Batman > Superman: Dawn of Justice |OT| Enter the Knightmare
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More_Badass
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_illmatic_
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I was the exact same way. I'll like to think I have good tastes in movies, but now I question my taste since the reviews are so low for this film, but I loved it.
It really did feel like a DCA movie... they only ever do things this ballsy in the Animated Universe where they can do standalone shots... I really enjoyed it.
BlackGhost
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The more I think about it, the more I enjoy this batman
<-- not actually spoilers I guess
surprised so many ppl have problems with this depiction
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
I didn't mind it. Little showing to wet the appetite.
I just came back with my brother. We both thought the movie was trash. I wasn't a fan of Man of Steel but Man of Steel is way better than this.
This is not a movie. This is a complete mess. I legitimately feel sorry for the DC fanboys defending this saying it is a good movie. They deserve better but since this is all they have they have to defend it.
This is not a movie. This is a complete mess. I legitimately feel sorry for the DC fanboys defending this saying it is a good movie. They deserve better but since this is all they have they have to defend it.
Poodlestrike
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Your concern is noted and appreciated.
Tal Shiar Agent
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That's a really good way of putting it.
flintstryker
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You're almost too kind
Looking forward to seeing the full cut. Watchman and Sucker Punch were both greatly improved in his director's cuts.
I thoroughly enjoyed it! Although yeah, Batman's nightmare thing was definitely out of place. Surprised about the parsing of action scenes. Batman solo fight was amazing. But Trinity fight should've been longer. Acting was great all around and Gal Gadot's thick accent didn't bother me at all as I initially feared. I thought it would be another CG hell like the Avengers 1 and 2, but it only turned slightly messy towards the end. Great stuff.
I only hope Director's Cut actually has screen-cappable shirtless moments of Henry Cavill and Ben Affleck. We were robbed of clear views!
I only hope Director's Cut actually has screen-cappable shirtless moments of Henry Cavill and Ben Affleck. We were robbed of clear views!
They were? Cool. This should have the same fate as well.
Tal Shiar Agent
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Opinions, how do they work?
I wonder why it'll be rated R? I can't wait to see that cut, the theatrical version was already really good, the Director's cut will probably be fantastic.
BlackGhost
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I'm excited to see that
Saw it last night and gave my thoughts via the review thread so i'll just quote what I wrote there, albeit with one minor edit:
More_Badass
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The things with the bats was because it was a dream
Haha, okay. Opinions and all but I don't see people defending it. Most have given it a 7/8 out of 10, and noted that the reviewers are completely wrong in terms of it being absolute trash.
Its a comic book movie, I just don't understand what people expected from it.
bananafactory
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Blood Diamonds
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i wanna see this but like now i also want to wait for the ultimate r-rated whatever edition... how long is that going to take to come out?
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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Also, Synder
can fuck off with that dreams shit, or dreams within dreams nonsense. This is not fucking sucker punch.
Holy crap, he DID do that again didn't he!
BlackGhost
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i was kind of surprised reading Gaf that some ppl didn't realize that was a dream. When it was happening I have to admit I thought "lol wut? Pls" but soon realized it was a dream after
FUNKNOWN iXi
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This is exactly how I described it too! I didn't watch any trailers (which I think is where I differ from the vast majority of people who built expectations, I'm sure) and kept thinking, "This feels just like a DC animated movie." I really enjoyed it lol, although that's not to say I didn't have some issues with it, but I do believe people are blowing this up.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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He sure did, sneaky bastard.
Ok, that makes sense but it was pretty difficult to tell given how stylized the other dream sequences were in comparison to that one, namely the Dark Superman one.
Now we're talking!
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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Well
you could tell the thing with the bats was a dream when they started carrying him up. Or at least a vision or some shit
Well, if they use the
dreams
time travel
But if the
dreams are just dreams
BlackGhost
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Idk for this specific sequence I thought they made it pretty clear it was a dream. My mind isn't as fresh but I thought he woke up directly after or something
Yeah, Bruce literally talks about it being a dream while he's ascending into the light. I'm not sure how people missed it.
