So I just went on my girlfriends ipad....

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OP, have you started packing or making plans? Do it while you still have the motivation, it'll only get more difficult from here.
 
A lot of you truly fail to recognize the importance of closure. In even my worst relationship where my ex cheated on me several times, I needed closure. I didn't realize it then, but I did.

She cheated on me with her ex almost a year into the relationship, and being my first love, I was devastated. I needed as much information as possible in order to feel better about the situation.

You'd think that details of the affair would make it worse, but in reality having a timetable and explanation, as obtuse and practically full-of-shit as the person might be, is oddly calming. Nothing worse than constantly wondering how many times the person did it, where, when, how, why, and whatever the hell else. Even if the answers are completely fabricated, communicating with the person who had gone from being my love to private enemy number one made me feel at ease, despite truly disliking her at the same time.

Could you possibly deal without ever having any of your questions answered? Sure! But not everyone is like that. I simply want to stress the point that closure is important and not an overrated concept.

To use an even more innocuous example to illustrate my point, I got out of a very healthy 3.5 years relationship 4 months ago and still felt the need to have closure. Neither one of us cheated on each other; instead we had a disagreement about how to proceed going forward with our responsibilities and dedication to pursuing higher education and how our relationship would fit in. It ended swiftly once I said it wouldn't work out following a week's long break at her behest in order to consider how much free time we'd each have. The point is, it ended so quickly and with very little communication that I sometimes still feel like I didn't have enough closure, that we didn't share our feelings with one another as much as we should have.

We still speak once in a blue moon to inquire how the other is doing, but never do we talk about the relationship or breakup. For the first three months it was awful. I had depressive bouts where I wondered where things went wrong, but neither of us never communicated as much as we should have. Today I feel magnitudes better and would consider myself almost completely over it, but it wasn't easy.

The point is that closure is very important to a lot of people. Whether or not it is to you, OP, is a different story.
 
OP, aren't you at least curious about what she has to say? I'm not talking about an excuse, explanation, nothing like that.
Just to see what the fuck she has to say.

The flood of I'm Sorry texts will provide him that (with added lies no doubt) without the million problems that a mature conversation would provide.
 
To be honest I'm sure my dick was not the reason. If it had been I'm sure she would never have kept sleeping with me at the start.

Ultimately she was unhappy, if she was 100% happy she wouldn't need to look elsewhere. Maybe it was the routine the relationship had become, maybe she was bored of the sex, maybe she was bored of me and just fancied someone "fresh", sex is always different with someone new.

Or perhaps she's just one of those people that's incapable of being faithful. Regardless of the reason, if she was unhappy she should have just ended the relationship in my opinion.
Boom, there you go
You go out there, say your piece and be like this is over, I mean what are you going to do when she climbed in bed with uou
 
I don't think it can backfire at the OP anymore. He knows what he saw. And he knows its over.
It's so hard to control your emotions and actions when you are dealing with a person you truly love and care about.

I disagree. There's still a chance the OP makes a different decision. Nothing to do with him, it's just human nature. We want things to be better.
 
Once you're set to leave tomorrow, text her and tell her you've been thinking a lot about her and have a special surprise when she gets home. Then just leave a note explaining and a box of tissues.

It'll be the coldest night she's ever had.

If you want revenge of course.
 
To be honest I'm sure my dick was not the reason. If it had been I'm sure she would never have kept sleeping with me at the start.

Ultimately she was unhappy, if she was 100% happy she wouldn't need to look elsewhere. Maybe it was the routine the relationship had become, maybe she was bored of the sex, maybe she was bored of me and just fancied someone "fresh", sex is always different with someone new.

Or perhaps she's just one of those people that's incapable of being faithful. Regardless of the reason, if she was unhappy she should have just ended the relationship in my opinion.

Maybe she is happy with you but she seeks something you don't give her because whatever reason. Seriously, shouldn't you talk to her before ending something which might be a beautiful relationship?
 
Maybe she is happy with you but she seeks something you don't give her because whatever reason. Seriously, shouldn't you talk to her before ending something which might be a beautiful relationship?
A beautiful relationship with someone who lies and cheats behind your back? Lol
 
Once you're set to leave tomorrow, text her and tell her you've been thinking a lot about her and have a special surprise when she gets home. Then just leave a note explaining and a box of tissues.

It'll be the coldest night she's ever had.

If you want revenge of course.
Some you motherfuckers are savage but would also not do the things you suggest. lol
 
OP, have you started packing or making plans? Do it while you still have the motivation, it'll only get more difficult from here.

Plan as of now is to contact the letting agents and see if there's a way out of my lease agreement.

i don't want to live here, and certainly don't want to keep paying if I'm not there.

Throw her shit out and find a roommate

I can't. I've not got more right than her. Both our names are on the agreement and we went 50/50 on the deposit and advance etc
 
Maybe she is happy with you but she seeks something you don't give her because whatever reason. Seriously, shouldn't you talk to her before ending something which might be a beautiful relationship?

Not if he can't trust her. If there's no trust then there's never a beautiful relationship.
 
