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Seems she's the one who is thinking too far out and making sure Mad knows what her plans are. Seems Mad is just ensuring he's not embroiled in any stupid ass crap that he's been through before.

It doesn't help we're only drips of information either..

I get that what you're going for, Zackie, but you're ignoring key facts in favour of pushing a date at any cost.
 
Seems she's the one who is thinking too far out and making sure Mad knows what her plans are. Seems Mad is just ensuring he's not embroiled in any stupid ass crap that he's been through before.

It doesn't help we're only drips of information either..

I get that what you're going for, Zackie, but you're ignoring key facts in favour of pushing a date at any cost.

That wasn't my impression of what he said, but you may be right. I read his concerns as one of potential end of the relationship.

Regardless, this seems like a terrible pattern (dating au pairs who want to stay by getting green card) to get into. There are plenty of other options.
 
I dunno, I've always been told that eating before drinking made you get drunk slower.

If you want to get drunk "slower", alternate alcoholic drinks with glasses of water. By the end of the night, you'll drink half as much as someone who goes from drink to drink.

Or just don't drink. As big a concern whiskey dick is, getting so drunk you think unprotected sex and finishing inside her "even though she's on birth control" can be much, much worse.
 
That wasn't my impression of what he said, but you may be right. I read his concerns as one of potential end of the relationship.

Regardless, this seems like a terrible pattern (dating au pairs who want to stay by getting green card) to get into. There are plenty of other options.

Honestly, you could be right too. It's open to interpretation with the drips of information we're getting.

There's a date but before it even happens she says she's going to live in Barcelona in three years (how this even comes up in conversation, I'll never know...and who makes those kinds of plans that much in advance? I haven't even decided what I'll be eating tomorrow for fuck sake...) and then we find out he's been through a similar situation before.

This is the problem with texting daily before even meeting. You reach a point where you're talking about long term plans before you even have an idea of if you'll even get on in person. Keep texting to a minimum before you meet, it's really not that hard. People who say they need to text to feel comfortable before they meet just aren't worth the hassle. They try to force a level of investment through text that should only come after you've met in person.

And yeah, there's definitely a pattern here and it's one that needs to be broken.
 
You haven't even met this girl yet, correct? Don't you see how you're thinking way too far ahead and making excuses for not meeting? Are you the type to fall in love with Au Pairs from the Philippines really easy or something? Why not go out, and then see if all of this is worth worrying about?

If you two do end up falling in love, don't you think that you'll make concessions or comprises on where you'll be in 3 years?

Oh yeah I get your point, and I probably shouldn't think ahead BUT:

Seems she's the one who is thinking too far out and making sure Mad knows what her plans are. Seems Mad is just ensuring he's not embroiled in any stupid ass crap that he's been through before.

It doesn't help we're only drips of information either..

I get that what you're going for, Zackie, but you're ignoring key facts in favour of pushing a date at any cost.

This.

That wasn't my impression of what he said, but you may be right. I read his concerns as one of potential end of the relationship.

Regardless, this seems like a terrible pattern (dating au pairs who want to stay by getting green card) to get into. There are plenty of other options.

It's not a pattern. I have been with one au pair girl before, and this one would be my second au pair date. My real pattern though, of dating Filipino girls, isn't much healthier either I admit.
I have only had Filipino girlfriends, seven of them. And I have never had any of my relationships start out with 1st date, 2nd date, 3rd date and then go on from there, I guess it works differently with our Filipino culture, where everything goes much quicker, which can be a very bad thing, which I would like to not repeat.

I don't know you, your ex, or this new girl, but this sounds like a green card scenario (marry a foreigner so you can stay in their country).
My last relationship basically kind of turned into that by the end I think. The breakup wasn't only because of me not wanting to move to Sweden, but also all of the red flags, and me basically not being happy together with her anymore, and just feeling frustration.
 
Do you have a type/preference, Mad?