JadedWriter
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There was some shit I liked, there was a lot of shit that I thought was shit and there was a portion of that shit that I thought was fucking shit. Pull that motherfucker Snyder the fuck away from these things. I don't care if he sues, cries or whatever. Get. Him. The. Fuck. Away. From. This fucking franchise. His tone is heavy handed and too fucking morose to be fucking enjoyable. I liked the soundtrack, Alfred, Bat fleck and Wonder Woman. That's fucking it. Alex Luthor pulled some Black Zetsu shit and he's fucking weird as fuck. It was like some fucking Clockwork Orange torture chair shit. A superhero movie should not have the same weight and tone as David Cronenberg's The Fly.
Aaronology
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You complain about the
bat-lift of young Bruce without realizing that it was a dream sequence even after adult Bruce immediately refers to it is as such
In any case, I just returned from seeing it. Entirely too grim, the absolute worst Lex imaginable and likely one of the worst antagonists a modern comic film has seen to date, an amazing Batman and a surprisingly wonderful Wonder Woman, amazing score, too much Justice League shoehorning and an extremely charming Cavill forced to portray a Superman devoid of any charm whatesoever. My audience clapped and cheered when WW made her debut, and there were a few laughs here and there. I returned five times to see Man of Steel in theaters, but I won't be going back for BvS. It isn't nearly as bad as the RT thread made me think it would be, but it is... utterly disappointing in a way that's a little emotionally draining for a DC fan. It's a shack of What Is built next door to a skyscraper of What Could Have Been.
It's going to take a few viewings of Zootopia to get my spirits back up.
Cross post from DCCU thread:
Just got out. Really really liked it and bordering on love. Went with my wife who isn't in to DC, daughter and son who are, and my 61 year old mom and 67 year old step dad who know nothing about comics. We were all in agreement that it was really good. My 10 year old followed it fine with no confusion. None of us got bored and when I told them after the movie that it is a common complaint among many they all laughed.
This might be the moment in my life that triggers me to stop listening to critics all together. Reading the horrible reviews and then watching it I can echo a statement that has been thrown around here that I feel they watched a different movie. All the cast acted their ass off I thought.
-Affleck is easily my favorite Batman
-Irons is easily my favorite Alfred
-I thought Cavill did a much better job than MoS
-Wonder Woman was pure awesome
-Lex was really good and I understood his motivations.
-Supporting cast was solid
-Fights were spectacular
It was a little slow in the beginning but it was leading somewhere and I was never lost. Yes, they jumped around but who cares? Most of it was relevant. Maybe a few scenes that had nothing to do with the immediate plot but they still had meaning. The complaints about the universe building are ridiculous. I barely noticed it at all. I could have taken more. I feel like the universe building complaint will become the destruction complaint of MoS. Both are baseless IMO
8.75/10. Seeing it again tomorrow.
Just got out. Really really liked it and bordering on love. Went with my wife who isn't in to DC, daughter and son who are, and my 61 year old mom and 67 year old step dad who know nothing about comics. We were all in agreement that it was really good. My 10 year old followed it fine with no confusion. None of us got bored and when I told them after the movie that it is a common complaint among many they all laughed.
This might be the moment in my life that triggers me to stop listening to critics all together. Reading the horrible reviews and then watching it I can echo a statement that has been thrown around here that I feel they watched a different movie. All the cast acted their ass off I thought.
-Affleck is easily my favorite Batman
-Irons is easily my favorite Alfred
-I thought Cavill did a much better job than MoS
-Wonder Woman was pure awesome
-Lex was really good and I understood his motivations.
-Supporting cast was solid
-Fights were spectacular
It was a little slow in the beginning but it was leading somewhere and I was never lost. Yes, they jumped around but who cares? Most of it was relevant. Maybe a few scenes that had nothing to do with the immediate plot but they still had meaning. The complaints about the universe building are ridiculous. I barely noticed it at all. I could have taken more. I feel like the universe building complaint will become the destruction complaint of MoS. Both are baseless IMO
8.75/10. Seeing it again tomorrow.
crazyrabbits
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You're a critic now.
