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I enjoyed Batman v Superman more than Civil War, who is with me?
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lmao fucking hyperbole around here god damn. pathetic post
Dash_Riprock
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Well there was this guy who got banned for this:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=201473752&postcount=4963
It is hyperbole, but it is painfully obvious that BvS was chopped to bits in the editing room.
This was an elaborate way to say, "I know." Which was pointless. Much like the post I quoted.
I don't know
what does Armond have to say
http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...rheroes-dumbed-down?target=author&tid=1152026
welp, there you have it
what does Armond have to say
http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...rheroes-dumbed-down?target=author&tid=1152026
welp, there you have it
Much like the central conflict of Batman v Suparman.
word.
Yeah, BvS is a mess in terms of pacing and editing. The dream sequences in particular feel really out of place.
Have you read about how this movie was edited?
Apparently it's not too far from the truth. And you can easily tell that it was cut and pasted together to form one movie, despite the fact that there is little coherence.
Sa da tay
What did he mean by this?
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i am so glad he hates CW
Dash_Riprock
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I wonder what his GAF account is.
Yautja_Warrior
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Nope, BvS was just so disappointing overall, while Civil War was just an all round well made movie.
BvS had some great moments but the bits in-between that were supposed to glue it all together were just poorly edited and it all felt rushed, something a movie that's nearly 3 hours long shouldn't feel.
It really should have been split into a few movies, mainly MoS 2 and a Batman movie, let the universe and characters build up and then worry about the Justice League setup after. It would have let characters have more screen time and storylines develop much more than what BvS gave us. I mean, even the actual Batman v Superman part of the movie was about 10 mins total, then they tried to cram in the Death of Superman story into the last 20 mins.
Love or hate the Marvel (MCU) movies, you can tell they have planned their movies well for the most part, which has allowed them to create a series of movies and characters that all connect and interact very well together. DC on the other hand, just tried to get to the end result without the build up / solid foundation from past movies and it fell apart.
BvS had some great moments but the bits in-between that were supposed to glue it all together were just poorly edited and it all felt rushed, something a movie that's nearly 3 hours long shouldn't feel.
It really should have been split into a few movies, mainly MoS 2 and a Batman movie, let the universe and characters build up and then worry about the Justice League setup after. It would have let characters have more screen time and storylines develop much more than what BvS gave us. I mean, even the actual Batman v Superman part of the movie was about 10 mins total, then they tried to cram in the Death of Superman story into the last 20 mins.
Love or hate the Marvel (MCU) movies, you can tell they have planned their movies well for the most part, which has allowed them to create a series of movies and characters that all connect and interact very well together. DC on the other hand, just tried to get to the end result without the build up / solid foundation from past movies and it fell apart.
Captin Quacker
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Paying any amount is cray
Someone please link his BVS write up about cumming.
why must you take part in the moral decay of our society
Editing may very well be, but that's stuff I don't even think about while watching a movie, it doesn't affect my opinion, to me just everything looked cool, but the substance also matched the style I'd say. Pacing I don't know, I liked it, there is an event at the beginning that you would expect near the end, that instantly grabbed me and afterwards it felt like this calm before the real storm while not being boring at all.
off topic - i'm still curious what you thought about my Batman Begins > Dark Knight logic
i will gladly take the opposite side of everyone in the National Review
that he loves BvS & MoS and hates Civil War is just icing on the cake
what a reductionist viewpoint
there are a great many more aspects to film/shows/albums/books than just that
paragonpro
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You get that sound logic out of here! Only rampant hyperbole is allowed here. That being said, im waiting for this first look shit to be over for civil war so I cant speak
For it yet, but im very confused about how I feel about bvs. There were parts I loved. battfleck in particular, but other things I hated, like the pacing.
Captin Quacker
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Bruh
You just said you'd pay to travel to an alternate reality where BvS reviewed well
poor pacing does bother me, I said I don't notice sub par editing.
Well I'd pay to travel to an alternate reality period.
Dash_Riprock
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You're right. Here is how BvS made me feel:
Also didn't you just claim
My avatar already captures the look I had when the credits rolled.
WTF: "in the confused Ferguson protestations about “militarized police,”..." "Offensevely named black panther" What is this?
