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I read all of that post before you editted :P

Yeah, I thought about it..I was a different person. Being honest and open can sound boisterous.
Id take it all back if I could.

And I disliked the free sites. First and really only girl I sae that was cute profile started like "I have Herpes"

Wtf..she was looking for another person with Herpes or someone who didnt care. I bailed out.
Free sites are great places to find Applebees dates.
 
I was talking to a female friend (side note: what is the correct term here? I'm refering to a friend that is a girl, but saying girl friend is too similar to girlfriend and female friend just sounds weird) and I told her that after 4,5 months of dating I have met my GFs parents, her sister many times (they live together), and my parents know about her and will probably meet soon. She told me "and you're that guy that always moves so slow, you're really fast this time". I'm confused, is this "moving fast"? It seems perfectly normal to me, even a bit slow honestly. Of course I realize every situation is different and it all depends on a lot of different factors, but generally this doesn't seem fast at all. What do you all think?


Hmm? Not fast at all I've been in a relationship for 6 months and met all her family and siblings within a couple months. Nothing to worry about..
 
Yeah I'm just finding it hard to put interesting/ eye catching stuff about me

With the video game stuff...I'm trying to say video games, but they don't dominate my free time. Trying to appeal to both the gamer and non gamer there, so I'm disqualified by either party. I feel like any one thing I mention, could disqualify me from get responded to, bc if I feel like I mention video games, someone who doesn't know, may just assume that's what I do with 80% of my free time

Eh...I think I was told by someone in here to mention what I do when I go on adventure, instead of being vague, so that's why I did that. The "wanna fight about it" was a reference to family guy (since it was in there profile) for humor sakes.

That's the problem, they aren't messaging me back. I'm not expecting half to message me back, but maybe like 1/3 or so. I don't want a low percentage like 10 percent

Don't be afraid of having women disqualify you for anything. That is not a bad thing. You should be honest and confident in what you like. It'll weed out girls you wouldn't get along with anyway, and the matches you do get will be stronger. Naturally, don't go overboard, and if you don't want girls to think you spend 80% of your time gaming, mention the things that you do spent 80% of your time doing.

When I said to bring up adventures, I was referring to your pics. Showing is always better than telling. And pics of you attending a county fair > pics of you standing in front of a door.

It's something you'll notice with girls' profiles. Everyone loves to travel and says they can't live without their passport. It's easier to believe it if they have a pic of them in another country.
 
It's something you'll notice with girls' profiles. Everyone loves to travel and says they can't live without their passport. It's easier to believe it if they have a pic of them in another country.
Yep. Show, don't tell.

Like travelling? Cool travel picture!
"I have a sense of humor." Make the profile funny instead!

Or, if you're really out of luck, edit your profile so that all your interests/values are 100% similar as the profile you're stalking. You can even go one step further and send them a message saying "omg did you just copypaste my profile? How do we have everything in common?!" This will make her fall in love with your personae and think she has actual chemistry with you (little does she know, hehehe..). This is guaranteed backfire-proof, and way easier than 'honesty' and 'being true to yourself' or 'be comfortable in your skin' or whatever other BS people spout nowadays. Word.
Yeah, I thought about it..I was a different person. Being honest and open can sound boisterous.
Id take it all back if I could.

And I disliked the free sites. First and really only girl I sae that was cute profile started like "I have Herpes"

Wtf..she was looking for another person with Herpes or someone who didnt care. I bailed out.
Free sites are great places to find Applebees dates.
What's the matter, your doppledanger technique didn't work out with her? "you have herpes? So do i!!!"
 
I could be absolutely wrong, I went on a TON of dates (3-5 a month) and have some wacky sex stories in the span of a year (and blew waaaaay to much money)..plus the only two I decided to "date" were and are crazy...

3-5 dates a month are a lot? Doesn't seem like much at all to me when one is single. Either way, sounds like a ton of effort as opposed to just using Tinder or Bumble.
 
