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Yes, decent NX thread. Love it 
I think we wouldn't get allot of info 27apr, because we only got some small details for wiiu and 3ds also. What do you expect?
Did Emily not told us 2 weeks ago that we would get allot more info from zelda u? With a video included?
If so, why doesn't we hear anything from it. Few days are already past, if I'm not wrong.
I think we wouldn't get allot of info 27apr, because we only got some small details for wiiu and 3ds also. What do you expect?
Did Emily not told us 2 weeks ago that we would get allot more info from zelda u? With a video included?
If so, why doesn't we hear anything from it. Few days are already past, if I'm not wrong.
I don't recall that. Do you have a source on where she said that?
except the Wii U was pretty easy to develop for because it used the same architecture going back to the GC and every major publisher had their major stuff working on the Wii U and had made Wii and GC games.
How did you get the invite? Related to this?
I wanna know how to get one ;_;
I can't go even if I do get an invite.
Yes, decent NX thread. Love it
I think we wouldn't get allot of info 27apr, because we only got some small details for wiiu and 3ds also. What do you expect?
Did Emily not told us 2 weeks ago that we would get allot more info from zelda u? With a video included?
If so, why doesn't we hear anything from it. Few days are already past, if I'm not wrong.
She said "This week in Nintendo rumors: blah blah blah" and people interpreted it as "something is going to happen this week/soon" which is not what she meant, IIRC
Captain Smoker
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Your argument makes no sense because publishers had to port PS360-games and not Wii/GCN-games.
You get angry with people for stating rumors as fact... then go onto state your opinions on what will happen as fact. Okay.
You are way too concerned with what other people think. Why does the thought of other people being hopeful bother you so much? It doesn't affect you if someone else's hopes are dashed in a couple of months. You think that you're being realistic and that you're trying to get others to as realistic as you are so the won't be disappointed, but you're not. You're being pessimistic, and you feel that everyone else should be as well. The truth is that your mentality isn't going to prevent you from being disappointed; it just means that you expect to be disappointed, and in fact you're already disappointed which is why you're trying to shoot down any optimism. It's a forum. Have fun discussing possibilities while we can because, at the end of the day, nothing will change. NX's specs and form factor(s) are set in stone. The games that are in development are being worked on and the one that aren't just aren't. Nobody's gonna care about anything said here 6 months from now. For now, all we can do is discuss what's possible and what isn't. Besides, it's fun to think about what's to come and have wild dreams that won't ever come true. That's the best part of console hype! That's why we're on forums, to discuss things.
Okay, I made that a bit too long but you get the picture. Let's jump into the madness!
Quicly looking on Google again for a source:
https://mynintendonews.com/2016/04/08/rumour-emily-rogers-says-zelda-wii-u-news-coming-soon/
That was the leak about voice acting & Female Link.
NecroGiggles
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I just hope they get good 3rd party support with the NX. I skipped the wii and only got the wii-u used and have a whole 4 games for it.
That's his shtick. Arrogant. Then if he happens to be right he wants attention or in his words "a cookie."
Debating with him is pointless.
DrROBschiz
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Xbox 360 and PS3 also used PPC if that's what you're talking about. Not that it's really relevant.
Obviously the architecture was different in a lot of ways though. Xenon architecture was terrible and Cell was extremely complicated. The actual performance of the Espresso compared to those are debatable. The GPU used a newer architecture.
I'd be very surprised if the handheld wasn't revealed this E3, even if it doesn't release this calendar year. If they've got any kind of interaction between the two (even without the shared library that most people are expecting), then it makes much more sense for them to unveil both at the same time.
Edit: To follow up on this, the last console handheld pair which Nintendo had meaningful interaction between, the Gamecube and GameBoy Advance, were both announced on the same day. With presumably a lot more interaction going on between their upcoming home console and handheld, I can't see why they'd take a different route this time.
Yup, she never said video or anything, she was referring to her own future leak.
Emily Rogers' rumor was debunked, right?
Erm, yes? It's there loss by not getting the machine.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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No.
When?
Ok thanks to explain it.
Okay then. But with the fresh slate of a new system, they are more likely to take the plunge to get those games. There are people who still want those games but they just despise the Wii U because the system is an abomination. People who didn't buy them on Wii U will buy them on NX. That's a given I think.
I usually prefer not to talk in absolutes but after the PS4 and seeing how remasters and ports sold well...I'm okay wit what I said above.
I can't blame people for not wanting to spend $350 on a shit piece of hardware even if they want a couple of the games. Reputation sells, man. This gen proved that more than anything.
NinjaCoachZ
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Emily Rogers mentioned the Zelda stuff and the 4 ports, specifically saying one was Zelda. Then she played a guessing game of sorts with some GAFfers that let us extrapolate that Smash, Mario Maker, and Splatoon were the other three.
10k's rumour said Zelda, Smash, Mario Maker, and Splatoon were the ports, which went along with what Emily said, but also noted that MM and Splatoon were on shakier ground as far as credibility goes.
After that, Emily comes out and confirms those were the four games and also that she was less certain of MM and Splatoon, but Smash and Zelda are 100% coming.
10k's situation was what it was, but Emily Rogers heard the same thing port-wise totally independently, so that part of the rumour is still solid. And nothing she said Zelda-wise has been disproven.
I think that's how it goes. Confusing I know.
Or maybe Warioware: Smooth Criminal for NX is just that good.
NinjaCoachZ
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You joke but WarioWare: Smooth Moves is in my honest opinion one of the best games ever made.
I've been waiting soooo long for a proper WarioWare again, I'll be miffed if NX doesn't get one after both 3DS and Wii U missed the boat.
