Behold Nintendo Switch (March 2017, Hybrid w/ Dock, Detachable Controllers, Nvidia)

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I was thrilled this morning, but now I'm kinda worried that they produced a handheld without touch for the Japanese market and another underpowered home console for the Western market. I'm going to assume I'll be more obviously wrong as more details emerge.
 
Manoko said:
I know it became a meme, but Nintendo is doomed.

They are too prideful as a company and thus wanted to create an improved concept for a tablet centered console (like the Wii U), couldn't apparently understand that the market for tablet is already lost and volatile.

Now you have a handheld console that will most likely have a poor battery life, be bulkier than their competitors, and can't compete with home consoles from competitors either in terms of power, so porting for it would mean releasing a significantly trimmed down version of the game graphically.

This makes no sense to me.
You can actually see in the trailer that most of situations depicted that would make you leave your gaming session at home but yet continue to play are far-fetched: you won't see friends calling for you at your window and be forced to take your game with you instead of spending time with them. You won't want to play in the park while you walk your dog.

This is so dumb to me.
I'm sorry, I'm so disappointed.
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I dunno. Just look at all those people playing Pokémon Go while walking their dogs. Who knows? Maybe the Switch will become a phenomenon similar to Pokemon Go. Although I'm not counting on it.
 
randomengine said:
PS4 and XBO exists for those who want to be tethered to their television.
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They don't have first party Nintendo games.

The day the Switch bombs just like the Wii U did, and it has no third party support, maybe Nintendo will once again put all their hopes and dreams on a dead market/idea for their hardware and then will go third party.

Would be awesome.
After Wii/Wii U/Switch, it's been too many years I've been completely puzzled and disappointed by Nintendo's hardware decisions.
 
Are people seriously trying to make claims that Switch will be weaker than Wii U even in handheld mode and on par or only a tiny bit better when docked?

And this 504p crap? Nintendo wouldn't waste money on 720p screens if their tech couldnt handle that. I can't believe this.
 
Scrawnton said:
Are people seriously trying to make claims that Switch will be weaker than Wii U even in handheld mode and on par or only a tiny bit better when docked?

And this 504p crap? Nintendo wouldn't waste money on 720p screens if their tech couldnt handle that. I can't believe this.
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"Weaker than Wii U" is a load, but I can absolutely see some graphically intensive third party games going with 540p or other sub 720p resolutions, but never first party.
 
daTRUballin said:
I dunno. Just look at all those people playing Pokémon Go while walking their dogs. Who knows? Maybe the Switch will become a phenomenon similar to Pokemon Go. Although I'm not counting on it.
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Look at the number of Pokemon Go players dropping really fast though.

This market you're talking about it extremely volatile, maybe they'll sell a lot of Switch during the first few months because of excitement/hype/word of mouth, but without third party support it will be left to die because most of these people won't buy the first party Nintendo games, just like they did for the Wii.
 
randomengine said:
Touch-screen games will be impossible to play on your television without a controller solution or alternative controls.
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So...

Does it matter if some games are exclusive on the Tablet only or if some games can be enhanced. Why does everything need to be 1:1 between docked and undocked.
 
Ishida said:
We still don't know, and probably won't know for sure for a few more months.

Zlatan, an user from Anandtech and apparently "in the know", claims the Switch is "3 times slower" than the Xbox One, and that has pretty low bandwidth, which will limit the console's capabilities.

He also claims, and take this with a grain of salt despite Zlatan's apparent 'credentials', that Nintendo's lowest allowed resolution for games will be 504p, and that many games will "upscale" from that resolution.

We'll just have to wait and see.
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I totally believe that!

Seriously, who the fuck would believe that?
 
Manoko said:
You have handheld gaming for that though.

No reason to completely limit home console gaming just for the rare times you'll have to go outside and play.
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Yes, there is handheld gaming for gaming on the go but until how there was a difference in the library between console and handheld games for Nintendo. As a child, I would have loved the ability to continue my OoT, Perfect Dark, or Majora's Mask gaming sessions when I had to leave my house but it simply wasn't possible.

lemmykoopa said:
Nobody in their right mind would play a legit game like zelda while taking our their dog. Some Facebook, WhatsApp, maybe a quick Sudoku puzzle.

Also kids these days don't care about Zelda.
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Perhaps I'm just weird but I don't see anything wrong with gaming to play a legit gaming session while doing something as walking the dog. Of course, I've never walked a dog before so I have no idea as to how much attention that would require.
 
