This thread could definitely do with some rad Forge Map Gifs:
JUUUUMMMMPIIIINGGG FLASH!!!!
Halo Forge coming to Windows 10 later this year
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JUUUUMMMMPIIIINGGG FLASH!!!!
Lol I wouldn't care one bit god help me I can't play half life.
That's exactly what a PR people would say!
Blue Ninja
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At this point it's only a matter of time until we get a full Halo 5 release for W10. I'm guessing they'll announce it at E3.
I guess that would be a similar scenario, if Half Life 3 didn't release on XBox One, the PC map making community frequently requested to be able to create maps on the XBox One, and that map making tool was released a year later on the XBox One.
blue_phazon
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Here's a thought: maybe this was a highly requested feature and so 343's forge team did it.
But nah, it's just evil M$ giving the finger to PC gamers and saying "you wanted Halo on PC? Here's forge MUHAHAHAHA"
I sure hope so. Halo 5 on PC would be amazing.
Uiki
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We will see how many pc gamers are gonna buy it on UWA format (IF it comes to pc), then.
Bits N Pieces
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So MS PR statements saying that Windows 10 makes porting Xbox games very very easy (without any qualifications about tools or systems) are misleading? I had just taken them at face value up until now.
I think it is easy IF you built it when the Xbox switched its OS, MCC and Halo 5 were not built when that happened.
But their commitment to PC gaming...
I know, man. I am so excited to have features like mouse and keyboard. Truely pioneering PC features.
I think you reached Stage 2
BleedOrange
Banned
A lot? Did you even read the front page? People are begging for Halo on PC. And they're right, it's a great game, and PC gamers deserve it being on PC.
I think you're very confused about what is and isn't on the UWP right now. I'm not saying it won't happen, but Halo 5 was not designed or developed on the UWP. They are quite likely using legacy Xbox APIs.
Edit:
https://twitter.com/JoshingtonState/status/733331895606378496
LordRaptor
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I see it more as the entire corporate structure is supposed to be backing Windows 10 front and centre, and that includes the Xbox division.
This is the Xbox divisions attempt to avoid harder questions - like "what the fuck is your actual purpose, now?" - by throwing out some bones, while trying not to make Xbox One owners throw a tantrum.
The UWP is designed to make cross platform development easier. One has to first get the software running on the UWP for that to matter. Halo 5 was not developed as a UWP. Thus, the ease of UWP cross platform development does not apply to Halo 5. Does that make sense to you?
Microsoft Game Studios isn't necessarily as well funded as the rest of the company.
Which also goes along with why Phil is thinking about Future games and not past games
Mr.Marston
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Halo 5 will be on PC when Halo 6 comes out for Xbox
paragonpro
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Full halo 5 on pc with cross play would be incredible!
Uiki
Member
lolwat?
Halo 5 development began more than three years ago, before UWP existed, and further was a massive overhaul of an engine that still has some legacy code and elements going more than a decade back before that. It has zero relation to the scenario you describe.
Just curious, was the team expecting this sort of response to this announcement?
Im sure they braced for it knowing every reaction from the crowd whenever they announce anything for PC thats not a proper Halo.
BleedOrange
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I think you're factually wrong about the audience that wants Halo on PC. Avatar bet?
The moment i saw this thread I immediately knew that the reception was going to be anything but positive. Lose-lose scenario.
Better creation tools for the forge community? was that the purpose? Too bad normal people don't care about Forge and just want to play Halo on their platform.
I'll use it because I love the Forge tools but, man, this sort of announcement just doesn't come off as anything good overall. Caters to an very small fraction of Halo's audience.
Better creation tools for the forge community? was that the purpose? Too bad normal people don't care about Forge and just want to play Halo on their platform.
I'll use it because I love the Forge tools but, man, this sort of announcement just doesn't come off as anything good overall. Caters to an very small fraction of Halo's audience.
Sweet
ATOMICJORGE
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OK. I've been waiting to finish the fight since 2007. I can wait some more.
I wasn't referring to UWP by the way. MS PR has specifically said that Windows 10 makes it easy to port native Xbox One games to PC.
I do not believe for a second that Microsoft don't have the resources to port a game to PC. It's a deliberate decision rather than a question of inability to deliver a port, and has been for the entire Halo series since 1/2 released for PC.
Obviously MS are within their rights to do this, I understand the strategic reasons why they would withhold Halo from PC gamers, but lets not pretend there is anything else going on.
Complicated
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Fucking awesome. Halo 5 has been such a breath of fresh air for Halo and its support post launch is an example for all developers.
You may not have been, but that is exactly was MS was referring to.
I certainly was.
We have to work on things that are sustainable for the studio, and make sense for long term planning. This is something we wanted to do for Xbox One forgers for a long time and is of course an extension of the existing suite. This is a sustain beat for Halo 5 on Xbox One. It's certainly a big bonus that PC creators and players will get to play around in that sandbox, but that's not really the primary purpose of the tool.
We knew there'd be latent demands for a full version of the game (as there have been since H2 on Vista), but neither the time nor the finances make sense this far along the calendar. Halo Wars 2 will be a more palatable and straightforward example of the fact that we take PC gaming very seriously as an organization and a studio.
Uiki
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Oh yeah, sure.
They have this content creation tool in the game but making things on a controller is awkward, so they are building a better one with more precise input methods where you can sit behind a desk for hours and make content more efficiently and somehow that's offensive. right, kids these days.
RowdyReverb
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The impression I got was that it would be easy for apps to deploy on PC and Xbox, but I don't recall them saying much about porting games. Maybe I just don't follow this stuff as closely though
Makes' MS initiative on PC gaming even more backwards by putting a segment of a very demanded game on their platform that most people can't be assed to use anyway due to how backwards it is.
Shifty
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Fair point, but ultimately that comes down to strategy. If their approach involved doing an all-titles blitz of the PC platform, there's nothing to stop the distribution of funds from changing in order to make it happen.
On a different note, I feel like it's worth noting that zero specifics were given in regard to gameplay. As in, being able to actually jump into your forge map and test it using Halo 5 game mechanics.
This could just be a level editor intended to deploy maps to XBO for all we know. It would be a ridiculous notion, yes, but MS' PC efforts aren't exactly above that...
Anyway, if it does have gameplay functionality, then the Halo 5 engine is already being ported to PC in order to run it, just sans campaign assets and MP maps. No way they'd reimplement everything from the ground up just to power a fancy level editor.
BleedOrange
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Edit: Nevermind, I think I misunderstood.
If EA and Ubi can make money selling games on there stores, there's no reason to think MS couldn't making money selling Halo in theirs.
obviously Halo would sell better on Steam. But there's no reason to think it wouldn't be successful in the Win10 store, so long as it's a good port. MS would be enjoying a 100% cut of the revenues too.
Welfare
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Nope, this is pretty forward. This will help forgers and possibly bring in new talent because of it being a free Win10 app.
You're getting Halo Wars 2 on PC day 1 with the XB1 release, is that backwards?
I am very happy Halo Wars 2 was announced for PC, I am however curious how it will work out as it is on console too (micro and general control structure of the game) due to having controller support.
It does truly look like a step in the right direction that Microsoft have been saying the last couple of years.
Time will tell, but it sure is a start.
I guess E3 will tell us more about the future, at least for some upcoming games this year from Microsoft and their Xbox teams.
Edit: I also hope a lot of the issues with the store is fixed at this point, allowing more possibilities to tinker the game to our liking. Options for true fullscreen, borderless window and so on while also supporting SLI and whatnot properly.