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[Graphics Horse]

What kind of storage is this thing using? SD Cards? How are they going to support 3rd Party games if the games won't fit on the cards?

Rumour was it supported at least 32GB game cards.
As for expandable storage I dunno, the Wii U didn't allow SD cards for games, I assumed because they wanted a certain transfer speed that slower cards can't guarantee, but idk.

 

[Omnistalgic]

Looks goid to me... how is a roast beef sandwhich supposed to look?

Anyway this does not excite me... looks like the Wii U all over again. It might succeed it they market it primarily as a mobile device fir the right price. The dock should be sold as an add in device.

ive been watching documentaries like Food Inc. etc...think I'm in a vegan phase

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

While I like the design of the hardware that's not enough. Zelda is long in the tooth and it just looks bad compared to even Scalebound...which looks like a turd next to Horizon Zero Dawn. I'm curious how many people will cry fowl when Horizon Zero Dawn is up for game of the year and Zelda doesn't get an honorable mention?

I understand the nostalgia factor to an extent and respect that some people just really love Nintendo's first party games, but Nintendo marches out this same concept generation after generation of trying to market mainly niche games to the mainstream audience without the kind of success that's necessary to maintain a hardware game business indefinitely. Had it not been for the freak accident of the success of the Wii, when consoles nearing the end of their life and smartphones weren't ubiquitous Nintendo would be out of business right now...that set of environmental circumstances will never be duplicated again. I really get the sense Switch is going to sell marginally better than Wii U but that's it. Skyrim is 5 years old, it looks kinda bad on Switch so far and they're including it in the marketing like it's new this year.

Sure buddy. And you wonder why your still a Junior.

 

[brandonh83]

That's not the cost of either of those anymore, especially used.

Okay, the cheapest PS4 is $300, Vita is what, $160 or something bare-bones? I dunno. It's still going to be cheaper than those combined.

I think the concept is pretty innovative, especially if they make it work as intended. It's the finesse of how it works, really, not so much just the general concept. If it all goes smoothly and effectively, that's something that hasn't been done by home console makers.

You could argue that the idea is a gimmick, but what I'm saying is that games won't be designed around the gimmick. Sure, it's possible for devs to get ideas based on the fact you can have it on TV and then portable immediately, but they're not having to design games around the Wii remote, touch controls, looking back and forth between gamepad and TV, etc.

This is a sort of happy medium where there's a neat concept, but isn't really trying to change the way we play games and I think many people are fine with that.

Finally, the leaks aren't Nintendo's fault so if you're underwhelmed by that, it's just part of the territory.

 

[Graphics Horse]

It's more based on this... though I might just make another based on that N64 now lol

Hah I was wondering why you made the dpad blue, don't remember that detail.

 

[Deleted member 752119]

Did the Vita come with the PS4? Could you instantaneously switch any game from TV to portable? Not quite the same thing in several ways.

Yeah, Vita remote play sucked for the most part. Needing wifi and lacking buttons made it useless for me most of the time/with most games.

 

[Theosmeo]

Rumour was it supported at least 32GB game cards.
As for expandable storage I dunno, the Wii U didn't allow SD cards for games, I assumed because they wanted a certain transfer speed that slower cards can't guarantee, but idk.

Hmmm 32 GBs is a little small for most 3rd party games, I suspect downloading textures and stuff online like XB X will be necessary...

 

[brandonh83]

http://imgur.com/a/FSHaK

Check out my other designs

I saw most of those (awesome) but I actually didn't see the white one.

Looks good. The NES one is fantastic.

 

[Two Pikachus]

What kind of storage is this thing using? SD Cards? How are they going to support 3rd Party games if the games won't fit on the cards?

Maybe in 2006 they wouldn't have.

 

[Sleeping Lesson]

I like those color mockups, but more than anything I hope there's a nice looking Zelda version at launch.

 

[Inferno313]

Could be a joke (likely), but could it also be a partnership with Arby's?

It's a joke, I think. Arby's has a great social media team, they do stuff like this all the time for the latest current events and memes.

 

[m00h]

I like this device, but do also feel you on this. 7 inches is a bit small for local multiplayer. Luckily, they showed that multiple people can have their own Switch consoles as well and play multiplayer 3ds-style.

I don't get the argument with 7 inces being too small for s quick local multiplayer session. I have a 6.9" smartphone (P8max) and me and my coworker use two 8bitdo Zero controllers to play some retro Sega and Nintendo games on the phone. The 8bitdo Zero controller may look small and uncomfortable, but it honestly isn't. and 6.9" are more than enough to for a quick session. Last week we played through Streets of Rage on that combo, and we were fine. Even tough I have really large hands.