Once you're set to leave tomorrow, text her and tell her you've been thinking a lot about her and have a special surprise when she gets home. Then just leave a note explaining and a box of tissues.

It'll be the coldest night she's ever had.

If you want revenge of course.
Not if she invites mystery dick over
Which OP is going to have to come to terms with at this point it was heading in that direction
 
Once you're set to leave tomorrow, text her and tell her you've been thinking a lot about her and have a special surprise when she gets home. Then just leave a note explaining and a box of tissues.

It'll be the coldest night she's ever had.

If you want revenge of course.

Bruhh, I love it! OP listen to this man or woman.
 
Maybe she is happy with you but she seeks something you don't give her because whatever reason. Seriously, shouldn't you talk to her before ending something which might be a beautiful relationship?
I honestly dont know how many times he has to say he just not interested in doing that.
 
Once you're set to leave tomorrow, text her and tell her you've been thinking a lot about her and have a special surprise when she gets home. Then just leave a note explaining and a box of tissues.

It'll be the coldest night she's ever had.

Dang, that's cold.

It kind of avoids the confrontation, the arguing, the emotions. This might not be a bad idea.
 
Maybe she is happy with you but she seeks something you don't give her because whatever reason. Seriously, shouldn't you talk to her before ending something which might be a beautiful relationship?
Bro i'd like to believe that you're not actually writing these comments and you're keyboard was transported to an 80's cuckolding dating advice coach.
 
Maybe she is happy with you but she seeks something you don't give her because whatever reason. Seriously, shouldn't you talk to her before ending something which might be a beautiful relationship?

Jesus man, you're like a polygamy Jehovah's witness.
 
Just tell the truth and see what her reaction is. Good luck op.

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edit a bit late... should probably read up on what happened.

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Also good advice:
You're an adult, OP, not a teenager, so don't do any of the petty shit advised here.

Take screen caps of the entire conversation and the dick pic and send them to yourself. Keep that as a record of what happened. Once you're clear of the relationship, delete it. You want to screen cap it so she can't delete it and make excuses.

When she gets home, have an adult, non-passive-aggressive conversation about it. Tell her the truth about how you found the texts, ask her what it's all about, and tell her that it violates your trust, and you aren't comfortable continuing the relationship.

You guys are on the lease together, so that's messy, but how long is your lease? If it's ending soon, perhaps you can ride out the lease together, then one of you doesn't renew it. I know you were wronged, but if you want to break as cleanly as possible, do whatever's easier. If she agrees to move, good. If she doesn't agree to move, you move, and then never speak to her again. Do that either way. The point is that you don't want to drag this out more than necessary. Another option is maybe talking to the landlord and explaining the situation, and maybe the lease agreement can be amended in whatever way you guys choose.

I know the bros want to tell you that she should be the one to move, fuck her, etc etc, but in my age, I think it's best to try and resolve it as smoothly as possible so you can get to the "moving on and putting her in the past" part quickly. You moving out doesn't mean she "won," or got over on you somehow. Her moving out doesn't mean you "won." You're adults. You just want to get out of this relationship as cleanly as possible. Good luck!
 
Bro i'd like to believe that you're not actually writing these comments and you're keyboard was transported to an 80's cuckolding dating advice coach.


Jesus man, you're like a polygamy Jehovah's witness.

I really don't want to promote polygamy or whatever. I just think he should talk first before doing something that is grounded in anger. What's wrong with finding out why before ending a relationship? Come on...
 
Bro i'd like to believe that you're not actually writing these comments and you're keyboard was transported to an 80's cuckolding dating advice coach.

Lol

Some terrible advice itt, but this Gaf. I'd be shocked if any of these "relationship experts" have been in a relationship that lasted longer than 6 months.
 
I really don't want to promote polygamy or whatever. I just think he should talk first before doing something that is grounded in anger. What's wrong with finding out why before ending a relationship? Come on...

From the sound of it, that's exactly what the OP is doing. Figuring out the lease situation and making up your mind about leaving does not necessarily mean he can't talk to her about it.
 
There is so much bad advice in here. How do you all go through life? Running away from every confrontation? Wtf.

Well for me personally I only bother with confrontations that will change something.

I don't want to be with her after this, a confrontation isn't going to change anything.

I gave a silly example earlier about road rage, many people will get into a confrontation over someone cutting them up, they'll bang their horn, swear, get out of the car, and all for what?

Me now I leave the other drivers to it, while I just keep cruising along.

Or look at people in online games who will abuse each other, I don't react, what's the point. When I'd play online (before most people were in party chat) I'd encounter people throwin racist remarks, or telling me what they were going to do to my mother. I just ignored it, reacting will just get your blood pressure up and won't change anything.

I'm not a complete pushover though, if I feel a confrontation will change something then I'll do it.

Going back to my situation, if I bring it up now, and it ends up in an argument or stays calm what can I achieve out of it? Answers? I don't care about why she did it, she's done it it now, and that's it for me.

