match because we had only gunners, but Wok manages to get one of his men in a pretty cool covert-ops mission.
Good games.

Also answered Codeblue's turn and sent a challenge to Skab as well.
 
Group: B
Player A: titch71 // Win // Killed Soldiers: 4 // Lost Soldiers: 1
Player B: Instro // Loss // Killed Soldiers: 1 // Lost Soldiers: 4
Game ID: 1340032

Game could have went either way but i got lucky IMO.
 
Edit: took out the summary of the games with Codeblue to avoid confusion for Toma


First game ended up being locked into turn after turn of mantaining position, we barely saw each other's units all match.
Second got a brutal turn 2 that cost me 3 soldiers, I badly misread his movements and ended up paying for it.
Good games, Codeblue.
 
Group: A
Player A: Codeblue // Win // Killed Soldiers: 3 // Lost Soldiers: 1
Player B: Wok // Loss // Killed Soldiers: 1 // Lost Soldiers: 3
Game ID: 1340026
Youtube Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R02cSEQjGxQ

Group: A
Player A: Codeblue // Draw // Killed Soldiers: 1 // Lost Soldiers: 1
Player B: Volodja // Draw // Killed Soldiers: 1 // Lost Soldiers: 1
Game ID: 1340029
Youtube Link: https://youtu.be/M679bTNJxLs

Group: A
Player A: Codeblue // Win // Killed Soldiers: 4 // Lost Soldiers: 0
Player B: Volodja // Loss // Killed Soldiers: 0 // Lost Soldiers: 4
Game ID: 1340780
Youtube Link: https://youtu.be/XTjnV6DSf1o

Luckiest round 2 of my life in that last game.

Edit: that's what I get for not refreshing the thread. GGs Volodja!
 
What a mess that game 2 was, if I had done my original idea of having my Granadier shoot a granade into the room next to him making it bounce on the door, I may have actually survived, instead that Gunner at top got 2 kills, damn.

Also, I messed up my Shotgunner movement, I think I didn't pay enough attention because I was sure he had vision of the door of the room in the top-middle so I really didn't expect you to show up with both gunners on the left because I didn't see your Gunner pass through there.

And that dude on the left should've been put on ignore enemy contacts until he got into cover, maybe, I was sure he could actually cover that side.

Oh, well. Sometimes you just get wiped.
 
Group: B
Player A: Instro // Win // Killed Soldiers: 4 // Lost Soldiers: 1
Player B: OmegaDragon // Loss // Killed Soldiers: 1 // Lost Soldiers: 4
Game ID: 1340488


titch said:
Group: B
Player A: titch71 // Win // Killed Soldiers: 4 // Lost Soldiers: 1
Player B: Instro // Loss // Killed Soldiers: 1 // Lost Soldiers: 4
Game ID: 1340032

Game could have went either way but i got lucky IMO.
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I really regret that first move lol.
 
Corto said:
Hey Accent, GG too. I was biting my nails after the second round hehehe Great game. I think your shotgun guy got caught on the wall perhaps? Have you had some news from the other guys? And if you don't mind could you please upload the game then, I didn't record it or upload it myself.
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Here it is:

Group: D
Player A: Acccent // Loss // Killed Soldiers: 1 // Lost Soldiers: 3
Player B: Corto // Win // Killed Soldiers: 3 // Lost Soldiers: 1
Game ID: 1340429
Youtube Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8kmXx3-J74


The issue isn't really that the shotgun hits the wall... this only happens if the target is far away and moving, and then the shitgun guy shoots again and hits; here the target is close and stands still, so the shot should have hit. (And like we've said before, the visuals of the bullets aren't representative of what's actually happening haha.) The reason it didn't is because your machinegun kills the shotgunner right before the shot goes through, but it's soooo close that the game still renders the bullets and audio of the shotgun firing :P
 
Group: A
Player A: Codeblue // Win // Killed Soldiers: 4 // Lost Soldiers: 0
Player B: Wok // Loss // Killed Soldiers: 0 // Lost Soldiers: 4
Game ID: 1340774
Youtube Link: https://youtu.be/IbUU2JEfr8Y

Had an incredible first turn, followed by my shotgun beating Wok's for no discernible reason. That wraps up the group stage for me though. Can't wait to see how the brackets shake out.

Skab said:
Code are you going to upload our games or should I?

(Still in progress vs Wok and Volodja.)
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I uploaded them. They're somewhere in this thread.
 
