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Uncharted 4 - A Thief's |Reviews Thread| Nateness Awaits

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Some of my fondest moments of UC2 MP was killing people like this with a rocket launcher.

such good times.
 
The game is really, really great. It has all the greatness as the previous three games, with better, more nuanced writing and more gameplay variety.

The criticism that it's poorly paced is super legitimate, though. This is a game that's quite a few hours longer than it should be. The counter-point (from people that haven't played it) will be "But how can more of an incredible game be a bad thing, dummy?!?" - what those people either don't understand or are willfully ignoring is that this poor pacing isn't in service of the story - it HARMS the story.

Literally dozens of times in this game Drake will run into a locked door, and have to take very very lengthy detours around, just to keep the plot going. In one especially egregious moment he finds a locked door, goes through hell to go around it the long way, and then ends up having to go BACK to the door he started at. It's exasperating and lazy.

This is a MUCH longer campaign than any previous Uncharted - around 15 hours, compared to the ~10-11 hours Uncharted 1-3 lasted. But if these padded sections weren't in the game, and it was closer in length to U1-3 it would actually be a better game.
 
I'm so awesome. I'm gonna predict a 94 metacritic after looking at a 51 page thread and the MC score. I bet you guys wish you had, e-late skills like mine.

I'm soo late. :P

Also forgot to show myself out.
 
I swear, if IGN doesn't get their crap together and actually gives it sub-9 for the final score, I'm gonna flip.

Edge better come through with a 9 or 10, too.

That's if they value journalistic integrity whatsoever.
 
The game is really, really great. It has all the greatness as the previous three games, with better, more nuanced writing and more gameplay variety.

The criticism that it's poorly paced is super legitimate, though. This is a game that's quite a few hours longer than it should be. The counter-point (from people that haven't played it) will be "But how can more of an incredible game be a bad thing, dummy?!?" - what those people either don't understand or are willfully ignoring is that this poor pacing isn't in service of the story - it HARMS the story.

Literally dozens of times in this game Drake will run into a locked door, and have to take very very lengthy detours around, just to keep the plot going. In one especially egregious moment he finds a locked door, goes through hell to go around it the long way, and then ends up having to go BACK to the door he started at. It's exasperating and lazy.

This is a MUCH longer campaign than any previous Uncharted - around 15 hours, compared to the ~10-11 hours Uncharted 1-3 lasted. But if these padded sections weren't in the game, and it was closer in length to U1-3 it would actually be a better game.

This is a fair criticism. If the game really is artificially bloated they should had opted for a more tight concise game.

Does this padded sections hurt the plot too?
 
You know the funniest thing about the whole situation? Is there were more people talking about meltdowns in this review thread pre embargo than actual meltdowns. And the only "meltdowns" are people clearly faking it and trolling to try and put a bad name. It's actually been very civilised. You compare it to recent review threads for AAA releases like Quantum Break and it's actually very peaceful.

It is because the MC is at 94. Have a UC4 thread with a <80 MC, and things would be different. A less than 80 MC would mean substantially lower sales and could threaten the single player tps action adventure genre's very existence, or at least some would see it that way.

But 94? Why'd someone get upset when they won?...oh yeah, a 9/10 gtav score resulted in death threats. I guess maybe UC fans aren't as disturbed as GTA fans.
 
Naughty Dog did it again. Just wow. Best studio in the industry currently.

Gonna finish up the game today.

It's a bona-fide masterpiece so far.

Holy shit at what these developers can do. Take a bow, ND.

If these 10s keep coming in, I think the game will sit at a 95, even with IGN's 8.8, which is fucking absurd.
 
Wait a min... from Jim's review:



Is this dude serious? I thought this shit was a meme driven by trolls. I did not think a journalist would be standing by this. GTFO with this haha...

Just wow...

My wife hates these games for that reason. It is totally legitimate for some.
 
Even in DMC4 i loved back tracking, it is one of the things that MGS 1-3 did very good and if there is a little bit of it in U4 then i'm happy.
Backtracking can be really fun if done correctly.

Checking out the reviews just out of curiosity, ofcourse i'm buying the game after all those trailers.
 
I don't think you understand the issue that people are having with IGN's review score process.

I totally understand the in progress thing. It sucks. It'd a really poor decision,however a lot of people are focused on the 8.8 and zoning in on how the same reviewer gave rottr 9.3
 
It is because the MC is at 94. Have a UC4 thread with a <80 MC, and things would be different. A less than 80 MC would mean substantially lower sales and could threaten the single player tps action adventure genre's very existence, or at least some would see it that way.

But 94? Why'd someone get upset when they won?...oh yeah, a 9/10 gtav score resulted in death threats. I guess maybe UC fans aren't as disturbed as GTA fans.

Giving GTA a 9/10 is crazy and takes some balls, the game has gazilions of fanboys i would not want to review a game like GTA.
 
What made you lose interest in RoTR and QB though?

What I felt was incredibly tedious gunplay in RotTR and nothing from the narrative was pressing me to push forward.

I'm not sure what I was expecting out of QB and I may return to it but I bought it mostly as a fan of Remedy's Max Payne and Alan Wake. It's sorta a combination of those two series'. I'm even a fan of the time travel/bending trope but the narrative didn't really grab me with this one either.
 
I don't really care for the whole meme complaint about Drake being a mass murderer. But I think even with that said, UC4 handled it pretty well.

However, there's only so much you can do when your the fourth game in series.

What I felt was incredibly tedious gunplay in RotTR and nothing from the narrative was pressing me to push forward.

I'm not sure what I was expecting out of QB and I may return to it but I bought it mostly as a fan of Remedy's Max Payne and Alan Wake. It's sorta a combination of those two series'. I'm even a fan of the time travel/bending trope but the narrative didn't really grab me with this one either.

You'll enjoy UC4 I'm pretty sure. The narrative push here is pretty strong.
 
Wait a min... from Jim's review:



Is this dude serious? I thought this shit was a meme driven by trolls. I did not think a journalist would be standing by this. GTFO with this haha...

Just wow...

yep my reaction too, can't believe he went with this.
 
Naughty Dog did it again. Just wow. Best studio in the industry currently.

Gonna finish up the game today.

It's a bona-fide masterpiece so far.

Holy shit at what these developers can do. Take a bow, ND.

If these 10s keep coming in, I think the game will sit at a 95, even with IGN's 8.8, which is fucking absurd.

IGN has too much weight into MetaCritic maths, only way it could be countered is with a 10 from Edge.
 
I actually don't know if Jim's being serious are just baiting. But in both cases I find it silly, as Jim's reviews are pretty well written and don't need that kinda stuff.
 
Even in DMC4 i loved back tracking, it is one of the things that MGS 1-3 did very good and if there is a little bit of it in U4 then i'm happy.
Backtracking can be really fun if done correctly.

Totally true.

Although, if you are a reviewer whom gets paid the same whether a game is 5 hours or 500; or someone who only wants the story, then any unnecessary filler is aggravating. It is core problem when designing these types of games, single player narrative adventures. The actual gameplay is seen as an impediment by some and something they have to endure.
 
Wait a min... from Jim's review:



Is this dude serious? I thought this shit was a meme driven by trolls. I did not think a journalist would be standing by this. GTFO with this haha...

Just wow...
You could have at least spoiler tagged the review. I knew coming into this thread was a mistake.
 
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