Yeah I'm just finding it hard to put interesting/ eye catching stuff about me

With the video game stuff...I'm trying to say video games, but they don't dominate my free time. Trying to appeal to both the gamer and non gamer there, so I'm disqualified by either party. I feel like any one thing I mention, could disqualify me from get responded to, bc if I feel like I mention video games, someone who doesn't know, may just assume that's what I do with 80% of my free time

Eh...I think I was told by someone in here to mention what I do when I go on adventure, instead of being vague, so that's why I did that. The "wanna fight about it" was a reference to family guy (since it was in there profile) for humor sakes.

That's the problem, they aren't messaging me back. I'm not expecting half to message me back, but maybe like 1/3 or so. I don't want a low percentage like 10 percent


1. Alright that's good. Again I was going for humor there, but I can see where it might not of resonated...duely noted

2. There goes my bad humor again...I didn't think it anyone would seriously think I thought she lived in a hotel room....this is the stuff I'm kind of reduced to when there isn't much and it's either that or the genetic message. It wasn't great, I'll admit that

3. Yeah the asking out was too soon...was just changing it up to try something different...duely noted

4. Yeah it made me cringe too, but I wasn't sure where to go or how to inject good humor. Found it humorous that half of her pics had her wearing yoga pants, she was def loose if you know what I mean. Was bad humor again. Was saying I'll take the idea of her wearing yoga pants, but it didn't come through. Yeah I'm falling flat a lot of the time

I'm almost wondering if I'm trying to too hard at the humor and if it's just better to rely on very light humor or just mostly a genetic message

5. I actually did get message from her, but it was 5 hours later after she read it and we have been having decent convos since

6. Yeah, I was more hoping for a "haha yeah your right, or blue is the only thing I could find at the time" it was suppose to be more of an ice breaker, and then start a nice convo

I admit the humor is not great...probably below avg, so more to respond to. Got it

i really appreciate everyone's feedback, even if I disagree with some of it, better to see another perspective on it, than just me shooting in the dark

https://youtu.be/getHgCC6eAE
This is the humor I'm trying use (start at the 2:15 mark), bc I liked the video and it made sense to me , so this is what I've kinda been basing my messages on

With the video games stuff, you can't really go half way with it like that. You either mention it as a hobby with your other ones or you just don't mention it at all. Don't treat it differently than any of your other hobbies because it isn't some special snowflake that you need to worry about. It's just a hobby like anything else, unless you make it your life. If someone isn't going to respond to you because you play video games then they aren't really worth your time anyway.

I'm not surprised that the girl from 5 messaged back because like I said, it wasn't that bad of a message to me. The other ones however just came off like you were trying too hard to be funny. There's basically two ways to reliably get responses. You either go the AHealy route where you just spam the same default message to girls without caring or you send messages that include your personality and humor, not something you're trying to be. The default message thing works surprisingly well but it also isn't very personal. If you think you are a funny person and can get that across a message then do that instead of trying to emulate something you saw. Not everyone's humor comes across very well online though so it isn't always that easy to do.

For reference, I'm currently in a great relationship with someone that I met online a while ago but before that I did a whole lot of online dating for a while until I found someone I wanted to commit to.

Honestly your response rate is going to be quite low because of the amount of messages women get. It's just something that you'll have to get used to over time. It sucks because it makes you feel like people don't find you interesting but you just have to realize that women get a ton of messages and they don't have time to respond to everything so it isn't personal.
 
Are short replies a good sign? Bad sign? Oh and I have been making friends lately and in friday we're gonna go watch a movie so yeah.

Do the replies build and move the conversation along, or are they just curt responses to whatever you sent?

If you're asking questions and getting plain answers in return, that is not a good sign.
 
Well we were talking about this project she brought up and I made a comment on how the topic she chose was gonna be hard to talk about and then like 2 hours later she responded with "ikr"
 
Asking out someone while they're at work? Y/N?

Girl that works at the cafe across the road from me totally has the hots for me.

Well we were talking about this project she brought up and I made a comment on how the topic she chose was gonna be hard to talk about and then like 2 hours later she responded with "ikr"

Short replies can be a very bad sign, but if it's a once off thing she might just be busy.
 
Asking out someone while they're at work? Y/N?

Girl that works at the cafe across the road from me totally has the hots for me.