Manoko said:
They don't have first party Nintendo games.

The day the Switch bombs just like the Wii U did, and it has no third party support, maybe Nintendo will once again put all their hopes and dreams on a dead market/idea for their hardware and then will go third party.

Would be awesome.
After Wii/Wii U/Switch, it's been too many years I've been completely puzzled and disappointed by Nintendo's hardware decisions.
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Yeah awesome.....

Awesome like what happened to SEGA when they went third party. You are delusional. Don't shitpost and cheer for something to fail. We should all want Nintendo to succeed.

Gaming diversity took a shit when SEGA left the hardware space. We had Crazy Taxi and Jet Set Radio and all manner of crazy awesome gaming ideas. Now we have FPSs and third-person action-adventures and little else.

If you don't like the system and from your shitposting I can tell your hobby is to pray for it to fail, go somewhere else.
 
So, do we want a giant full blowout, or a steady consistent stream of hardware info and software unveils? Part of me thinks the latter could be a pretty novel way of doing things that would really hype things well. A dedicated switch channel showing off features and software weekly.
 
FantasticMrFoxdie said:
I hope the hardware is sturdy. Could be terrible if they go a cheaper/flimsy route.

Although Nintendo has a good track record with sturdy stuff
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OG DS is crafted from the strongest of Nintendium. I don't think material quality will really be an issue. But the display should have the newest gorilla glass to prevent scratches for the screen.
 
Nintendo's future-generation console already entering early stage development, codename "Circuit Breaker" will likely be named Super Switch.
It'll be based on the Tegra Xavier SoC and will launch alongside an SCD containing a custom mainstream Volta GPU. Targeting a late 2019 or early 2020 release.

j/k
 
randomengine said:
Yeah awesome.....

Awesome like what happened to SEGA when they went third party. You are delusional. Don't shitpost and cheer for something to fail. We should all want Nintendo to succeed.

Gaming diversity took a shit when SEGA left the hardware space. We had Crazy Taxi and Jet Set Radio and all manner of crazy awesome gaming ideas. Now we have FPSs and third-person action-adventures and little else.

If you don't like the system and from your shitposting I can tell your hobby is to pray for it to fail, go somewhere else.
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If you think a 3D Mario, a Zelda or any other first party from Nintendo wouldn't sell on PS4/Xbox one, you're the one who's delusional.

And I'm sorry if I'm making you sad by wishing Nintendo the worst of successes with this Switch thing, but that's my way of saying they should stop with this mentality of always pursuing volatile and gimmicky markets. They apparently need a huge slap in the face to wake up from this pipe dream, since not even the huge fail of the Wii U (which I bought) wasn't enough to turn them down on tablet based gaming.

It still baffles me that this Switch is a Wii U you can take on the go basically.
Do they really think the Wii U failed because of being tethered to a TV ? What is wrong with Nintendo's hardware team.
 
Manoko said:
They don't have first party Nintendo games.

The day the Switch bombs just like the Wii U did, and it has no third party support, maybe Nintendo will once again put all their hopes and dreams on a dead market/idea for their hardware and then will go third party.

Would be awesome.
After Wii/Wii U/Switch, it's been too many years I've been completely puzzled and disappointed by Nintendo's hardware decisions.
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Along with the whole Nintendo is doomed thing, that's like two memes you've expressed in the space of two pages. :P

Real talk though: the sentiment of wanting Nintendo to do badly - or hell, any of the Big 3 - because they're not giving you what you want is something that has always amazed me. Surely it benefits the industry if all three are healthy and making consoles?

Without sounding too combative, maybe they're just not for you anymore.
 
battery is going to main concern for me. Everything that detaches requires an internal battery, from the tablet, the 2 little joy controllers, the grip thing, to pro controllers. It'd also be a design flaw if any of those things use disposable batteries.
 
I like the concept as long as screen quality and battery life are both decent. The name and logo are absolutely terrible though. God, why is the logo on the dock so big; it screams Domino's Pizza, not sleek new videogame system.
 
The other route for Nintendo, for the same damn price (if this thing is priced around 250-350$) would have been an AMD Polaris semi-custom chip, with a CPU stronger than XBO/PS4, for a home console between PS4 and PS4 Pro level of performance.

This would have meant: easy port from current consoles (if the architecture Nintendo chooses isn't wonky), breathtakingly beautiful first-party games, a console capable of VR if Nintendo decides to do it in the future.

No wonder RDR2 isn't on Switch.
And it will be the same for Mass Effect Andromeda, and every other big multiplatform game.
 
