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If the trailers are anything to go by, I think DCCU movie #2 ends with a big superhero team up

The big team up between 3 people?

 

[#1 defender]

Yes he's seen it. He says it's a legit good movie. He gives a review in the DC Cinematic thread.

Thanks! I didn't want to go into that thread in fear of spoilers, but i found a link to his impressions on top of this page.

 

[Rooster12]

Suicide Squad doesn't look like it has anything to do with 99% of the other DC stuff, with only the Joker-connection to Batman.

 

[Inferno313]

If the trailers are anything to go by, I think DCCU movie #2 ends with a big superhero team up

Iron Man 2 had two of the Avengers teaming up.

Not that any of that matters though. Good stories are good stories. Just because something worked one way for Marvel doesn't mean it's the only way it could possibly work for DC.

 

[Sojgat]

You know this ain't true.

Large numbers of fans took quite awhile to arrive at the current narrative. There is no shortage of published autopsy on the phenomenon, even. MULTIPLE books documenting the arc of grief following a Star Wars movie not being very good.

I was in denial for years.

 

[Schweinehund]

When is the embargo lifted?

Tomorrow 6 est.

 

[Blader]

I'll just give one example of why I like Keaton's Bruce a little better than Bale's. Look at the scene where Bruce first tries to tell Vicki that he's Batman. Bruce straight up struggles to let the words "I'm Batman" come out of his mouth because that's a fucking huge bombshell to drop and it leaves him open emotionally. Ever try telling a secret to someone you care about and suddenly fumble over your words a bit? That made Keaton's Bruce feel a bit more human and in my opinion gave him a little depth because it felt like he was still a conflicted person internally (maybe I'm digging a little deep there, admittedly). .

See, I thought that whole scene felt pretty out of character.

 

[Sephzilla]

The big team up between 3 people?

It's the three core justice league members

Spoiler

and conveniently the only 3 that matter

 

[Error]

no one ever learns

it had great critical reception and went on to make a billion, what do you mean no one ever learns?

 

[Carlisle]

No. Terrio spent more time with the script.

Goyer only did a very very early draft (which is why he has a credit, typically the writer who completes the first draft is guaranteed a credit). What's on the screen is 90-95% Terrio.

Stop it, you're raising my expectations and filling me with hope and dreams. There's too much at stake if they get dashed.

 

[Walpurgis]

tomorrow

Tomorrow 6 est.

Thanks. I hope I wake up to good news.

 

[IconGrist]

it had great critical reception and went on to make a billion, what do you mean no one ever learns?

Pretty sure that was a play on the rest of the thread, lol.

Thanks. I hope I wake up to good news.

6PM EST. Not AM. They forgot to specify.

 

[Tadale]

I have no clue whether this movie is going to be good or not. Very interested to find out for myself.

 

[Unspeakable Evil]

I'm excited to see it on Saturday

 

[CrazyDude]

To be honest I don't really like either Batman performances all that much.

Spoiler

Kevin Conroy is the best Batman.

 

[Shaanyboi]

The big team up between 3 people?

I mean between three of the most recognizable pop culture icons, yeah.

 

[KillySG10]

To be fair DC are not even rushing it though. Compare the movie universe line ups:

1) Iron Man
2) Incredible Hulk
3) Iron Man 2
4) Thor
5) Captain America

**Avengers**

1) Man of Steel
2) Batman V Superman
3) Suicide Sqaud
4) Wonder Woman

**Justice League: Part 1**

1 film less in DC universe in build up to team up.

I suppose team up was the wrong way to describe it, what i meant was, most of the DC movie lineup is being built in this film, heroes appearing include: Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, The Flash, Aquaman, Cyborg and rumoured Green Lantern.

Where each hero got introduced in their own film by Marvel, it feels like DC is rushing them into this film just to get a similar type of movie-verse going.

And while i don't like the approach they're taking, i still want it to work, in the hopes we get decent adaptations of DC heroes other than Batman or Superman.

 

[Schweinehund]

Pretty sure that was a play on the rest of the thread, lol.



6PM EST. Not AM. They forgot to specify.

Thanks. I hope I wake up to good news.

Sorry I was wrong, it's 6 PM PST

They apparently changed it

https://twitter.com/colliderfrosty/status/710696195857915904

 

[Strangelove77]

Arent most early impressions generally positive? Even for shit movies?

Basically, Im still skeptical.

I didn't want to be the first dick to point this out, so thank you. first few reviews for almost any anticipated movie always sounds like Kevin Smith hyperbole despite the movie's actual quality.