Group: A
Player A: Volodja // Win // Killed Soldiers: 3 // Lost Soldiers: 0
Player B: Skab // Loss // Killed Soldiers: 0 // Lost Soldiers: 3
Game ID: 1340636

Group: A
Player A: Volodja // Draw // Killed Soldiers: 1 // Lost Soldiers: 1
Player B: Skab // Draw // Killed Soldiers: 1 // Lost Soldiers: 1
Game ID: 1340908

First game was a quick bloodbath with my rockets getting some good damage in (another match of 2 rocket kills).
Second game I got a pretty favorable position at the top of the board that net me an easy first blood, however I squandered it by moving one gunner in a bad spot too early, after that we found ourselves with 1 Shotgunner and 1 Gunner each and he had both of them close in a room with cover on all sides so I couldn't find an actually safe way to break that position.
Looking at the replay I think it's good I didn't try to, it would've been a coin toss as to wether or not I would've chosen the right approach.
GGs Skab.

Also, that should lock the top 2 for group A as Codeblue for first and me for second.
 
I've won one match with Balthuk but the game crashes every time I try to upload the game to youtube. Could you please upload it Balthuk?
 
Group: D
Player A: Corto // Win // Killed Soldiers: 4 // Lost Soldiers: 1
Player B: Balthuk // Loss // Killed Soldiers: 1 // Lost Soldiers: 4
Game ID: 1340463

I wasn't able to upload the match to youtube. The game crashed every time I tried.
 
Kalor said:
Frozen Synapse 2 is being shown here right now for those curious about it.
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Yo this is some awesome shit. A massive grand strategy layer for the single player is exactly what I would have wanted. Naming dropping Alpha Centauri as the ideal for faction interaction is very hype inducing. New level design is fantastic too.
 
Corto said:
I wasn't able to upload the match to youtube. The game crashed every time I tried.
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Yeah, the upload seldom works. Like I said it's better to either record it locally and then upload it by yourself, or even record it using OBS (which allows you to have a better quality) and then also upload it on your account manually.
 
Updated the google doc.

We got our first elimination round participants!

Group A:
1. Codeblue - 16 points (5/0/1) - 17:3
2. Volodja - 11 points (3/2/1) - 11:7

Group B:
1. or 2. Jazzerman - 12 points (4/0/0) - 16:2

Group C:
If Inertia and ArtofWar stay inactive:
1. Vlad - 10 points (3/1/1) - 12:10
2. kalor - 7 points (2/1/1) - 7:4

Group D:
No one yet

Group E:
No one yet

Group F:
No one yet

Group G:
1. or 2. Najaf - 12 points (4/0/0) - 16:2

Group H:
If electricpirate and krpiper dont play their games:
1. A sentient Keyboard - 3 points (1/0/1) - 5:4
2. The_Super_Inframan - 3 points (1/0/1) - 4:5
 
Jazzerman and Najaf are currently the hottest bets in the tournament.

46/104 matches played, but if I take the players into account that did not start playing the tournament yet: 46/74 matches played.

Seems like we are on track. :)
 
Acccent said:
Toma, where do you save the links to the second games? (if you have them at all :P )
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What do you mean? All Youtube links for all games are in the document.
 
Toma said:
What do you mean? All Youtube links for all games are in the document.
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Well, for instance I played two games against Corto, so that's a total of 4 games for me if I'm not mistaken, and there are only three yt links in my row. So I'm wondering if you're copying them somewhere else :)

(Also, I just noticed that I forgot to replace 'Loss' with 'Win' for Corto in the second game summary I posted, please make sure you put it correctly in the doc; we each have one win and one loss against each other)
 
Acccent said:
Well, for instance I played two games against Corto, so that's a total of 4 games for me if I'm not mistaken, and there are only three yt links in my row. So I'm wondering if you're copying them somewhere else :)

(Also, I just noticed that I forgot to replace 'Loss' with 'Win' for Corto in the second game summary I posted, please make sure you put it correctly in the doc; we each have one win and one loss against each other)
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Yeah, I saw the Loss/Loss mistake.

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Your games are always listed in one vertical and one horizontal row.
 
Group: D
Player A: Corto // Win // Killed Soldiers: 3 // Lost Soldiers: 0
Player B: Balthuk // Loss // Killed Soldiers: 0 // Lost Soldiers: 3
Game ID: 1340968

Group: D
Player A: Corto // Loss // Killed Soldiers: 1 // Lost Soldiers: 4
Player B: n8BitMan // Win // Killed Soldiers: 4 // Lost Soldiers: 1
Game ID: 1340736

Sorry again, but I wasn't able to upload the matches as the game keeps crashing on me when I try to upload or record locally, and now even submitting my turns is a chore with disconnects from the grand server that force me to quit and restart the game several times just to submit them. Good thing I'm having fun playing the game or I would give up already. hehe
 
Toma said:
Jazzerman and Najaf are currently the hottest bets in the tournament.
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I don't know, from my own personal experience, I'd put my money on A Sentient Keyboard/ImmoralWombat. From the savage beatings informative practice matches that he's provided me with, I'm thinking he's going to be quite the force going forward.
 