Probably been mentioned before, but there appears to be a microphone hole in the promo images that's missing in the units from the video. It's at the bottom of the screen towards the left.

Has anybody been able to see what kinds of ports are on the bottom of the pad? I'm hoping they'll allow for USB charging.
 
Manoko said:
It still baffles me that this Switch is a Wii U you can take on the go basically.
Do they really think the Wii U failed because of being tethered to a TV ? What is wrong with Nintendo's hardware team.
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What about buying a game once and having it on two platforms?

No need to weigh buying Smash 3DS and Smash Wii U. No buying NSMB2 and NSMBU. No Kart 7 and Kart 8.

No wishing you could play Pokemon on your big screen TV. No wishing Monster Hunter could run in HD instead of this little portable device.

Everything you buy is already on two different devices, conceptually.
 
If we do abbreviate it, I vote the NiS or something.

Anyway, this product sings to me. For some reason I'm getting sick of console games. I don't want to sit in front of my TV and invest loads of time into a game. Also, being a bachelor, I only have one tv so when a girl comes over 9/10 she wants to watch tv/use my computer which is hooked up to my TV and some of those times I want to play video games. She's leaving if I say "Sorry, not today. I want to play Super Mario". Also, in the office we talk about playing Smash Bros all the time but there's no TV in the office. If I could just plop a Switch down (I want to say NIS) we can get playing then that's fantastic! I'm sick of playing Piano Tiles during my breaks. :/

Also in Japan it's very common for a girl to say "let's just drive around" then you end up driving around for a good 30 minutes before you park somewhere and then talk for literally 3-4 hours. I'd rather whip out an NiS (used it lol), throw on Mario (everyone loves Mario) and not fumble with my Japanese for hours straight. All-in-all I'm excited man. I don't care about graphics because I'll be going with the Scorpio/Switch combo. Only thing that concerns me is am I supposed to put this thing in my pocket? Do I need to buy a backpack? I mean I was planning on buying one anyway because my motorcycle should be here in February and I need to carry things but for people that don't plan on buying one what are they supposed to do? Tape it to their chest?

9/10 product.
 
Boss★Moogle;220939110 said:
I like the concept as long as screen quality and battery life are both decent. The name and logo are absolutely terrible though. God, why is the logo on the dock so big; it screams Domino's Pizza, not sleek new videogame system.
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I agree with the look of it on the dock but the name is pretty cool imo. The dominos part is true lol.
 
Manoko said:
If you think a 3D Mario, a Zelda or any other first party from Nintendo wouldn't sell on PS4/Xbox one, you're the one who's delusional.

And I'm sorry if I'm making you sad by wishing Nintendo the worst of successes with this Switch thing, but that's my way of saying they should stop with this mentality of always pursuing volatile and gimmicky markets. They apparently need a huge slap in the face to wake up from this pipe dream, since not even the huge fail of the Wii U (which I bought) wasn't enough to turn them down on tablet based gaming.

It still baffles me that this Switch is a Wii U you can take on the go basically.
Do they really think the Wii U failed because of being tethered to a TV ? What is wrong with Nintendo's hardware team.
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I was talking to a friend today about the Switch and he mentioned to me that he hates the new direction for the Star Trek TV show. So much so that he told me he was shitting all over it on a forum someplace to people who were excited about the show. I said, "If you don't want to watch the show and you've told me you will never watch it, then why shit on everyone else who will like it? Why waste your time?" Don't be like my friend. If you have no intention of buying Nintendo hardware and just want Nintendo to fail so you can buy Nintendo games on non-Nintendo hardware. Take that agenda someplace else.
 
TrueBlue said:
Along with the whole Nintendo is doomed thing, that's like two memes you've expressed in the space of two pages. :P

Real talk though: the sentiment of wanting Nintendo to do badly - or hell, any of the Big 3 - because they're not giving you what you want is something that has always amazed me. Surely it benefits the industry if all three are healthy and making consoles?

Without sounding too combative, maybe they're just not for you anymore.
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You're right, I'm just expressing frustration at this point and I'm honest about it.

I miss Nintendo's roots, from the NES to the Gamecube, this Nintendo.

The Wii showed them that they could make bank by targeting other markets, less interested in gaming, and they seem stuck now in the desire to recreate that perfect spark that happened with the Wii for it to be so successful in terms of sells.

You're right, current Nintendo isn't for me anymore, they changed so much if you look into it with an objective eye.
 
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