Seems you really like Filipino women or maybe I'm reading too much into things and there's just a crazy amount of Filipino au pairs in your neck of the woods,
 
I'm having a really hard time adjusting to single life. Seems like it's so difficult for me getting over my ex of four years, especially as she lived here. I have been throwing out furniture and been super depressed after coming back from my vacation. That's a combination of not having a girlfriend and missing my family in another country. I just can't go a day without giving my ex a slight thought, and sometimes it makes me wanna stay in bed, while other times I don't care. I just know that I don't trust my ex, that I don't ever want her back, and that I want to move on and be happy, and be with somebody I want to make happy and share moments with. I even think about fatherhood once in a while.


I know the feeling. Doesn't help that most of my friends are busy with being married/getting married or having kids. I just feel like the lone person out. I just miss being able to do anything with my ex....
 
Can we see your before and after?

Not gonna do that, but I will say I tried out what this OKCupid article says about looking away from the camera if you're a guy. I had a clear shot where I was looking at the camera before. The new picture is almost the same, except I'm looking off to the side (face at a three quarter angle or so). It's not a HUGE difference, but the bump in matches over the past few days is definitely noticeable.

Maybe it's just a fluke or something...it worked for me, though I certainly wouldn't try any of the other advice in the article (I wouldn't post a shirtless pic of myself ever, and I swipe left on cleavage shots because I find that shit really tacky).

I'm also getting slightly more likes on non-Tinder sites (again, not huge...more like 2-3 a day whereas I rarely had women making the 1st move before).
 
Do you have a type/preference, Mad?

Seems you really like Filipino women or maybe I'm reading too much into things and there's just a crazy amount of Filipino au pairs in your neck of the woods,

My preference is Filipino sure, but I would be just as happy with a Danish girl, a Spanish or wherever they are from. I don't mind, but our cultures need not to clash. I'm half Filipino myself if anybody need that information.

I know the feeling. Doesn't help that most of my friends are busy with being married/getting married or having kids. I just feel like the lone person out. I just miss being able to do anything with my ex....

None of my "friends" really have the time to hang out with me either, so I'm basically on my own for the most part.
 
Not gonna do that, but I will say I tried out what this OKCupid article says about looking away from the camera if you're a guy. I had a clear shot where I was looking at the camera before. The new picture is almost the same, except I'm looking off to the side (face at a three quarter angle or so). It's not a HUGE difference, but the bump in matches over the past few days is definitely noticeable.

I'm also getting slightly more likes on non-Tinder sites (again, not huge...more like 2-3 whereas I rarely had women making the 1st move before).

Huh, that's an interesting article.

Looking away and not smiling is the most effective for men. Never would have guessed that...
 
Not gonna do that, but I will say I tried out what this OKCupid article says about looking away from the camera if you're a guy. I had a clear shot where I was looking at the camera before. The new picture is almost the same, except I'm looking off to the side (face at a three quarter angle or so). It's not a HUGE difference, but the bump in matches over the past few days is definitely noticeable.

So basically, women are like gorillas and you shouldn't make eye contact.
 
Does anyone here in OC date anyone in LA? Or vice versa?

I get tons more matches for girls in LA, but I live in OC. I've gone on dates before, but it's such a huge PITA driving to LA from OC.
 
I should note that every other picture is exactly the same as before...and of course you probably don't want to look super serious in all your pics, my 2nd is the exact opposite (picture I took while traveling while looking directly and smiling).
 
Maybe try making a couple of platonic female friends. One thing that really helped me understand how to just talk to women was hanging out more and more with girls. I've never gone from friends with a girl to dating them or sleeping with them or anything like that, but the more I've sort of demystified them, the better I've gotten with women.

One thing it's really done is made women a lot less scary to me.

Every dude struggling out there should heed this advice.
 
Finally have a date for tonight

Met her on Okcupid on Monday. Talked that day for 45 min on the phone. I guess she is big into sex, so that's mainly what we talked about. And having been sending erotic texts for the past couple of days

I am meeting her after work today. We aren't going to her place, bc she doesn't believe in 1st dates there, so not sure where we are going.

Any suggestions?