I was wondering something earlier today. Anyone knows what happens when two identical units sart firing at each other at the exact same time? Is a simultaneous kill possible?

...Anyone wanna try it out purposefully on a generated symmetrical map?
 
Acccent said:
I was wondering something earlier today. Anyone knows what happens when two identical units sart firing at each other at the exact same time? Is a simultaneous kill possible?

...Anyone wanna try it out purposefully on a generated symmetrical map?
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Simulatenous kills happen. It happened in one of my games.
 
Acccent said:
I was wondering something earlier today. Anyone knows what happens when two identical units sart firing at each other at the exact same time? Is a simultaneous kill possible?

...Anyone wanna try it out purposefully on a generated symmetrical map?
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Its supposed to be a double kill, but there seems to be some issues with the shotgunners atm.
 
Group: B
Player A: Jazzerman // Win // Killed Soldiers: 4 // Lost Soldiers: 1
Player B: titch71 // Loss // Killed Soldiers: 1 // Lost Soldiers: 4
Game ID: 1340688
 
Acccent said:
Oh okay.

New result:

Group: D
Player A: Acccent // Win // Killed Soldiers: 3 // Lost Soldiers: 0
Player B: Balthuk // Loss // Killed Soldiers: 0 // Lost Soldiers: 3
Game ID: 1341264
Youtube Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wLb-8EWmLk
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Talking about 2 shotgunners firing at the same time, did this kinda happen here? I mean I know my shotgunner was moving so I should lose the trade. So maybe the shooting animation for my shotgunner shouldn't have occured?
GG btw, solid plays.
 
Balthuk said:
Talking about 2 shotgunners firing at the same time, did this kinda happen here? I mean I know my shotgunner was moving so I should lose the trade. So maybe the shooting animation for my shotgunner shouldn't have occured?
GG btw, solid plays.
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ty! gg to you as well :) and, the animation often happens even when the shot doesn't, or does but misses. But in this case I think yours does shoot, it's probably something like this:
  1. both shotgunners see each other
  2. both fire at the same time, the animation reflects that
  3. the game calculates that yours was moving and mine wasn't so mine wins the duel
  4. your shotgunner dies and the death animation is triggered
  5. even though both units fired and both their firing animations happened, since the game decided that mine should win the duel, only yours die even if the bullets seem to hit my unit as well; the animation is purely visual candy
 
Acccent said:
ty! gg to you as well :) and, the animation often happens even when the shot doesn't, or does but misses. But in this case I think yours does shoot, it's probably something like this:
  1. both shotgunners see each other
  2. both fire at the same time, the animation reflects that
  3. the game calculates that yours was moving and mine wasn't so mine wins the duel
  4. your shotgunner dies and the death animation is triggered
  5. even though both units fired and both their firing animations happened, since the game decided that mine should win the duel, only yours die even if the bullets seem to hit my unit as well; the animation is purely visual candy
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Correct, standing still shotgunner > all. That scene worked fine.
 
Acccent said:
ty! gg to you as well :) and, the animation often happens even when the shot doesn't, or does but misses. But in this case I think yours does shoot, it's probably something like this:
  1. both shotgunners see each other
  2. both fire at the same time, the animation reflects that
  3. the game calculates that yours was moving and mine wasn't so mine wins the duel
  4. your shotgunner dies and the death animation is triggered
  5. even though both units fired and both their firing animations happened, since the game decided that mine should win the duel, only yours die even if the bullets seem to hit my unit as well; the animation is purely visual candy
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Yeah that's what I thought. Interesting programming issue, if this kind of thing could ever be coded around. Maybe if the game first decided who wins, then started animating?
 
Najaf said:
Took the liberty of doing a commentary on Toma V Archnemesis. Skilled players and an interesting map layout. This may be valuable for some as we move beyond the group stage.

https://youtu.be/-x-if8OHhks
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Thanks for the video, I found it extremely interesting to see how you would judge the map. I think the shotgunner was bugged, but I am not complaining. Its a bug we all have to live with atm. :)
Was a fun match either way.
 
Another match done, this was a close one!

Group: G
Player A: Swarley64 // Win // Killed Soldiers: 3 // Lost Soldiers: 2
Player B: CzarTim // Loss // Killed Soldiers: 2 // Lost Soldiers: 3
Game ID: 1340455
Youtube Link: https://youtu.be/nQxyF6bjXPE

So now our group is finished, unless SteelAttack appears.
 
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