Ocarina_117
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I thoroughly enjoyed both movies.
Civil War was a lot more 'fun'. The airport scene was hilarious at times, the action was cool. I also really liked the villain. Black Panther was amazing and I really liked Spiderman. RDJ's performance was great, especially at the end of the movie.
However I find myself more excited to rewatch BvS. The action was amazing, the cinematography, framing, score were all beautiful. I loved this iteration of Batman, killing be damned. Yes there are inconsistencies throughout the movie, I hope this will be fixed by a directors cut. I also hope the directors cut removes the Wonder Woman email scene all together - screams of WB interfering to set up the universe.
I had a lot more fun watching Civil War, but I feel time will be very kind towards BvS. People will reflect and see parts they really enjoyed - again, this could be helped should the Director's cut deliver.
Civil War was a lot more 'fun'. The airport scene was hilarious at times, the action was cool. I also really liked the villain. Black Panther was amazing and I really liked Spiderman. RDJ's performance was great, especially at the end of the movie.
However I find myself more excited to rewatch BvS. The action was amazing, the cinematography, framing, score were all beautiful. I loved this iteration of Batman, killing be damned. Yes there are inconsistencies throughout the movie, I hope this will be fixed by a directors cut. I also hope the directors cut removes the Wonder Woman email scene all together - screams of WB interfering to set up the universe.
I had a lot more fun watching Civil War, but I feel time will be very kind towards BvS. People will reflect and see parts they really enjoyed - again, this could be helped should the Director's cut deliver.
You're right. Here is how BvS made me feel:
Also didn't you just claim
Well I respect that opinion, I'm saying that reviews don't matter, but that I would want to see how much they affect the concensus.
Astral Dog
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No but i liked BvS a bit more than AoU >.>
With some heavy cuts and edits it could be a competent movie
With some heavy cuts and edits it could be a competent movie
Ocarina_117
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This would be quite interesting actually.
Upon release of reviews all I saw on twitter was:
'LOL Knew Ben Affleck would be an awful batman' and stuff of this sort. Interesting that people on social media rarely read the content of reviews they cite.
Few reviews like MovieBob i felt were over the top hyperbolic, the movie was not that bad. The GAF post about how the movie didn't 'earn the right' to have the cool shot of Batman, Superman and Wonder woman was also quite lame.
The problem is the only reason you are saying this is because the majority of people didn't like the movie and you did.
How dare you be so sound and logical. You have stolen my honor.
Yeezus H. Christ
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Ant-Man is almost three times better than BvS, from a numerical standpoint.
Civil War is closer to four times. 👀👀
Civil War is closer to four times. 👀👀
There are, and I appreciate them if they are good, I'm also disappointed if they are bad, I know how bad Arrow and sometimes Flash is, really corny and shitty, some of those teen drama scenes are torture, but I still enjoy watching the shows for lots of reasons and these reasons outweigh the bad stuff.
With Batman v Superman however, I was entertained throughout, nothing seemed corny, what I especially enjoyed was how they captured the reactions of the common people, it was a theme throughout and helped making the over the top action more believable, that Neil DeGrasse Tyson cameo for example, that made it feel like real life for a split second.
Damn, he went in hard. He makes some interesting, salient points though.
Pharaoh 117
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BvS is a poorly executed movie. Civil War is way better.
CornBurrito
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How do you know this?
I think half your points are tenuous at best. I see a refusal to even contemplate on the film's merits. But let's have a conversation, because I think the film is more nuanced than what's expected from the genre. There's a lot of good stuff.
-The scene in Africa is stupid beyond belief. Why is Lois alive as a witness? Why does Superman get blamed for the deaths considering he doesn't need to use bullets?
I thought this scene was the first piece of evidence that the film is unafraid to take us to a very real, very contemporary, place. Journalists interview these labelled "terrorists" all the time. This Lois Lane has balls of steel. And Superman wasn't blamed for the gunfight; considering the main piece of dialogue that happened immediately after was a description of the local militia gunning down a village, due to Superman's intervention. I particularly liked how in this cinematic world, there's a lot of pain and consequences... Which hasn't really been addressed in the MCU until Avengers 2.