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OricWindstar
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Dammit, I'm so on the fence about seeing this tonight. I want to love it, but everything I'm hearing just makes me so bummed out. Like, I'm going to see it eventually and make my own mind up, but I feel like going right now is just going to be depressing. I just want a Superman movie I don't feel guilty defending.
Indigo_Plateau
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I just got back from watching it. I thought Man of Steel was mediocre but Batman vs Superman was decent.
I really, really liked that scene where
I really, really liked that scene where
Bruce thinks Clark is mentioning his mother, but in fact, he is referring to his own mother
Saw this in IMAX laser! One of only two cinemas in the UK to use the laser variation, 4k quality video so the clarity and picture was REALLY good.
Overall I enjoyed the movie, some pacing issues and bits thrown together without making much sense.
Affleck was good but I need to see more to determine if he is the best ever.
Cavill is boring imo, his character seems to have no charisma or charm.
Gal Gadot was awesome and looked better than I expected.
Eisenberg was annoying, could have easily made a Riddler or something.
7/10
Overall I enjoyed the movie, some pacing issues and bits thrown together without making much sense.
Affleck was good but I need to see more to determine if he is the best ever.
Cavill is boring imo, his character seems to have no charisma or charm.
Gal Gadot was awesome and looked better than I expected.
Eisenberg was annoying, could have easily made a Riddler or something.
7/10
Regarding the other JL member cameos.
Flash,
Aquaman,
Cyborg,
Wonder Woman,
Green Lantern,
looked silly. But not enough of him to have an opinion. i honestly have no idea what he was wearing, and the gas station scene was whatever
looked bad ass, but his scene was pretty disappointing.
most interesting cameo out of all of them imo. I'm actually excited for a cyborg movie more than I thought I would be.
stole the show. Gal Gatdamn. That fight intro music. Same with cyborg, looking forward to her movie.
where were you? I only saw reference to his love interest.
Major Gripex
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I loved that too. And it kinda blew my mind because I never thought of it. I know many critics shat all over the scene, and to be fair it was handled poorly due to the pacing, but I thought it was such a strong clever idea.
Also I find it funny that people's reaction to Eisenberg's Lex is one of two extremes: It's either "Best Lex EVA!" or "Gross, yuck it's like a "mixture between facebook and da Joker." I'm one of the few in the middle. It's funny because Eisenberg is literally my most hated actor out there. I find him extremely pretentious and I usually hate all the roles he's in. But when they hired him, I knew the Lex they were going for was closer to Gene Hackman's Lex rather than the Lex from the animated series/comics. And for the most part I was right but it was also a mixture of classic comic Lex. While I think Lex carried a lot of the movie in the beginning, in the last act it just became very campy and over the top. Though But I don't blame that on Eisenberg, I put that more on the Snyder.
I really enjoyed it.
After the RT thread I was expecting not to, but it's up there with any other superhero movie for me.
Had to watch in 3D though and my eyes hurt a bit by the end.
Batman was great, looking forward to seeing more of Wonder Woman in her own film.
Superman is lacking in any kind of charisma though.
Lex was ok but not a good Lex.
Suicide Squad looks like it might be fun too.
After the RT thread I was expecting not to, but it's up there with any other superhero movie for me.
Had to watch in 3D though and my eyes hurt a bit by the end.
Batman was great, looking forward to seeing more of Wonder Woman in her own film.
Superman is lacking in any kind of charisma though.
Lex was ok but not a good Lex.
Suicide Squad looks like it might be fun too.
Anton Sugar
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lol, barely noticed it?! The movie stops everything, twice, to do nothing but show you Justice League stuff.
It's not baseless. Maybe you have no problem with it, but it's not an issue that people invented out of thin air. It's something that exists in the movie and, for many, was poorly executed.
...aren't the identification OF the cameos kind of spoilery?
you have a point.
ShemhazaiX
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Hi. What about us Image fanboys who liked it?
I mean sure, it'd ruin your narrative if it was just DC fans pretending that they think it's good. But it's not. So cut the condescension out please.
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