I do kind of believe the Affleck thing though. I think he's going to do just fine.

 

[thecouncil]

only the best batman performances include outright murder:

i hope affleck delivers some wonderful kills.

 

[moggio]

Yeah, but what does Harry Knowles think about it?

 

[Shaanyboi]

I suppose team up was the wrong way to describe it, what i meant was, most of the DC movie lineup is being built in this film, heroes appearing include: Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, The Flash, Aquaman, Cyborg and rumoured Green Lantern.

Where each hero got introduced in their own film by Marvel, it feels like DC is rushing them into this film just to get a similar type of movie-verse going.

And while i don't like the approach they're taking, i still want it to work, in the hopes we get decent adaptations of DC heroes other than Batman or Superman.

You're putting too much stock into the importance of those other characters appearing.

Spoiler

Flash and Aquaman are cameos simply to acknowledge they exist. Nothing really substantial.
Cyborg only appears as Vic Stone (before he gets fused with any kind of tech)
Green Lantern isn't in the movie, and apparently may not appear until Justice League Part 2.

 

[Magwik]

I mean... he knows.

https://twitter.com/Uptomyknees/status/672300004120375296

https://twitter.com/Uptomyknees/status/672303792407207936

Max Landis full of himself. More at 11.

 

[shortsFortallPeople]

it had great critical reception and went on to make a billion, what do you mean no one ever learns?

A movie making money and being well received doesn't mean it isn't a flawed experience and worth of either.

My point anyhow was that every thread mentions the last film that had good early impressions and some folks keep forgetting that you can't rely on this stuff for decent, objective impressions.

 

[Messofanego]

He becomes a lot better if you erase Lex Luthor from your mind and assume that he's playing the true villain of the movie: Max Landis.

So Max Landis was angry that Superman allowed his city to be destroyed, and that pushed him into becoming the villain? Sounds legit.

I mean... he knows.

https://twitter.com/Uptomyknees/status/672300004120375296

https://twitter.com/Uptomyknees/status/672303792407207936

 

[Penguin]

You know what... I've already seen it.

So time to just sit back, relax and watch the end (or beginning) of this crazy train!

*Grabs popcorn and soda for the ride*

 

[Zantetsuken]

A movie making money and being well received doesn't mean it isn't a flawed experience and worth of either.

My point anyhow was that every thread mentions the last film that had good early impressions and some folks keep forgetting that you can't rely on this stuff for decent, objective impressions.

The only true impression you can rely on are your own two eyes. You can say this about any movie, especially comic book films (Ultron in particular).

 

[BronsonLee]

You know this ain't true.

Large numbers of fans took quite awhile to arrive at the current narrative. There is no shortage of published autopsy on the phenomenon, even. MULTIPLE books documenting the arc of grief following a Star Wars movie not being very good.

Are you going to write a book about TFA

 

[HeySeuss]

Why in the world are people hoping this movie is a shitpile? I'll never understand movie-GAFs ultra high standard of expectations when it comes to movies in general.

We live in a time where Deadpool actually happened and the MCU has 3 movies a year that are financially successful. Rocket Racoon is a character that is popular. Civil War is happening. Thanos is about to wreck shit.

Superman is back and now we get Batman vs Superman on the big screen. Suicide Squad and Doctor Strange are coming soon. This is literally the best time to be alive for comic fans in the history of ever. I'm a Marvel guy, but I want to see this and I hope it's good and I want it to be successful because Wonder Woman and Justice League are going to happen.

Lighten up and take a step back and enjoy it while it lasts, because like everything else, it will be over before we know what we really had. Then we'll be complaining that they don't do comic book movies anymore like they did in the glory years.

Get over it an just let yourself turn off the world and enjoy it for what it is.

 

[shortsFortallPeople]

The only true impression you can rely on are your own two eyes. You can say this about any movie, especially comic book films (Ultron in particular).

i mean yeah

but my impression could cost me like $50 (or more) in going out, getting reserved seats, paying for parking, buying dinner, etc.

So, i'd like to have an idea what im walking into beforehand or to even walk into it at all.

But that's fine, we get some reviews very soon and then folks will see it and we'll have forum members talking about it. It's just interesting to see the MoS early impressions thread with some hindsight now.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

I'm paying 6.50 for this thing, local college theater ftw

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Are you going to write a book about TFA

NOPE!

