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Looks like I was lucky to pick up the JS9500 last year instead of waiting for the refreshed KS models. I'm very surprised they decided to remove FALD. Guess moving forward I'll just stick to OLED for whenever I need to purchase a new tv.
 
thewaffles said:
Rtings review is up for any interested in the Vizio P series. The video game score is tied for the highest they've ever given.

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/vizio/p-series-2016
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That's super disappointing about the 50" being a native 60hz. It means there will be judder from the 3:2 pull down. 50" is the size I look for and I really couldn't justify a 65". Oh well not like I really needed a TV right now. Just wanted to keep an eye out for a replacement from the folks.
 
Dr. Zoidberg said:
I have the Disney WoW disc and it's pretty great. It will help you with most of the major settings. I don't think it will help you much with white balance though. People usually use professional software and colorimeters to adjust those.
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If your blu-ray player of choice happens to be the PS4 then would you mind playing the intermediate brightness pattern using WoW. Over the weekend I fired this up and for some strange reason the brightness pattern does not display properly. That's the only chapter on that disc that has trouble playing on my PS4.
 
Kaz42 said:
I know this thread is about tvs but is this a good monitor for ps4 gaming?

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0058UUR6E/?tag=neogaf0e-20
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Any particular reason you're going with a 24" besides cost?

I'd recommend you go with something slightly larger like this guy.

http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16824236392

As far as the 24" It's fine but it's a TN panel so I wouldn't recommend it simply out of personal distaste for the washed out colors you get due to low contrast. So if you're set on the sub 150 and 24" range I'd recommend looking around for a decent IPS.
 
Aztechnology said:
That's super disappointing about the 50" being a native 60hz. It means there will be judder from the 3:2 pull down. 50" is the size I look for and I really couldn't justify a 65". Oh well not like I really needed a TV right now. Just wanted to keep an eye out for a replacement from the folks.
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No 55"? I realize it is IPS, but impressions from avs members have been very positive about the black levels.
 
thewaffles said:
No 55"? I realize it is IPS, but impressions from avs members have been very positive about the black levels.
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Ehhhhh I'd really need to see it in person. My experience with IPS panels while I was working in HT at Best Buy was always less than stellar. I'm coming from a JS9000 which had phenomenal contrast.
 
As I said it's another reason why sites need to do fully separate reviews as different sizes have different panels and specs.
 
Aztechnology said:
Any particular reason you're going with a 24" besides cost?

I'd recommend you go with something slightly larger like this guy.

http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16824236392

As far as the 24" It's fine but it's a TN panel so I wouldn't recommend it simply out of personal distaste for the washed out colors you get due to low contrast. So if you're set on the sub 150 and 24" range I'd recommend looking around for a decent IPS.
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No not really except for the price and how close I plan to sit near the screen. I was thinking about that monitor specifically because it was pretty cheap and it had a very low response time. Thanks for the info on the different types of panels, I didn't know there would be a difference in color quality. How do I know if a monitor is an IPS or a TN?


Edit: I've narrowed my choices down to two monitors, the one you mentioned and this one:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UFCVKI4/?tag=neogaf0e-20

The new one I'm looking at is a little cheaper than the one you chose and an ips monitor but it's a little smaller (25in). They both have the same contrast ratio and response time though. The info I'm seeing online regarding the different panels seems to be outdated so any more help you could provide would be appreciated.
 
Aztechnology said:
Ehhhhh I'd really need to see it in person. My experience with IPS panels while I was working in HT at Best Buy was always less than stellar. I'm coming from a JS9000 which had phenomenal contrast.
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The black levels are really impressive for a IPS display. Which is even more evident while viewing Dolby Vision HDR. The color grading in Marco Polo is jaw dropping, and the way DV use FALD is exceptional. It comes close to plasma and in some cases surpasses them, this is speaking about VA panels. OLED will remain king, no matter what.
 
Crazy to think as of now from reviews (haven't seen the p series yet) its;

Can you afford OLED?
Yes. Buy OLED.
No. Buy Vizio P-series.

Wth with vizio though. Now you have not only different refresh rates like last years M-series, they also have at the most popular size 55", an IPS panel in there... Then the smart cast and lack of tuner. So weird.
 
J-Rzez said:
Crazy to think as of now from reviews (haven't seen the p series yet) its;

Can you afford OLED?
Yes. Buy OLED.
No. Buy Vizio P-series.