Short replies can be a very bad sign, but if it's a once off thing she might just be busy.

umm I would say no tbh... But out of everybody in this thread I prolly have the least experience but from what I've gathered people here seem to say that asking someone out on a date while they're at work isn't really a good idea and you should really make sure that she likes you and stuff, but I don't really know much seeing how I'm still a kid...

perhaps... But I think she might be in a bad mood, how can you tell if a girl's in a bad mood? Like what would you say to see if she really is in a bad mood?
 
Asking out someone while they're at work? Y/N?

Girl that works at the cafe across the road from me totally has the hots for me.

The go-to advice for asking out people who work in the service industry is to leave a note with your phone number. It helps minimize the awkwardness that comes from them knowing that you know where they work.
 
Soooo I found out the girl I'm seeing sells stolen gift cards. She gets them from some guy and she sells them to friends and coworkers and stuff. Am I right to be really bothered by this or am I being too uptight? It just feels so wrong and I don't like it. Or maybe I'm making a big deal out of it. Idk.
 
The go-to advice for asking out people who work in the service industry is to leave a note with your phone number. It helps minimize the awkwardness that comes from them knowing that you know where they work.

Yeah that seems pretty normal.

Might go again on my day off next week and if she still seems into me I'll leave her a note.

But what if a different server clears the table and doesn't give it to her? (eg, a guy she works with that has the hots for her)
 
Soooo I found out the girl I'm seeing sells stolen gift cards. She gets them from some guy and she sells them to friends and coworkers and stuff. Am I right to be really bothered by this or am I being too uptight? It just feels so wrong and I don't like it. Or maybe I'm making a big deal out of it. Idk.
I'd consider that a big deal. They're 'just' gift cards, sure, but it does say a bit about her character.
 
Soooo I found out the girl I'm seeing sells stolen gift cards. She gets them from some guy and she sells them to friends and coworkers and stuff. Am I right to be really bothered by this or am I being too uptight? It just feels so wrong and I don't like it. Or maybe I'm making a big deal out of it. Idk.
Personally I think that's extremely fucked up.

Have you talked with her about it?
 
Just making sure, a girl I messaged on pof stated she wasn't on there often so to message her on Facebook (probably a red flag as she doesn't care about privacy). I don't use Facebook and messaged her on pof stating as much.

3 days later get an "lol" from her, so I message back lightly commenting how she really doesn't check pof often. All I get back a couple hours later is "omggg".

That's something I really shouldn't pursue righ?

This is a different girl from the second date questions above.
 
I'd consider that a big deal. They're 'just' gift cards, sure, but it does say a bit about her character.

Yeah it does say a bit about her which is what bothers me. I don't put myself on some moral high ground but it's just wrong to me.

Personally I think that's extremely fucked up.

Have you talked with her about it?

I did and she just said I was being annoying and that it wasn't a big deal. I'm not super invested her honestly and this is like the second red flag, the first being that she can be really childish.
 
Being against selling stolen goods is not a particularly high moral ground. I would personally bail, especially if you factor in immaturity.

No, but I wouldn't write any response, just confirming my assumption.
Yeah, I wouldn't bother replying. Save your time and energy for people who at least make a minimum amount of effort to show interest
 
Is it expected to continue texting leading up to the first date? A girl on OKCupid agreed to a date this Sunday. In the past I've always kept the conversation going all the way up to a first date because it naturally happened that way with the girls I was talking to. But this girl frankly isn't all that interesting over text. Is going silent for a couple of days before the date a bad idea?
 
Yeah it does say a bit about her which is what bothers me. I don't put myself on some moral high ground but it's just wrong to me.



I did and she just said I was being annoying and that it wasn't a big deal. I'm not super invested her honestly and this is like the second red flag, the first being that she can be really childish.
What you described sounds very childish and fits that bill. Stealing from others and profiting off of others misery isn't a "big deal"...and YOU are the one being annoying? Sorry man, I know it stinks but thatcwould set me right off. I wouldn't put up with that
 
Is it expected to continue texting leading up to the first date? A girl on OKCupid agreed to a date this Sunday. In the past I've always kept the conversation going all the way up to a first date because it naturally happened that way with the girls I was talking to. But this girl frankly isn't all that interesting over text. Is going silent for a couple of days before the date a bad idea?