-Lois and Clark bathtub scene. Did the conversation have to take place their?
LOL. What's wrong with this scene? Lois is taking a bath, probably the first one since being in the middle of bullets and desert. It shows how comfortable they are in front of each other, and it was quite poignant when Lois tries to spell it out for Clark that there's things to consider when saving the day. Do you have a girlfriend, a wife? It's one of the most authentic scenes in the movie.
-When Lex puts a toffee in the Senators mouth. Is this really Lex's attitude?
See, I loved that character moment. It's a power play. A government man (to his gloom) is literally eating out of the hands of this enigmatic sociopath.
-Lex starts killing his assistants now? (Mercy)
Lex, in every piece of media, has been established to kill his cohorts. This isn't the first time Mercy has been killed. As for the film, it would make sense to lessen the suspicion on him if his dear assistant was caught in the blast.
-Why would Batman leave his Batarang after stealing the Kryptonite
It's his middle finger to Lex. I thought that was a definitive statement, and inspired by his animated version who does the same.
-Lex's plan to persuade Superman to battle Batman was coincidently just when he kidnapped Martha?
The plan wouldn't exactly work if Superman thought something was amiss any sooner.
-Superman cant use his X-ray vision to locate Martha?
Why is this even an issue? Superman is surrounded, in all 360 degrees, by a loud, dense city. People have a hard time finding each other in large Minecraft map, even if they make a bright-ass structure, screaming to be found.
-Lex gets his design team to associate logos to the justice league members. WUT. Also, unveiling the justice league members through email...in a movie? Really?
Those logos are already part of the character's appearance... I'll give you the email scene, though it bothered me less than the large majority.
-Lois throwing the spear and then retrieving it (WHAT?). and some how deducing that the spear kills Doomsday. How does she even know this considering she didn't even see Doomsday?
Lois explicitly watches the events unfold from the alien ship twice. Remember how she urges Perry to evacuate the Daily Planet building? It's not rocket science to deduce that the weapon that carved a scar in Superman's face (when nothing is able to), could be used to fight an entity that's emerged from a Kryptonian ship..
-Why the hell didn't Batman retrieve the spear (maybe using the Bat plane?) instead of luring Doomsday back to the original location?
He did. I think you're confusing the order of events. Batman first sees Doomsday when it had crashed landed. He goes for the spear, while simultaneously leading it back to the original location.
-Also, as HISHE explained. Superman and Doomsday were in space. Why didn't he just throw that monstrosity into space?
I really don't understand the question. This was Superman's first major point of attack; to "throw him in space." Even taking himself out if the need had arisen, which it did.
-Lois being the Damsel in distress and Superman saving her.
Lois had already proved to be a formidable ally, without the need of wearing tight leather. She's shown as a balbuster. She's also the first person to head into danger half the time. In fact, she rescues Superman twice in the film. But I guess the damsel in distress trope is really stuck in your frontal lobe for none of that to matter.
-Lex being so obsessed with Superman's death he will forgo his own security by unleashing Doomsday in front of himself and Superman.
It was a shock, even to Luthor, that his own blood child would try to kill him. Classic villainy usurped by their folly and blind want. How this bothered anyone is beyond me.
-Why the hell was the death of Superman even needed considering he is revived? Maybe this alleviates Batmans sadism by applying a no kill rule? Who the hell knows.
Without saying a word, and without spelling it out, the film killed "Clark Kent." I don't recall any comic book film where we see a pained mother of a dead hero. And the dialogue exchanged between Bruce and Diana was wicked, c'mon.
-Lastly...DING DING DING DING DING!
The best performance of his career. Tied with the music? And the painting in his daddy's office being flipped so the Devil is coming from the sky? That scene, and its allusion, was really fucking cool.
he writes movie reviews for the racist, homophobic conservative garbage that is National Review
PadWarrior
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Wow that write up is something else.
Ocarina_117
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Captin Quacker
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i agree, a good movie is a good movie with or without buildup
What intervention, he punched one guy and saves Lois. I took it as because superman took out these guys it led to a power vacuum allowing another group to attack a village. How was any of this Superman's fault and why would they blame him when these guys were killed with guns.
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