I guess if you port over the Wii U's best games, add in a bunch of new non-rushed Nintendo games, and sprinkle in the major third party releases... yeah, it's not too crazy of a bet.
Angry Chair
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That was just like her opinion man.
Claude Augario
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Father_Brain
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This is probably true in the literal sense, but "much better" and "done better" are pretty vague. There's a lot of daylight between Wii U sales and even, say, N64 sales, let alone 50-60M units WW.
Wii was only really a "gold mine" for casual/family games - the market they did the most to cultivate on the platform, and the market they've probably lost permanently to PS4. They have no post-N64 history of being able to cultivate the teen/adult Western male gamer demographic on their systems, and nothing in their first-party lineup leads me to believe that they had a chance of succeeding at that on Wii U (or doing more than marginally better).
Assuming a first-party lineup not radically dissimilar from Wii U's, I think there's at best a GC-sized audience available to Nintendo.
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Agreed. Words like "better" and "good" are based on personal standards and criteria, so I would caution people to be careful about assuming that they and Emily are on the same page.
She did say this, but it's also something that can't really be debunked unless Emily were to say "found out my sources were lying to me/a game isn't as cool as I thought, so I've changed my mind." 1.5 years from now, NX could have 5 or 10 games that Emily thinks are GOAT contenders but most people think are garbage, and she could still say "Told you the library is better." I'd say only take statements like that as reasons to be hyped for the console if you think you and Emily have the same opinions.
You left out the part about me being angry at people who write long winded convoluted posts about nothing.
why not? what would you like them to do differently? im legit curious. ive bern happy with mine since launch but we all have different tastes and such so what do you feel was lacking and what do you want to see with nx that would make it a day one buy?
She did say that, but then went on to later say that it wasn't a rumor or any kind of insider info. Just speculation based on nothing more than optimism.
https://twitter.com/ArcadeGirl64/status/719986026383446016
https://twitter.com/ArcadeGirl64/status/719990834590916608
Edit: New thread proves me wrong. Oh well.
I agree, but the situation has changed. Just releasing a PS4+ level box halfway into the generation, coming off the WiiU rather than Wii, and when their competitors have a 40 million lead and a decent software library isn't going to get them either third party support or many new customers. They need a Wii-like hook.
It only doesn't make sense if can't read.
The publishers were used to the Wii U architecture because they've worked wtih it for 10 years dating back to the GC. And they already had ported 360/PS3 games to the Wii U. Once you port an engine over etc for your Madden, FIFA, CoD, etc etc then then things get a lot easier for future games.
Also note how different the PS3 architecture was from the 360 and yet....all 3rd party games always made both platforms. You need sales to keep games being made for your platform. Or moneybags.
I'm trying to come up with a response to this, but I'm too busy laughing.
Look, I'm just saying that other people being optimistic has no effect on you and that being a debbie downer and shutting down all conversation doesn't help anyone.
I'm only a debbie downer if you happen to believe the only cool thing the NX can be is an X1/PS4 clone that plays 3rd party games.
But even then since when does GAF listen to reality? AS someone else said yesterday, they only see what they want to see. So don't know how I can even be a debbie downer to the types on this board who believe what they want to believe irregardless of how many red flags I point out. I was the first to call out 10k on his rumors and listed my red flags and no one could care less about reality. It (didn't) diminish their spirit of believing wild speculation.
And the fun for me is laughing at all those people. To show them reality and watch their little minds put their tinfoil hats back on and start yelling freak out, freak out, freak out.
Lol exactly why I stopped responding to this guy, the dude is off.
Skittzo0413
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I agree with what was said a few pages ago about speculating about power rumors being fairly boring. Also in regards to the above, a major factor in Wii U's lack of support apparently had to do with the Wii U devkits and developer tools and support being incredibly lacking, since Nintendo had seemingly grown rather arrogant after the success of the Wii, assuming everyone and their grandmother would want to put games on the Wii U (that's my theory anyway).
That being said, I think there's a good amount of discussion to be had on some of the features (read: gimmick/hook/innovation) that NX might have, based on hints from quotes, the patents filed, what's technologically feasible, etc.
For a new input/control method, I've presented my theory that they could use eye tracking with a camera in the controller in order to allow the user to control games on the TV with their eyes. In other words, look at a certain area on the TV and an aiming reticle moves there, or potentially a lot of other fun uses. It's a gimmick which wouldn't add much at all to the cost of the console, allow devs to just use traditional controls only if they want, and do something which hasn't been done before. Also, we have patents using eye tracking technology, along with the new 3DS using eye tracking in the enhanced 3D tech.
So can anyone here think of other types of control/input methods that correspond to the "brand new concept" and "competitors won't steal our ideas" quotes? Maybe something which Nintendo has previously toyed with, but never focused on? I think we can come up with some great theories if we speculate about that.
That being said, I think there's a good amount of discussion to be had on some of the features (read: gimmick/hook/innovation) that NX might have, based on hints from quotes, the patents filed, what's technologically feasible, etc.
For a new input/control method, I've presented my theory that they could use eye tracking with a camera in the controller in order to allow the user to control games on the TV with their eyes. In other words, look at a certain area on the TV and an aiming reticle moves there, or potentially a lot of other fun uses. It's a gimmick which wouldn't add much at all to the cost of the console, allow devs to just use traditional controls only if they want, and do something which hasn't been done before. Also, we have patents using eye tracking technology, along with the new 3DS using eye tracking in the enhanced 3D tech.
So can anyone here think of other types of control/input methods that correspond to the "brand new concept" and "competitors won't steal our ideas" quotes? Maybe something which Nintendo has previously toyed with, but never focused on? I think we can come up with some great theories if we speculate about that.
Lol get over yourself.
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