One where pda can be had or more opportunity

Back up plan is dinner

She cancelled at the last hour :(
 
Because I'm bored and awaiting a response, regarding the girl I mentioned above.

Texted her this morning asking what her weekend plans were looking like, she responds a few hours later saying maybe busy/maybe relaxing. I then wait about an hour and ask if she wants to get together (didn't specify tonight or this weekend). She texted me about an hour ago (7 hours after my text) that we could do something tonight, I asked if she wanted to go for a drive or get a quick bite.

Its been like 45 min since then with no response. I'm fairly bored tonight, even before this, and now I'm a bit annoyed because she brought up getting together tonight first and is now MIA.

Edit: She just confirmed that she can't do anything tonight, started working on assignments.
 
Because I'm bored and awaiting a response, regarding the girl I mentioned above.

Texted her this morning asking what her weekend plans were looking like, she responds a few hours later saying maybe busy/maybe relaxing. I then wait about an hour and ask if she wants to get together (didn't specify tonight or this weekend). She texted me about an hour ago (7 hours after my text) that we could do something tonight, I asked if she wanted to go for a drive or get a quick bite.

Its been like 45 min since then with no response. I'm fairly bored tonight, even before this, and now I'm a bit annoyed because she brought up getting together tonight first and is now MIA.

Edit: She just confirmed that she can't do anything tonight, started working on assignments.

Move on with those delayed responses
 
Move on with those delayed responses

Eh, I would emotionally move on, but if he's into her I'd make a date and go out. The problem is that he seems to have all his eggs in one basket. I've currently got like 5 girls I'm talking with. Been out with 4, will probably repeat with 3, etc. Takes the edge off of a delated response.
 
She cancelled at the last hour :(

Reason? Did she suggest another time to meet or just cancel?

Eh, I would emotionally move on, but if he's into her I'd make a date and go out. The problem is that he seems to have all his eggs in one basket. I've currently got like 5 girls I'm talking with. Been out with 4, will probably repeat with 3, etc. Takes the edge off of a delated response.

Yeah, this seems to be a recurring problem. One woman shows interest, focus all their attention on her and it quickly derails because of things lije daily texting, etc.

So much wasted time, so much unnecessary investment, hand wringing, overthinking, etc...
 
Reason? Did she suggest another time to meet or just cancel?



Yeah, this seems to be a recurring problem. One woman shows interest, focus all their attention on her and it quickly derails because of things lije daily texting, etc.

So much wasted time, so much unnecessary investment, hand wringing, overthinking, etc...

You almost need to think of it as grinding in an rpg or something. Send out your messages to everyone at one time, check in every few hours, etc. Go on with your life, but set up dates when possible. The big thing is to have your own shit going on.
 
I approached a girl ok OKC, and she actually replied. Said she's interested in getting to know me and asked me if I knew about this kind of underground club/bar. I didn't, but it sounded cool on its website, so that's what I told her. And she was like: There's this event next Friday, do you want to come? Sure, I'd love to come, I said.

She hasn't responded in three days since I wrote that, and now I'm confused.
If she actually wanted to get to know me, surely she'd chat with me online, right? So why the sudden silence? Maybe she's the kind of person who would rather meet right away instead of using an impersonal text chat. But in that case, she would at the very least acknowledge what I wrote, right? "Looking forward to meeting you" or "Cool, so I'll see you there! or whatever.
 
You almost need to think of it as grinding in an rpg or something. Send out your messages to everyone at one time, check in every few hours, etc. Go on with your life, but set up dates when possible. The big thing is to have your own shit going on.

Agreed and the RPG analogy is pretty accurate too. Dating is the main quest, but you also have to take some time for a few side quests to build up your character. There's so much anyone can be doing at any given time. Going out with friends, attending meetups, watch a movie, playing videogames, working out, enjoying the nice weather, going for a walk, etc.

I approached a girl ok OKC, and she actually replied. Said she's interested in getting to know me and asked me if I knew about this kind of underground club/bar. I didn't, but it sounded cool on its website, so that's what I told her. And she was like: There's this event next Friday, do you want to come? Sure, I'd love to come, I said.