I don't care about excuses or justifications, I'm done. There's nothing that she could say, no reason that she could put forward that would make me change my mind.

And who know's maybe she's happy with it, maybe she'll end up with WhatsApp Dick (with motorbike profile picture). Good luck to her, he can then get angry and confront her when she likely does it to him....
 
I'm all for finding out why she did it, but I'd still break up with her. The trust is gone. OP clearly said he wouldn't be able to trust her the same again.
 
Good luck OP. You need a lot of patience tonight, but I can't really see how you're be able to sleep without confronting her. Hope you can.
 
One thing I've discovered from this thread is that dudes in open relationships are worse than vegetarians when it comes to spreading the message.

Is this necesary?

Still, I laughed since I'm a vegetarian also. How worse does this makes me on a scale from 1 to 10? :)
 
Well for me personally I only bother with confrontations that will change something.

I don't want to be with her after this, a confrontation isn't going to change anything.

I gave a silly example earlier about road rage, many people will get into a confrontation over someone cutting them up, they'll bang their horn, swear, get out of the car, and all for what?

Me now I leave the other drivers to it, while I just keep cruising along.

Or look at people in online games who will abuse each other, I don't react, what's the point. When I'd play online (before most people were in party chat) I'd encounter people throwin racist remarks, or telling me what they were going to do to my mother. I just ignored it, reacting will just get your blood pressure up and won't change anything.

I'm not a complete pushover though, if I feel a confrontation will change something then I'll do it.

Going back to my situation, if I bring it up now, and it ends up in an argument or stays calm what can I achieve out of it? Answers? I don't care about why she did it, she's done it it now, and that's it for me.

I don't care about excuses or justifications, I'm done. There's nothing that she could say, no reason that she could put forward that would make me change my mind.

And who know's maybe she's happy with it, maybe she'll end up with WhatsApp Dick (with motorbike profile picture). Good luck to her, he can then get angry and confront her when she likely does it to him....

Don't let anyone tell you how to approach this shit. It's completely up to you.
If you want to ghost her that's your call. If it makes it so you can deal with this shit more efficiently then so be it.

She'll know what she's missing soon enough. Put it behind you and keep your chin up.
 
She haven't asked you anything yet?
 
Well for me personally I only bother with confrontations that will change something.

I don't want to be with her after this, a confrontation isn't going to change anything.

I gave a silly example earlier about road rage, many people will get into a confrontation over someone cutting them up, they'll bang their horn, swear, get out of the car, and all for what?

Me now I leave the other drivers to it, while I just keep cruising along.

Or look at people in online games who will abuse each other, I don't react, what's the point. When I'd play online (before most people were in party chat) I'd encounter people throwin racist remarks, or telling me what they were going to do to my mother. I just ignored it, reacting will just get your blood pressure up and won't change anything.

I'm not a complete pushover though, if I feel a confrontation will change something then I'll do it.

Going back to my situation, if I bring it up now, and it ends up in an argument or stays calm what can I achieve out of it? Answers? I don't care about why she did it, she's done it it now, and that's it for me.

I don't care about excuses or justifications, I'm done. There's nothing that she could say, no reason that she could put forward that would make me change my mind.

And who know's maybe she's happy with it, maybe she'll end up with WhatsApp Dick (with motorbike profile picture). Good luck to her, he can then get angry and confront her when she likely does it to him....

She's done it once, she'll do it again. I think you're doing it right, staying calm will help.
 
4 years is not an insignificant amount of time, OP.

I dunno...I just can't believe you won't regret not having talked/argued about it in the future. Get answers while you can.
 
This is only based on my experience but from what I've seen women do this if they don't get enough attention in a relationship and feel neglected emotionally. Assuming they're not crazy.

Some guy comes along, charms her and makes her feel special and before you know stuff starts happening behind your back.

best of luck OP, I've been in a similar situation and it's a pretty crappy feeling.
 
To be honest I'm sure my dick was not the reason. If it had been I'm sure she would never have kept sleeping with me at the start.

Ultimately she was unhappy, if she was 100% happy she wouldn't need to look elsewhere. Maybe it was the routine the relationship had become, maybe she was bored of the sex, maybe she was bored of me and just fancied someone "fresh", sex is always different with someone new.

Or perhaps she's just one of those people that's incapable of being faithful. Regardless of the reason, if she was unhappy she should have just ended the relationship in my opinion.

sometimes people cheat because they don't feel desired sexually by their partner, like they're taken for granted, which is something that can happen when you fall into a routine, regardless of love. This isn't justification, but sometimes there are reasons beyond just being bored or being a shitty person.
 
To each their own but I think just up and walking out without saying anything is the wrong move to make. Even if the end game is the same, better to talk it out.

I see many people suggesting the need to talk to get closure, but that's a subjective position. I personally don;t get closure from highly emotionally charged conversation. What was said, the feelings I experienced, eat away at me. Personally clean break is best. That said I would still advocate some communication given how long they've been together. Sounds like they're on a lease together, they could have other accounts/assets intermingled. There's boring real life things that have to be sorted out.
 
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