 

[The Hamburglar]

I just think the whole concept is terrible. They doubled down on the gamepad with the wii U because of smartphones which didn't pay off. Now it's trying to make a console experience mobile, but who the fuck is going to carry that around in public and play it? Maybe if your the passenger in a car or something but it's just so inconvenient.

And the battery life come on. Why didn't they just drop the bullshit gimmicks and go with an alternative console that doesn't have loads of power because we all know they can't compete with Sony and ms in that department.

 

[krizzx]

So, does the dock increase the power of the system like the original patents suggested or is it just a handheld with HDMI output?

 

[Skittzo0413]

Has anyone discussed how fricken awesome it is to finally get a split control scheme that is also a dual analog control scheme? Screw the joycon grip, I want one in each hand for TV gaming. Assuming they do have motion controls and this advanced haptics it could be the best control scheme ever.

Hopefully they're fairly comfortable to hold in that configuration.

 

[I Stalk Alone]

those controllers look horrific for fighting games to be honest, just saying as a fighting game enthusiast. That small screen also isn't doing it much favors.

someone should make dock that has two fight sticks to make it look like a mini arcade.

Has anyone discussed how fricken awesome it is to finally get a split control scheme that is also a dual analog control scheme? Screw the joycon grip, I want one in each hand for TV gaming. Assuming they do have motion controls and this advanced haptics it could be the best control scheme ever.

Hopefully they're fairly comfortable to hold in that configuration.

Yeah I always wanted to play with two nunchucku controllers wirelessly

 

[OCD Guy]

I posted asking similar elsewhere but have we had any confirmation on fans?

What I mean is by all accounts the Switch uses active cooling, which is fine, but have we established whether the fan is on the device itself or on the dock?

What I'm hoping is to have the active cooling on the dock that pushes air through the vents of the handheld, and passive cooling on the handheld as a fan isn't needed due to the Nvidia SOC running at lower clock speeds.

I really don't want a small ass fan blowing at full pelt while I'm gaming on the go in bed lol.

 

[brandonh83]

So, does the dock increase the power of the system like the original patents suggested or is it just a handheld with HDMI output?

I think one of the folks leaking info tweeted that this was the case? Not sure.

 

[Kamaji]

Now i'm totally out of the loop since there are so many threads and pages. But is the casual hype bigger for this than what it was for Wii U when the Wii U was announced?

I wasn't that active on social media in 2011-2012 so it's hard for me to gauge if this is just the usual Neogaf new console hype or something more.

 

[LordKano]

Since Square Enix is on the partner list, I hope we will have a Quantum Conundrum port, just because of this beauty.

 

[brandonh83]

Now i'm totally out of the loop since there are so many threads and pages. But is the casual hype bigger for this than what it was for Wii U when the Wii U was announced?

God yes. I remember a lot of "what the fuck" during the announcement. Same happened with the Wii, though that turned out to be a hit.

 

[ASIS]

Has anyone discussed how fricken awesome it is to finally get a split control scheme that is also a dual analog control scheme? Screw the joycon grip, I want one in each hand for TV gaming. Assuming they do have motion controls and this advanced haptics it could be the best control scheme ever.

Hopefully they're fairly comfortable to hold in that configuration.

No but im willing to discuss it cause it's amazing. It doesn't look too uncomfortable but I was hoping it was more ergonomic than the Wiimote, not less.

Either way I'm gonna play BOTW using the split control scheme and use whatever motion controlled aiming out there. I can't wait!

 

[OCD Guy]

Now i'm totally out of the loop since there are so many threads and pages. But is the casual hype bigger for this than what it was for Wii U when the Wii U was announced?

I wasn't that active on social media in 2011-2012 so it's hard for me to gauge if this is just the usual Neogaf new console hype or something more.

I can't remember either as like you I wasn't really into it.

But a quick look at the Wii U reveal trailer as some sort of benchmark was eye opening, the amount of views it has had today is less than a single day of the Switch reveal.

Although that could (and likely) means nothing as some could argue YouTube wasn't as big at the time etc.

But general opinions seem more positive, no real backlash.

I'm not saying YouTube views correlate with success, but at the very least it shows curiosity is very high. The last thing any manufacturer wants is no one to even care that their product exists.

 

[Ryoku]

People need to realize this trailer was for branding purposes. The specifics aren't meant to be part of this "first-stage strategy". That's how I see it, anyways.

 

[CorporateClown]

After a couple of conversations with my brother and gf, I have a few questions on the potential for this system.