She hasn't responded in three days since I wrote that, and now I'm confused.
If she actually wanted to get to know me, surely she'd chat with me online, right? So why the sudden silence? Maybe she's the kind of person who would rather meet right away instead of using an impersonal text chat. But in that case, she would at the very least acknowledge what I wrote, right? "Looking forward to meeting you" or "Cool, so I'll see you there! or whatever.

She's either busy or she found someone she liked better.

It happens, don't dwell on it. Move on.
 
Agreed and the RPG analogy is pretty accurate too. Dating is the main quest, but you also have to take some time for a few side quests to build up your character. There's so much anyone can be doing at any given time. Going out with friends, attending meetups, watch a movie, playing videogames, working out, enjoying the nice weather, going for a walk, etc.



She's either busy or she found someone she liked better.

It happens, don't dwell on it. Move on.

^ Yeah, don't dwell on it - if she does respond, fine, if not - also fine!

Well, sure, that's possible. It's just that I still think it's kinda odd to simply stop responding like that. But whatever. Not dwelling on it, don't worry.
 
It's not really that odd, it's the world of online dating in a nutshell.

She's receiving multiple messages and likes per day and yours either got lost in the pile, someone she liked better messaged her or she just plain got bored of the whole thing and decided to step out into the real world.
 
Yeah, this seems to be a recurring problem. One woman shows interest, focus all their attention on her and it quickly derails because of things lije daily texting, etc.

So much wasted time, so much unnecessary investment, hand wringing, overthinking, etc...

You almost need to think of it as grinding in an rpg or something. Send out your messages to everyone at one time, check in every few hours, etc. Go on with your life, but set up dates when possible. The big thing is to have your own shit going on.

Can you guys PM me these posts 6 months ago? I probably wouldn't have listened anyway, maybe I just had to learn myself.

Date tonight! Mild cold but I'm not missing it.
 
Can you guys PM me these posts 6 months ago? I probably wouldn't have listened anyway, maybe I just had to learn myself.

Date tonight! Mild cold but I'm not missing it.

It's like when someone more experienced tells you not to do something because they know how it'll go but you do it anyway because sometimes you just have to experience things for yourself for the lessons to truly sink in.

I can't tell you the shit I went through that I was warned about in advance and still did anyway. Going to meet someone I met online in Brussels when they wouldn't even skype or talk on the phone only to get a text when I'm halfway there saying she had to cancel or when I became so invested in someone who only wanted attention and manipulated that to the point where she basically had me at her beck and call.

I was warned about these things by friends but still did them anyway. I'm not embarrassed about these things though, not at all, they were critical learning experiences and not having gone through them would have left me a lesser person as a result.

You must be new here...

Lol.
 
I approached a girl ok OKC, and she actually replied. Said she's interested in getting to know me and asked me if I knew about this kind of underground club/bar. I didn't, but it sounded cool on its website, so that's what I told her. And she was like: There's this event next Friday, do you want to come? Sure, I'd love to come, I said.

She hasn't responded in three days since I wrote that, and now I'm confused.
If she actually wanted to get to know me, surely she'd chat with me online, right? So why the sudden silence? Maybe she's the kind of person who would rather meet right away instead of using an impersonal text chat. But in that case, she would at the very least acknowledge what I wrote, right? "Looking forward to meeting you" or "Cool, so I'll see you there! or whatever.

Not every response needs an answer. Was "I'd love to come" the entire content of the message? She said she'd like to get to know you, so if that was it you're not really giving her much.

Chat. Ask her about the club maybe. Ask her about something on her profile. Anticipate her interests based on what you know about her and talk about something you might be mutually into. There's loads of ways to spark the conversation. Just be yourself. She's going to get to know you anyway if you meet and hit it off, so just be cool and talk how you would with your friends.

A great way to keep a conversation going is to always include a question. you need to seem interested, you need to give her a reason to reply don't just expect one.
 
Guys I feel fucking depressed, I thought this time she would be the one but I keep fucking it up every time, I want to move on but she is in my mind all the time and it feels so horrible.
 