It's been suggested I pitch a book about the history of Star Wars fandom online, and how it more or less grew the current entertainment industry blogosphere as we know it. But that's a ton of work and I'd have to talk to a lot of really fucking unpleasant people, who also happen to be the only likely audience for said book.

 

[BronsonLee]

I'm paying nothing AND seeing it early

I'M SO SPECIAL

Spoiler

it's dirt easy to see this movie early

NOPE!

It's been suggested I pitch a book about the history of Star Wars fandom online, and how it more or less grew the current entertainment industry blogosphere as we know it. But that's a ton of work and I'd have to talk to a lot of really fucking unpleasant people, who also happen to be the only likely audience for said book.

Goddamnit Bobby!

 

[IconGrist]

NOPE!

It's been suggested I pitch a book about the history of Star Wars fandom online, and how it more or less grew the current entertainment industry blogosphere as we know it. But that's a ton of work and I'd have to talk to a lot of really fucking unpleasant people, who also happen to be the only likely audience for said book.

Lmao

 

[Magwik]

I'm paying nothing AND seeing it early

I'M SO SPECIAL

Spoiler

it's dirt easy to see this movie early

It was dirt easy. Watch them give out free swag tonight too again.

 

[Shaanyboi]

NOPE!

It's been suggested I pitch a book about the history of Star Wars fandom online, and how it more or less grew the current entertainment industry blogosphere as we know it. But that's a ton of work and I'd have to talk to a lot of really fucking unpleasant people, who also happen to be the only likely audience for said book.

lol

 

[Liquidsnake]

Why in the world are people hoping this movie is a shitpile? I'll never understand movie-GAFs ultra high standard of expectations when it comes to movies in general.

We live in a time where Deadpool actually happened and the MCU has 3 movies a year that are financially successful. Rocket Racoon is a character that is popular. Civil War is happening. Thanos is about to wreck shit.

Superman is back and now we get Batman vs Superman on the big screen. Suicide Squad and Doctor Strange are coming soon. This is literally the best time to be alive for comic fans in the history of ever. I'm a Marvel guy, but I want to see this and I hope it's good and I want it to be successful because Wonder Woman and Justice League are going to happen.

Lighten up and take a step back and enjoy it while it lasts, because like everything else, it will be over before we know what we really had. Then we'll be complaining that they don't do comic book movies anymore like they did in the glory years.

Get over it an just let yourself turn off the world and enjoy it for what it is.

Im just glad to be alive during all of this, its special. 50 years from now, this time period will be known as the Golden Age of Comic Movies. It will be a class in film majors.

And MOS will be analyzed for its layered, and in depth messages of philosophy. It will be looked at as the most complex.

That is my honest opinion.

 

[Cooter]

Why in the world are people hoping this movie is a shitpile? I'll never understand movie-GAFs ultra high standard of expectations when it comes to movies in general.

We live in a time where Deadpool actually happened and the MCU has 3 movies a year that are financially successful. Rocket Racoon is a character that is popular. Civil War is happening. Thanos is about to wreck shit.

Superman is back and now we get Batman vs Superman on the big screen. Suicide Squad and Doctor Strange are coming soon. This is literally the best time to be alive for comic fans in the history of ever. I'm a Marvel guy, but I want to see this and I hope it's good and I want it to be successful because Wonder Woman and Justice League are going to happen.

Lighten up and take a step back and enjoy it while it lasts, because like everything else, it will be over before we know what we really had. Then we'll be complaining that they don't do comic book movies anymore like they did in the glory years.

Get over it an just let yourself turn off the world and enjoy it for what it is.

100% with you. What a year for CBMs! Unfortunately it's an either or with many people. That and some people have an irrational hatred towards Snyder.

 

[Discotheque]

I think Bale's Bruce Wayne in TDK is pretty underrated.

he's fine in the entire trilogy. good even, it's just his batvoice got pretty corny and it didn't help that you had something like the joker to overshadow you not to mention two face and oldman's gordon getting some big scenes as well.

 

[Corpsepyre]

Lets not forget the first reactions to the new Fantastic Four as well.

Not saying that it's going to be the same case here or anything, but it's best not to put too much stock in these early impressions.

 

[BronsonLee]

It was dirt easy. Watch them give out free swag tonight too again.