I see a lot of people excited over the prospect of online multiplayer on the go. How is the Switch offering something new over the 3DS/Vita in this regard? I'm not seeing why this is a difference maker.

I feel like there are too many controller options with some games working with some schemes and not others. Do you think this will hinder 3rd parties in implementing certain features like in the basketball segment? It would be cool to just bring over the tablet and play a game, but if I end up having to bring some extra controllers just to do that then the benefit seems lost to me.

I already have a ps4, wii u, 3ds, and vita. In your opinion, what's the main incentive of the switch over my current systems?

 

[bomblord1]

Found this lmao

 

[Skittzo0413]

No but im willing to discuss it cause it's amazing. It doesn't look too uncomfortable but I was hoping it was more ergonomic than the Wiimote, not less.

Either way I'm gonna play BOTW using the split control scheme and use whatever motion controlled aiming out there. I can't wait!

That's the spirit!

It honestly might end up being more comfortable than a Wiimote, due to the curved edge. When you hold a Wiimote you can see that it's a fair bit longer but that extra length isn't absolutely necessary for a comfortable grip.

I guess it'll be down to final execution more than anything else. Nintendo's console controllers rarely disappoint (me anyway) in the ergonomics department, so I'm excited.

After a couple of conversations with my brother and gf, I have a few questions on the potential for this system.

I see a lot of people excited over the prospect of online multiplayer on the go. How is the Switch offering something new over the 3DS/Vita in this regard? I'm not seeing why this is a difference maker.

I feel like there are too many controller options with some games working with some schemes and not others. Do you think this will hinder 3rd parties in implementing certain features like in the basketball segment? It would be cool to just bring over the tablet and play a game, but if I end up having to bring some extra controllers just to do that then the benefit seems lost to me.

I already have a ps4, wii u, 3ds, and vita. In your opinion, what's the main incentive of the switch over my current systems?

The way I see it, the main incentive is that you can now seamlessly take your full console games on the go, without switching anything. Whether that resonates with you depends on your personal tastes and gaming habits, but it seems to be a fairly clear selling point.

As for the abundance of control options, I don't really see that. I see only one control scheme for single player, although the ergonomics of that scheme can change depending on how you want to play (split scheme, joycon grip, pro controller). The local multiplayer control scheme is the only other setup shown. That's even less control schemes than you had with the Wii.

 

[mrklaw]

What I love is that the 'gimmick' is a business gimmick not a functional one. It's the ultimate cross-buy/cross-play/cross-save machine because your portable and home machines are literally the same.

The actual console is pretty ordinary if you put aside the optional removable controllers etc - it's a big vita or a wiiU game pad - twin analogs, buttons, triggers, likely touch screen, motion.

 

[Orbis]

Now i'm totally out of the loop since there are so many threads and pages. But is the casual hype bigger for this than what it was for Wii U when the Wii U was announced?

I wasn't that active on social media in 2011-2012 so it's hard for me to gauge if this is just the usual Neogaf new console hype or something more.

Wii U was a very confusing unveil, outside of gaming forums a lot of people were confused that it was a Wii add-on. Total fuck up of communication from Nintendo. Which meant not much buzz from casuals as the Wii brand was already basically dead.

 

[Kwixotik]

What are the chances this thing has more than 1.5 hours of battery life?

 

[Jetman]

I think it is a pretty different concept; while what you're saying is true, it's only true to an extent. You'd have to spend $400 on a PS4, $200 on a Vita, Vita memory card prices... it absolutely works, but with the Switch there's far less baggage and it's gonna be a hell of a lot cheaper.

Other than that you have the detachable controller scheme, the Nintendo IP's, etc. It's similar in concept but not really in execution. I don't think it's really going to feel anything like the PS4/Vita combo, especially when it comes to games.

Hope so! But, I guess we'll all see in a few months.

Other thing I'm worried about (and I see I echoed the thoughts of a poster above me) is battery life and availability of the portable. If this thing is as hard to come by as I hear the Wii U pad was then no fucking way am I walking around in public with it. Honestly, I don't think I would have anyways. If they weren't going to do anything " Extremely1!" innovative then I probably would have preferred a Wii 2 with current/next gen console tech.

 

[Sesuadra]

What are the chances this thing has more than 1.5 hours of battery life?

devkits seem to have around 3 hours. no informations yet about the final product with the "final" os in march 2017.

 

[mrklaw]

After a couple of conversations with my brother and gf, I have a few questions on the potential for this system.

I see a lot of people excited over the prospect of online multiplayer on the go. How is the Switch offering something new over the 3DS/Vita in this regard? I'm not seeing why this is a difference maker.