Not every response needs an answer. Was "I'd love to come" the entire content of the message? She said she'd like to get to know you, so if that was it you're not really giving her much.

Chat. Ask her about the club maybe. Ask her about something on her profile. Anticipate her interests based on what you know about her and talk about something you might be mutually into. There's loads of ways to spark the conversation. Just be yourself. She's going to get to know you anyway if you meet and hit it off, so just be cool and talk how you would with your friends.

A great way to keep a conversation going is to always include a question. you need to seem interested, you need to give her a reason to reply don't just expect one.

You're arguing for one sided effort. You're basically telling him to talk at her rather than with her, that he do all the work and she just reply to his messages rather than actually engaging and asking questions herself.

Remember, she said she wants to get to know him. When someone says that to me, I don't expect everything to fall to me to educate them, I expect them to ask and engage me so I feel it's worth my time to tell them.
 
Because I'm bored and awaiting a response, regarding the girl I mentioned above.

Texted her this morning asking what her weekend plans were looking like, she responds a few hours later saying maybe busy/maybe relaxing. I then wait about an hour and ask if she wants to get together (didn't specify tonight or this weekend). She texted me about an hour ago (7 hours after my text) that we could do something tonight, I asked if she wanted to go for a drive or get a quick bite.

Its been like 45 min since then with no response. I'm fairly bored tonight, even before this, and now I'm a bit annoyed because she brought up getting together tonight first and is now MIA.

Edit: She just confirmed that she can't do anything tonight, started working on assignments.

Chick sounds like a flake but TBH you need to be more assertive in asking specifically "do you want to meet at x at y time?". If you had come out and said something like that instead of wishy-washy stuff, you would have seen right away if she is interested or not, rather than dealing with a day full of vague responses and have her "cancel" at the last minute with a bullshit excuse.
 
Eh, I would emotionally move on, but if he's into her I'd make a date and go out. The problem is that he seems to have all his eggs in one basket. I've currently got like 5 girls I'm talking with. Been out with 4, will probably repeat with 3, etc. Takes the edge off of a delated response.
I did message a few other girls yesterday, and potentially set up something for Saturday night with one of them, or Sunday if our schedules don't meet up Saturday.

So I'm working on it. I have been doing other things, but I'm not working currently as my town in Alberta was evacuated, so I'm back in Nova Scotia where no one else is on vacation.

And I didn't expect her to want to get together last night originally because she had practice. And I didn't want to set a time for the weekend because I'm not sure when I'll be back in town Saturday.
 
Not every response needs an answer. Was "I'd love to come" the entire content of the message? She said she'd like to get to know you, so if that was it you're not really giving her much.

Chat. Ask her about the club maybe. Ask her about something on her profile. Anticipate her interests based on what you know about her and talk about something you might be mutually into. There's loads of ways to spark the conversation. Just be yourself. She's going to get to know you anyway if you meet and hit it off, so just be cool and talk how you would with your friends.

A great way to keep a conversation going is to always include a question. you need to seem interested, you need to give her a reason to reply don't just expect one.

You're arguing for one sided effort. You're basically telling him to talk at her rather than with her, that he do all the work and she just reply to his messages rather than actually engaging and asking questions herself.

Remember, she said she wants to get to know him. When someone says that to me, I don't expect everything to fall to me to educate them, I expect them to ask and engage me so I feel it's worth my time to tell them.

I agree with Miles in this instance. I did write a bit more than just "I'd love to come", but she still did not respond. I don't want to have one-sided conversations like that. If she were indeed interested, she would have asked at least question during our brief conversation or at the very least acknowledged my last message. But she didn't. That's fine. I've moved on. If she replies at some point, cool. If not, whatever.
 
You're arguing for one sided effort. You're basically telling him to talk at her rather than with her, that he do all the work and she just reply to his messages rather than actually engaging and asking questions herself.

Remember, she said she wants to get to know him. When someone says that to me, I don't expect everything to fall to me to educate them, I expect them to ask and engage me so I feel it's worth my time to tell them.