I literally didn't even go to that trailer event, I just signed up and they gave me a ticket anyway

I'm guessing they'll do trivia for shit/do free popcorn and soda probably, these seem like expensive pushes for fan impressions

 

[LegendofDragoonLives]

The Bruce/Alfred scenes in Begins are probably the only solid time I thought Bale's Bruce felt like a real character at all. So if you're going to argue using Bale's performance in Begins then I'll definitely concede to you there, because there he's decently written and has an actual character arc. I think his Bruce sucks in the sequels though. The Rachel/Bruce scenes in Dark Knight are honestly kind of bad (it also didn't help that Bale and Maggie Gyllenhaal had zero chemistry together on screen). I don't remember a single thing about the Bruce/Dent scenes beyond his "I believe in Harvey Dent" scene mostly because I was focusing more on the (way better written) Harvey Dent character.

I'll just give one example of why I like Keaton's Bruce a little better than Bale's. Look at the scene where Bruce first tries to tell Vicki that he's Batman. Bruce straight up struggles to let the words "I'm Batman" come out of his mouth because that's a fucking huge bombshell to drop and it leaves him open emotionally. Ever try telling a secret to someone you care about and suddenly fumble over your words a bit? That made Keaton's Bruce feel a bit more human and in my opinion gave him a little depth because it felt like he was still a conflicted person internally (maybe I'm digging a little deep there, admittedly). Meanwhile, in Batman Begins, Bale has a line all conveniently queued up and ready to go right after Rachel asks Batman what his real name is. (Yes, technically he's Batman and not Bruce in that scene but it's a "Bruce" moment). That didn't really feel natural or convincing to me.

The Harvey Dent scene is the way Bruce is listening to Dent the way he smiles and acts, it's all fake from the audience POV but in character of how the real Bruce acts during the dinner scene. Bruce goes through a ton of shit and has massive development through all movies and you see that in every single one. You can see how different he is and how much weight he has carried to being Batman and what it's caused. You also see how much he misses being Batman for the first arc in DKR, how he's more Batman than Bruce. Interesting point to Bruce has always been that he's more Batman than he can ever be Bruce. You can also see how broken he is I thought the chemistry in the second movie as a love interest was good, in the first one on the other hand... :\

I'm just going to ignore the imaginary nuances of Keaton's performances which weren't good from the other poster.

 

[Mariolee]

Honestly, I've warmed up to the idea that Affleck could be good in the role but the claims of a new Batman being the "best Batman ever" sound like pretty typical hyperbole for the character. If impressions were praising Affleck, that would be one thing, but the all too commom phrase sounds more like people projecting on a performance that does nothing offensive to ruin the character. In fact, it sounds like more praise for the suit and it's action on screen than the man in it.

Batman looks cool, to be sure, I just can't take that claim at face value.

If it makes you feel better, Verendus has seen the movie and still thinks Bale is best Batman despite Affleck being one of the best performances in the film.

 

[Penguin]

I'm paying nothing AND seeing it early

I'M SO SPECIAL

Spoiler

it's dirt easy to see this movie early

Goddamnit Bobby!

I mean it's honestly dirt easy to see a TON of movies early and free!

But I guess being in NYC makes it a ton easier for me to say that

 

[ToMMSiN]

affleck played a great batman... need to wait on the new batman solo film to see if he can play a good bruce wayne...

 

[Purple Cheeto]

I didn't want to be the first dick to point this out, so thank you. first few reviews for almost any anticipated movie always sounds like Kevin Smith hyperbole despite the movie's actual quality.

I do kind of believe the Affleck thing though. I think he's going to do just fine.

I don't think it really would take much to surpass Nolan's Batman in Name only though.

 

[BronsonLee]

I mean it's honestly dirt easy to see a TON of movies early and free!

But I guess being in NYC makes it a ton easier for me to say that

It really is. I live in Philly near a theater that does them all the time. It takes like one minute to get them. You just have to wait in line for a bit longer than you'd like, and then tada.

 

[Sibersk Esto]

Lets not forget the first reactions to the new Fantastic Four as well.

Not saying that it's going to be the same case here or anything, but it's best not to put too much stock in these early impressions.

Only thing I remember from the fantastic four impressions was that the moment it was reported that sue storm said "check out dr doom over here" and "it's clobbering time" was a phrase used by ben's abusive brother, the dogs of war were set loose.

Also some dude in the OT was offering to buy Gaffers tickets for the movie because he swore the first 20 minutes were alright.

 

[LiQuid!]

I don't know why anybody would doubt Batfleck is the GOAT, it's already readily apparently from the trailers. This movie is going to be so good. Synder haters' tears are going to provide SUSTENANCE.

 

[Can Crusher]

"Best everything"