I feel like there are too many controller options with some games working with some schemes and not others. Do you think this will hinder 3rd parties in implementing certain features like in the basketball segment? It would be cool to just bring over the tablet and play a game, but if I end up having to bring some extra controllers just to do that then the benefit seems lost to me.

I already have a ps4, wii u, 3ds, and vita. In your opinion, what's the main incentive of the switch over my current systems?

I think the 'share controllers with other players' is likely to be the thing that gets ignored the quickest. It'll start off with limit d shoe-horned support by Nintendo - maybe a multiplayer Nintendo land kind of thing, and then slowly be forgotten

Ultimately if you want to play multiplayer just bring your own switch, or your own controller. I'd rather do that than have the game mechanics limited to half the number of buttons

 

[bobbychalkers]

Now i'm totally out of the loop since there are so many threads and pages. But is the casual hype bigger for this than what it was for Wii U when the Wii U was announced?

I wasn't that active on social media in 2011-2012 so it's hard for me to gauge if this is just the usual Neogaf new console hype or something more.

It was top trending on a couple major social media sites so it got a lot of eyes (mainly youtube and twitter). Their messaging on this was a lot more clearer than the Wii U reveal trailer. A lot of people including gaming press thought it was just a controller for the Wii.

 

[Humdinger]

I'm considering a buy, but I need to know about specs, price, and games. Guess I'll have to wait until next year before making a decision.

 

[Etzer]

This is looking to be all I wanted in a 3DS successor (that's what it is for me), but it looks so ugly to me. Reminds me of old Android tablets.

 

[Halfrican2K]

I am okay with no Wii U backwards compatibility, but i want my Virtual Console purchases from my 3DS and Wii U to be playable on my Switch.

 

[Flo_Evans]

I am okay with no Wii U backwards compatibility, but i want my Virtual Console purchases from my 3DS and Wii U to be playable on my Switch.

good luck.

 

[Simbabbad]

Why didn't they just drop the bullshit gimmicks and go with an alternative console that doesn't have loads of power because we all know they can't compete with Sony and ms in that department.

So, in other words, exactly what the Switch is? The portable element is just there so they can fuse together their home and portable markets so they can stays viable.

 

[Miracle]

Based on the trailer, I don't think I have ever been more excited about a Nintendo console since the 64. I'll be honest, I never liked the Wii U besides a couple of games that were on it, disliked the Wii a lot both for the lack of games that interested me and concept, and GameCube while having good games, didn't hold me as much as PS2 and Xbox did. Never been much of a Nintendo fan either.

This however? This is probably the best concept for a console I have ever seen. I love the way it looks, love the flexibility, the cartridge idea, the controller even looks awesome that is also very flexible. There is so much to love with this, especially seeing being able to play Skyrim on the go. 0_0 I hope Fallout 4 and later Bethesda games will be apart of this too. Witcher 3?

Now what I really hope now is that they don't screw up on the specs (low storage I can handle if I can buy cheep SD cards), make online account functionality both user friendly and interactive, and get good support from third parties this time (and get good, new third party games around the same time they also come out for Xbox One, PS4, etc).

Also question (I hope not a stupid one): Can this play 3DS games? Because it used cartridges now (which look similar to the 3DS ones), does that mean it can play 3DS games too or is that just a pipe dream? Because that would be amazing if it could.

Either way, I'm very happy Nintendo seemed to have finally made a console for the first long time in a long while that I will actually be eager enough to pre order. Good shit.

 

[m00h]

Also question (I hope not a stupid one): Can this play 3DS games? Because it used cartridges now (which look similar to the 3DS ones), does that mean it can play 3DS games too or is that just a pipe dream? Because that would be amazing if it could.

Nope, it can't. No BC.

 

[Shahadan]

I don't even take my Vita anywhere outside because I'd be too afraid to break or lose it.
So this thing is basically a Wii U without dual screen for me :lol:

If your shit is expensive and fragile on top of being too big and unprotected to be in my pocket, it's staying at home.
I find really weird that since the 3DS the whole concept of their consoles is defeated by existing in the first place

 

[ASIS]

That's the spirit!

It honestly might end up being more comfortable than a Wiimote, due to the curved edge. When you hold a Wiimote you can see that it's a fair bit longer but that extra length isn't absolutely necessary for a comfortable grip.

I guess it'll be down to final execution more than anything else. Nintendo's console controllers rarely disappoint (me anyway) in the ergonomics department, so I'm excited.

And this is why you hold press events at reveals. we need impressions on the controller, otherwise we just don't know. My problem with the controller is the size more than the form. I'm excited to see the motion technology as well as the advanced rumble thing. Easily the most exciting part of the Switch for me.