Going on the information he gave us, he wasn't putting much effort in. IF we take his post literally (no reason not to), then he did a pretty poor job.

I'm suggesting effort on both sides, but we all know not every comment requires a response.
 
I think the most success with messaging I had was when I literally messaged every semi-eligible girl on POF whilst tipsy one night. Got all the messages. Might do it again tonight.

That grinding in an RPG analogy seems crass but it's probably quite close to the truth. You don't message 2-3 really attractive girls and expect a date.
 
Going on the information he gave us, he wasn't putting much effort in. IF we take his post literally (no reason not to), then he did a pretty poor job.

I'm suggesting effort on both sides, but we all know not every comment requires a response.

That would be a mistake, we've had plenty of examples where people drip feed information. Either out of embarrassment, not knowing what to share or just because they don't want to share too much information unless pushed.

And he's since posted that he did write more than what he initially posted. I simply think it's a mistake to put too much effort into someone who says they want to get to know you and then bails. She could have just as easily asked him a question rather than going quiet, so why does it fall to him to keep the conversation going?

As I said, when someone says they want to get to know you, it generally doesn't fall to you to put all the effort in. You don't just bombard someone with details about who are you. They ask, you share and it slowly turns into a conversation as you discover shared interests, etc.
 
That would be a mistake, we've had plenty of examples where people drip feed information. Either out of embarrassment, not knowing what to share or just because they don't want to share too much information unless pushed.

And he's since posted that he did write more than what he initially posted. I simply think it's a mistake to put too much effort into someone who says they want to get to know you and then bails. She could have just as easily asked him a question rather than going quiet, so why does it fall to him to keep the conversation going?

As I said, when someone says they want to get to know you, it generally doesn't fall to you to put all the effort in. You don't just bombard someone with details about who are you. They ask, you share and it slowly turns into a conversation as you discover shared interests, etc.

I only had the information he gave /at the time/, people need to be clear. You're saying don't make assumptions, but assuming he had said more is just that.

Anything could be happening their end, anything, and you're not the only person they'll be talking with.

Sometime you have to give the conversation a little push. I was chatting with a girl I hit it off with and she went quiet for a few days after my last message. So I simply messaged her again and asked if she was ok. She replied almost instantly and said "yeh, sorry, I'm dealing with some difficult family issues".

Turns out we were meant to be, we got together four months later.

I've had to give the conversation a little nudge sometimes and girls have had to do it to me. The conversation may be something you're focused on and excited about, but it may not be the most important thing in the other person's world.
 
Reason? Did she suggest another time to meet or just cancel?

When I talked to her on the phone on Monday, she mentioned that her mom passed away within the last month of so. And on Thursday, when I trying to hammer out the last details of the date, she mentioned she called into work bc she was sad. But assured me we would probably be going out

This is how it went down via text when she cancelled

Her: Hun, can we do another night? I just can't today. I'm sorry. :(

Me: Sure. Do have a certain day in mind?

Her: I don't.

Me: Do you want me to still call after work? (was suppose to so she could tell me where to meet her)

Her: I'm going to try to take a nap. I'm sorry, I'm just down today.

Me: Alright...ill text you tonight. It's alright

Her: Thank you.


I sent her a couple of texts last night, but no response and one this morning, but nothing yet

Feels like I'm being ghosted
 
When I talked to her on the phone on Monday, she mentioned that her mom passed away within the last month of so. And on Thursday, when I trying to hammer out the last details of the date, she mentioned she called into work bc she was sad. But assured me we would probably be going out

This is how it went down via text when she cancelled

Her: Hun, can we do another night? I just can't today. I'm sorry. :(

Me: Sure. Do have a certain day in mind?

Her: I don't.

Me: Do you want me to still call after work? (was suppose to so she could tell me where to meet her)

Her: I'm going to try to take a nap. I'm sorry, I'm just down today.

Me: Alright...ill text you tonight. It's alright

Her: Thank you.


I sent her a couple of texts last night, but no response and one this morning, but nothing yet

Feels like I'm being ghosted

Her mum just died... Chill.
 
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