Wth with vizio though. Now you have not only different refresh rates like last years M-series, they also have at the most popular size 55", an IPS panel in there... Then the smart cast and lack of tuner. So weird.
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Smart-cast seems like a brilliant idea to me. No more getting stuck with the equivalent of Gingerbread apps on your TV.
 
J-Rzez said:
The new Samsung 4Ks have me scratching my head.

Color looks good. Contrast is awful. Light bleed is ridiculous. And the judder/micro stutter is crazy.

For anyone curious about these:
JS8500 -> KS8000/KS8500(curved)
JS9000 -> KS9000/9500. The KS9500 lost FALD and it shows.

The KS9800 is rumored to be the FALD replacement this summer?

Also, got to love that Vizio removed the tuner from their TVs, and the E-series "smart features" is miracast only now basically. Lol.

Even the Sony 930D disappoints.

What the hell got into TV makers this year?

I appreciate the better more accurate color, but not at the cost of contrast and lighting capability. What a disappointing year for TV enthusiasts thus far outside of the LG OLEDs once again. OLED only future (more affordable) with the death of LED-LCDs can't come soon enough.
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KS9800 is FALD and coming soon.
http://www.samsung.com/us/system/co.../un78ks9800fxza/Specs_TV_KS9800-1_040116b.pdf
 
Tenshin said:
Sorry if it been ask, whats better an oled tv or 4k one?
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There are OLED Tvs that are also 4K resolution. So you can have both. Very expensive though relative to the more common LED 4K TVs.

OLED is the display panel that is used and 4K is the resolution for the panel.
 
J-Rzez said:
Crazy to think as of now from reviews (haven't seen the p series yet) its;

Can you afford OLED?
Yes. Buy OLED.
No. Buy Vizio P-series.

Wth with vizio though. Now you have not only different refresh rates like last years M-series, they also have at the most popular size 55", an IPS panel in there... Then the smart cast and lack of tuner. So weird.
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The whole landscape is a cluster. All of the manufacturers have different sets in the same lineup which makes it almost impossible to read reviews if they aren't reviewing your exact model.

Plus the fact that pricing is all over the place as well since so many places have 2015 models on sale.

At some point you just have to say do you personally like the model your looking at regardless of what issues people might say it has and are you comfortable with the price.

In the end it's your TV in your house, and you are the one that's gonna live with it.
 
Nevermind. Turns out that the sound delay was caused by Xbox One. Audio output was set to Bitstream out. When I put this at stereo it was fine again.
 
Vanillalite said:
The whole landscape is a cluster. All of the manufacturers have different sets in the same lineup which makes it almost impossible to read reviews if they aren't reviewing your exact model.

Plus the fact that pricing is all over the place as well since so many places have 2015 models on sale.

At some point you just have to say do you personally like the model your looking at regardless of what issues people might say it has and are you comfortable with the price.

In the end it's your TV in your house, and you are the one that's gonna live with it.
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This is why I've been trying to hold on to my trusty old 1080p Samsung LED DLP for as long as possible...

Every time I think I've got something figured out..there is something about a set I don't like...ugh...
 
Vanillalite said:
I love RT. Glad that site exists as we've need a good site like that for a while now.

That being said I've always had some issues with their reviews. I feel like they need to do separate reviews for the TVs that use different panels. I know it's more work, but I feel like there is a big difference between VA and IPS panels which should result in their own reviews.

I've also never quiet gotten the sports catagory. ESPN is 720p. NBC is 1080i. Watching on Direct TV vs Comcast vs WatchESPN on Chromecast all give different material to judge. Watching a game on ESPN 3 and a game on ESPN doesn't give me the exact same experience.

At least in theory when testing say movies you can use the same Blu-Ray for each test.

I also always wondered about input lag as that can vary from console to console (or PC) in terms of gaming.
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Their sports rating is based on 67% Motion Blur and 33% Gray Uniformity. They do not take resolution into account when giving it a score.
 
After watching star wars on my Sony I can't wait to upgrade to a oled, my whites and blacks look shitty.

Here's hoping the new oled 55" from lg is under 3k
it won't be :(
 
Jigolo said:
Gizmodo tho the review is trash.

If you're really waiting to know on weather or not the upscaling will be bad or not I would wait for reviews from AVforum, AVSForums, rtings. HDTVTest already has theirs up.
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I'm waiting on any information I can get. Especially on the lower models, to see if they have the same input lag.
 