 

[Skittzo0413]

And this is why you hold press events at reveals. we need impressions on the controller, otherwise we just don't know. My problem with the controller is the size more than the form. I'm excited to see the motion technology as well as the advanced rumble thing. Easily the most exciting part of the Switch for me.

Agreed. This was sorta presented as a "preview" and not a reveal, so I hope they do plan to hold a press hands-on at the actual reveal.

I can't wait to see the motion functions and haptics either. I really wish they gave us a reveal date in that video...

 

[andythinkpad]

Made a Pokemon themed design. Look familiar?

They should have called it "Nintendo Ladybug". It's still better than Switch.

 

[Malus]

I don't even take my Vita anywhere outside because I'd be too afraid to break or lose it.
So this thing is basically a Wii U without dual screen for me :lol:

Yeah I'm sad that we've actually lost some functionality going from Wii U to Switch as far as home console gaming is concerned. It was small stuff, but I enjoyed having a touchscreen available at any time while playing on the TV.

The only saving grace of this thing for me is the games. If only they'd show some more.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

In conclusion think that touch screen is almost guaranteed and giving the nature and purpose of the trailer that motion gaming has a very good chance of happening in the end.

Yeah. If we assumed everything we didn't see in the intro video was really missing, we'd also have a system with no OS or home menu.

I wouldn't expect touch control to be a large thing on this. Games should work in all modes, so touch controls can only be optional (for inventories and such?). But concepts like elite beat agents is not something for this machine.

I wonder if Nintendo's supposed insistence that everything work well when docked will fade away as does their facade about this being primarily a home machine. If in a year or two they start to phase the 3DS out, they'll have to choose between letting touch-dependent games exist, telling them to get bent, or forcing devs to implement awful alternate control methods.

The local co-op scenes don't seem realistic; the screen is just too small for comfort. Could this be Nintendo's reason for the holographic projection R&D/patents they've been doing.

Let's wait to see what the orange port does.

The only possible complaint is that "Switch" sounds a bit mundane, but compared to what. The dynamic and powerful names of the "4" or the "1"?

I think if there were some other word paired with Switch it would sound more like a game console we're familiar with. Stealing from real examples: PlaySwith, XSwitch, DreamSwitch, GameSwitch. Personally I vote for DipSwitch, which we control with Dip-Cons and analog Dip-Sticks.

does this thing have a camera on the back???

Doesn't seem so.

You have to wonder though. Doesn't Nintendo realize there are gamers who want a console with power?

Sure. But they might also realize what they'd have to do to woo them from PS4 and/or Xbone and/or PC is more trouble than it's worth.

So now I'm wondering was resolution this thing will render games at when plugged into the dock. Surely 1080p. Surely?

It should vary by game as with most systems. But it should be better able to do 1080p than Wii U was.

Thoughts on backwards compatibility with DS/3DS since there are carts?

Still incompatible hardware. I'd expect to see some of them show up on Virtual Console, though, especially where vertical orientation of the screens isn't important.

What kind of storage is this thing using? SD Cards? How are they going to support 3rd Party games if the games won't fit on the cards?

You can get a 64 GB SD card for about $20 today, probably less 5 months from now.

Hmmm 32 GBs is a little small for most 3rd party games, I suspect downloading textures and stuff online like XB X will be necessary...

Xenoblade X didn't let you download new things that weren't already on the disc--it just let duplicates of them be put where they could load quicker. If a game really can't fit in 32 GB, there's no reason to believe larger won't be possible.

 

[Okami Haundo]

Has anyone discussed how fricken awesome it is to finally get a split control scheme that is also a dual analog control scheme? Screw the joycon grip, I want one in each hand for TV gaming. Assuming they do have motion controls and this advanced haptics it could be the best control scheme ever.

Hopefully they're fairly comfortable to hold in that configuration.

I can't wait to sit on my couch, arms at my sides, using separated joycon L + R controllers like the lazy piece of shit that I am.

 

[Dead_Pixel]

No but im willing to discuss it cause it's amazing. It doesn't look too uncomfortable but I was hoping it was more ergonomic than the Wiimote, not less.

Either way I'm gonna play BOTW using the split control scheme and use whatever motion controlled aiming out there. I can't wait!

With Link being right-handed again, there might be more to the motion control features than just aiming...

 

[VendettaRed07]

Going to make a crazy prediction and say that Mario Kart 8.8 will be the pack in game. It has multiplayer that you can use on one system with both joycons so it uses the unique function of it pretty well.. And I don't think there will be a "Wii Sports" or "Nintendo Land" game with it this time around.