Yeah that doesn't totally excuse people from voting Leave. I'm not going to pretend that was anything other than a fucking stupid thing to do
The UK votes to leave the European Union
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ferrasvansen
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Did they vote leave? If they did then tough.
HazySaiyan
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Them English immigrants coming into MY Scotland with their cricket, teas and crumpets. Plaguing us with their idiocy in politics, close minded xenophobia and stiff upper lips. Stealin' our jobs and lassies. Fuck sake...
Who are we kidding? Come upstairs guys! We welcome our neighbours down south with open arms! You've finally recognised Scotland for being the best part of the UK. Only took a while
Save me, Northern Neighbour!
Napoleonthechimp
Member
The same Irn Bru I bathe in?
Audioboxer
Member
Ah you're right. Our new members coming up from down South better get used to enjoying heart disease.
On a related note what is the deal with England not knowing what Chicken Pakora is?! I was in London and the Indians don't sell it.
I mean cmon. It's delicious.
ferrasvansen
Member
Chicken Pakora... <3
The last few days, somehow, leave supporters have morphed into this guy:
I remember the ridicule he suffered. I do wonder if that's how EU leaders are starting to view us. Brussels branded tanks have started to roll up; those who are able have have started their escape; yet everything is fine?
I remember the ridicule he suffered. I do wonder if that's how EU leaders are starting to view us. Brussels branded tanks have started to roll up; those who are able have have started their escape; yet everything is fine?
GeordieMark
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I live in London and my local Indian does a mean Chicken Pakora.
That'd be ridiculous. You're supposed to cleanse the English contamination, not consume it!
You can use literally every other kind of election to do a protest vote, a referendum isn't meant to do that. That's a stupid, immature, and potentially dangerous thing to do. Shocking to read this.
Spladam
Member
This is one of the more tragic plot twist(youtube), and made me think just how much our Nations have in common.
TheCrackInTime
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He is. I get that a lot of people really like Jeremy Corbyn, but he can't lead a parliamentary party that doesn't have confidence in him. The Labour Party cannot win a general election if our MPs and the leadership are not on the same page.
Audioboxer
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Thank goodness. I couldn't find any.
My friends in Ipswich had no idea it was a thing either.
Tak3n, I do genuinely applaud you for sticking around in the mounting face of criticism and (sometimes) ridicule when many other people who voted leave have run for the hills upon realising they fucked up.
BUT, I find it utterly bizarre that you won't abandon your previous position despite the truck loads of evidence, both past and present that the Leave vote was/is TERRIBLE for this country, TERRIBLE for your town and TERRIBLE for your own opportunities and prospects. I can sympathise if you're stuck in one of the areas of the country which is criminally underfunded and unloved, but voting out of the EU is quite rightly compared to shitting your own bed in protest and then having to sleep in it. Please tell me you finally see that?
BUT, I find it utterly bizarre that you won't abandon your previous position despite the truck loads of evidence, both past and present that the Leave vote was/is TERRIBLE for this country, TERRIBLE for your town and TERRIBLE for your own opportunities and prospects. I can sympathise if you're stuck in one of the areas of the country which is criminally underfunded and unloved, but voting out of the EU is quite rightly compared to shitting your own bed in protest and then having to sleep in it. Please tell me you finally see that?
No offence, but since you continuously voted Tory your area effectively voted to fuck itself. No sympathy whatsoever. You were their useful idiots.
If he goes, I'm done with British politics. The only beacon in an ocean of shit.
Bah, it's a thing, even in Ipswich, heck, we even get Pakora's out here in webbed toe land.
Watson is not as blinkered as Corbyn, he can see that the party will forever be divided between the PLP and members under Corbyn's leadership. The only way to make Labour an effective party is to find a unifying candidate who can take them forward, the referendum campaign makes clear that Corbyn is not willing to do what's best for the PLP and is happy to pootle along taking selfies with students in London while the party swirls down the political toilet.
Audioboxer
Member
By the way liking bagpipes is not required for entry to Scotland. I fucking hate the things.
Unless it's to drown out hate speech
https://youtu.be/JwLaDzKFiBY
Unless it's to drown out hate speech
https://youtu.be/JwLaDzKFiBY
Jimbob Smalls
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I've always said voting Leave wouldn't be the end of it, we're shaping up to a snap general election at this rate which will be fought on Leave or Stay. There must have been a doomsday scenario considered which looks to be playing out now.
Kill Your Masters
Member
What basically happened on a much larger scale if I follow your thought process: Your internet is slow because your provider sucks and he has a monopoly in your area, so you decide to burn down your whole neigbourhood "to shake things up a bit".