Nooooooo. Leave the talking for the actual date.

Set up a date, then shut up outside of a confirmation text the day of.
 
What you described sounds very childish and fits that bill. Stealing from others and profiting off of others misery isn't a "big deal"...and YOU are the one being annoying? Sorry man, I know it stinks but thatcwould set me right off. I wouldn't put up with that

Yeah this was pretty much the last straw. Her defense was that she's not the one stealing so it isn't a big deal. I was shocked. Why do I attract the crazies?
 
Just making sure, a girl I messaged on pof stated she wasn't on there often so to message her on Facebook (probably a red flag as she doesn't care about privacy). I don't use Facebook and messaged her on pof stating as much.

3 days later get an "lol" from her, so I message back lightly commenting how she really doesn't check pof often. All I get back a couple hours later is "omggg".

That's something I really shouldn't pursue righ?

This is a different girl from the second date questions above.

Using Facebook is a red flag? Now I've heard it all in this thread.


Well we were talking about this project she brought up and I made a comment on how the topic she chose was gonna be hard to talk about and then like 2 hours later she responded with "ikr"

She's just not that into you.
 
Just making sure, a girl I messaged on pof stated she wasn't on there often so to message her on Facebook (probably a red flag as she doesn't care about privacy). I don't use Facebook and messaged her on pof stating as much.

3 days later get an "lol" from her, so I message back lightly commenting how she really doesn't check pof often. All I get back a couple hours later is "omggg".

That's something I really shouldn't pursue righ?

This is a different girl from the second date questions above.

You serious?

What? Just...what?
 
Starting to think Ahealey is trolling us. What I just read can't be real

Goes some way to explaining the shit he keeps putting himself through though.

Some people create their own problems and now we know Ahealy is one of those people. He seeks out bad relationships through duplicitous/manipulative behaviour and then turns to others for help when the reality of his bad decisions/actions start to become too much for him to deal with...
 
Since I know online dating won't work what are good ways to meet girls besides bars/night clubs, I don't drink.

You don't have to drink to go to bars or clubs.

And how do you know online dating won't work? Admitting defeat before you've even started won't get you anywhere but wallowing in self pity.
 
I tried tinder for a month never got a single match after swiping on everyone. So its not for me.

Um, you do know online dating doesn't begin and end with Tinder right?

And if you didn't get any matches, maybe there was a problem with your pictures. Take some new ones, we can help if you need feedback on which ones to use.
 
1) Sort your pictures, get the advice of an honest friend. I showed my mate the ones I had on POF/OKC and he told me that a lot of them I was pulling a weird face/didn't look great.
2) Sort your profile. Make it a balance of funny/interesting. Try to avoid generic. Pretty girls can get away with generic, guys generally can't
3) Actually actively message girls. It's all very well waiting for Tinder matches or whatever OKC/POF's equivalent is, but you have to do the legwork

Basically if you're not incredibly physically attractive, dating sites take work. But there are so many people out there, and like you I'm not crazy about going to clubs/bars.

I've been using them on and off for about a year and got exactly one date. Which didn't end well. C'est la vi.
 
I think I'm attractive but I don't really have any good photos and my phone is like 5 years old.

So all I have is low-res selfies.

I think that's my problem on Tinder.
 
I think I'm attractive but I don't really have any good photos and my phone is like 5 years old.

So all I have is low-res selfies.

I think that's my problem on Tinder.

Webcam? Use the camera on your tablet?

Ask to borrow a friends phone, take the pics and email them to yourself. Lots of way around any roadblocks you might encounter if you're willing to look for solutions.
 
Hahaha I realised that upon uploading it and seeing it on my computer screen.

I'll clean it before doing a proper tinder photo.

Is a photo like that 'good enough' though?

You don't want 'good enough'. You want 'stands out'. By that metric, it isn't sufficient.

If you resign yourself to the mirror-selfie...close the shower curtains, remove the towels draped over the shower rod, try for a light source that doesn't harshly light the right side of your face...and do something to inject some of your personality. Goofy face, clothes that aren't a hoody, photoshop a poptart in place of your phone, have your life-size stand-up of Lenny Kravitz peeking from the shower...
 
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