Just checking in to say thanks for the information on the 4K 55X8500C (Similar to the X850C in the US I believe) - arrived on Saturday and I spent the afternoon getting her set up. A big jump going from a 42".

rtings had a calibration guide which was a great help getting my screen looking beautiful. A lot of things are still new and I don't understand most of it - seems to have a "colour range" setting (not sure if this is correct in English); but it supports varied display colour levels. BT.2020 seems to make my reds a little bit distorted, so I calibrated it correctly to sRGB/BT.709 for now. I'm thinking that the colour was slightly distorted because that level spectrum is not supported properly yet.

Overall, a great TV. Was pricey, but my wife forgave me in the end (had to bribe her with an oven, but at least I had some baked goodies to munch on after all that hard calibration work!). Thanks again, TV GAF.

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theSlacker said:
To quote gizmodo's review;

Upscaling is so bad you’re better off tossing your whole DVD collection than watching it on this TV
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Tech writer goes to a LG press event, spends some time with a TV, writes some impressions and calls it a review. Most DVDs are upscaled by a Blu-ray player rather than a TV. Wouldn't be surprised if this was the case here and overlooked.

Meanwhile, David Mackenzie calibrated the first G6 that came into Value Electronics, bought a second for himself and calibrated at least one other for a customer before it was shipped out. He used these calibrations as the basis for his review. He lists scaling as excellent. I haven't seen any other reviews take issue with the scaling.

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/oled65g6p-201604014268.htm


55" C6 and E6 are out now so we should see some reviews soon.
 
MrJames said:
Tech writer goes to a LG press event, spends some time with a TV, writes some impressions and calls it a review. Most DVDs are upscaled by a Blu-ray player rather than a TV. Wouldn't be surprised if this was the case here and overlooked.

Meanwhile, David Mackenzie calibrated the first G6 that came into Value Electronics, bought a second for himself and calibrated at least one other for a customer before it was shipped out. He used these calibrations as the basis for his review. He lists scaling as excellent. I haven't seen any other reviews take issue with the scaling.

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/oled65g6p-201604014268.htm


55" C6 and E6 are out now so we should see some reviews soon.
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Interesting. Well there is hope that this is my next tv again.
 
theSlacker said:
Scaling is important if you plan on playing console video games.
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Which 1080p scales beautifully on a 4K due to being an exactly double width and height. (X1 on the Bravia's does it so good you swear it was native.)

You would have to have a total incompetent fuck up on high end tech to not scale 1080p to 4K properly.

I am not talking 480p to 1080p (from a Blu-ray player) to 4K like a DVD which has always been ho-hum after viewing Blu-ray or 4K content.
 
DeepEnigma said:
Which 1080p scales beautifully on a 4K due to being an exactly double width and height. (X1 on the Bravia's does it so good you swear it was native.)

You would have to have a total incompetent fuck up on high end tech to not scale 1080p to 4K properly.

I am not talking 480p to 1080p (from a Blu-ray player) to 4K like a DVD which has always been ho-hum after viewing Blu-ray or 4K content.
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The article very clearly says that 1080p broadcasts look like buttcheeks on this set.

It worked wonderfully when I watched 4K content from Amazon and Netflix, but it was less crazy about upscaling 1080p and standard definition content from a Blu-Ray. So Skyfall, one of the best looking Bond films ever shot, sometimes got ugly. Real ugly. The opening scene, all rich browns and dark shadows on a 1080p set, became as grainy as if you were watching a crappy DVD rip.
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I was looking to upgrade to a 4K TV, but Samsung's Edgelight nonsense and the poor upscalling on this one has me thinking second thoughts.
 
Vire said:
The article very clearly says that 1080p broadcasts look like buttcheeks on this set.



I was looking to upgrade to a 4K TV, but Samsung's Edgelight nonsense and the poor upscalling on this one has me thinking second thoughts.
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Ah, well that is a bummer for now. I thought this was the article that only mentioned DVDs, saying to toss them because it won't look good on it. (was thinking it was the OLED review)

Luckily, scaling can be fixed through firmware updates.
 
pswii60 said:
There are still many, many SD TV channels. I don't watch any of them, but many people do. I agree though, I'll watch nothing less than HD on my UHD OLED :)
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DeepEnigma said:
Ah, well that is a bummer for now. I thought this was the article that only mentioned DVDs, saying to toss them because it won't look good on it.

Luckily, scaling can be fixed through firmware updates.
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il go ahead and assume my dragon box dvds will be fine ? the odd anime or unreleased BD film is about all i need dvds for
 
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