GamerMax73
Member
Fucking hell you guys are evil! How'd you not get done for war crimes? Can't I just have the waterboarding instead?
If that's the way it's got to be then I'm crossing the border as an illegal. You'll never catch, I'm dying my hair ginger and perfecting my accent as we speek - "och ey tha nooo"
ferrasvansen
Member
yeah folk like that have no right to complain about poor servives when they vote in a party of austerity which obliterated them, sorry but that is just pure stupidity.
Then given the endorsement the party gave him at a national level, maybe we need to find some new MPs.
With how fractured the Tories and Labour are right now, it could even go down to individual MPs saying how they would vote rather than a party line for those two. I'm not sure if that will help or hinder.
blazinglord
Member
You better hope they replace Corbyn then because Labour under him is so unelectable that the Tories will probably get an increase majority and it is my understanding that there are more euro-sceptic conservative MPs than pro-Europeans.
PJV3
Member
The only way the left can work and not be embroiled in power struggles is a PR voting system.
It is the system.
But this is precisely not the time to give up, too much is happening now to do that.
Hmm. Leave and fuck the country or stay and riots in the streets? I'm loving that choice. Thanks.
I hate to say it but, it would be the best for the party.
If Corbyn can't even unify his party, then what hope does he have to get the electorate on his side?
Unfortunately, Corbyn just isn't cut out to be the leader that's required at the moment. I don't think that goes against him as a person or politician though.
Exactly. Complacency will only get us more fucked in the end.
I saw UKIP voters on the Daily Mail asking for PR voting system. Was magical.
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I think that endorsement might not last given events, though. That said, if it does, the party will split, so new MPs is quite likely.
He has been the most ineffectual party leader in living memory. He has achieved nothing, and is completely and utterly unviable in terms of a general election. He has absolutely lost the support of the entire elected party officials base, from both left and right wings of the party. He also deliberately sabotaged the Labour Remain campaign because he doesn't believe in it.
At some point you have to realise the guy is just plain *bad*. It's very easy to say cool lefty things in a London suburb, but ultimately you need to get things done and get elected - and he isn't capable of either. He won't have enough MPs to actually fill the shadow cabinet at this rate.
The bigger you are, the harder you fall... the higher... you bounce back up?
TheCrackInTime
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You say that, but far more people voted for those MPs at the last election than voted for Jeremy Corbyn in the leadership contest. Those MPs have a mandate too.
Typical Facebook post today
"OKAY BY VOTING LEAVE WE MAY HAVE FUCKED THE ECONOMY AND DESTROYED THINGS IN THIS COUNTRY FOR A GENERATION BUT STOP WHINGING REMAINERS AND HELP US COME UP WITH A PLAN YOU FUCKING TWATS LETS UNITE AND MAKE GREAT BRITAIN GREAT AGAIN" #weneedaplan
Bravo guys. If only somebody had warned you.
"OKAY BY VOTING LEAVE WE MAY HAVE FUCKED THE ECONOMY AND DESTROYED THINGS IN THIS COUNTRY FOR A GENERATION BUT STOP WHINGING REMAINERS AND HELP US COME UP WITH A PLAN YOU FUCKING TWATS LETS UNITE AND MAKE GREAT BRITAIN GREAT AGAIN" #weneedaplan
Bravo guys. If only somebody had warned you.
Precisely.
There are a lot more Labour voters than there are members of the Labour party. If the MPs selected by the public do not have confidence in Corbyn, then he needs to go. He has had plenty of time and was given a chance to put himself out there and fight for the party on the issue of Europe. He failed, now it's time to get rid. He doesn't have the personality to unify the party and lead from the front.
Probably going even lower over the next 1-2 years until there is any meaningful bounce back
PJV3
Member
They could have been killed off as a party much earlier if the country wasn't so fucked.
I was tempted to vote leave myself, but I will not align with these fucking lunatics.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Yeah same. Pretty much all my spending is on hold outside of a PSVR, which I intend to flip for a profit.
Yeah I'm not voting Labour again if is he forced out, and I have never voted for anyone else.
blazinglord
Member
Oh please, the hyperbolic hysteria is getting ridiculous now. Calm down. Yes we are in uncharted waters, but whatever happened to our sense of adventure?
I genuinely believe that the final settlement will be an outcome that be something remainers and leavers can live with. What a lot of people seem to be forgetting is that the eventual goal of the EU was further political integration which a lot of remainers as well as leavers did not like the idea of. So it's probably better that the opportunity to reassess the situation happens now, rather than 10 or 20 years down the line when we will have become even more intertwined with the EU.
I voted leave, didn't expect them to win nor do I even expect it to mean complete secession from the EU but I have no regrets.
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