Rise of the Tomb Raider, also big difference if you only own 1080p display. Hopefully others will follow with excellent options for Pro like ROTTR does.
PlayStation 4 Pro Reviews
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get2sammyb
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Correct.
The majority of people have a 1080p display and are quite content. I feel this 4K push is just unnecessary.
I for one would rather see the capabilities of the console to be spent on density and so forth, rather than resolution.
Still don't know whether to buy one over my current PS4. YouTube comparisons will come extremely handy here.
I for one would rather see the capabilities of the console to be spent on density and so forth, rather than resolution.
Still don't know whether to buy one over my current PS4. YouTube comparisons will come extremely handy here.
Parmadillo Marshmallow
Member
Asked in the transfer thread but no comments, so trying here.
I deactivated my main PS4 less than 6 months ago so that I could activate on my kid's PS4 to use the Game Share feature.
Now I want to use the ethernet transfer from my main (deactivated) PS4 to my new PS4 Pro. Is this going to be a problem? Does the transfer force you to have all of your PS4's deactivated, and then force you to activate the new Pro?
I deactivated my main PS4 less than 6 months ago so that I could activate on my kid's PS4 to use the Game Share feature.
Now I want to use the ethernet transfer from my main (deactivated) PS4 to my new PS4 Pro. Is this going to be a problem? Does the transfer force you to have all of your PS4's deactivated, and then force you to activate the new Pro?
That's what I thought too, but explain the differences. Pro looked sharper to me, and several people I showed the footage to.
Hahaha!
All captured at 1080p at the same settings on the Elgato hardware/software
Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
It does improve things for those with a 1080p display as well.
Jacksinthe
Banned
kriskrosbbk
Member
Framerate?Especially CQ. Can you try and give feedback please.
If you play on an obnoxiously large 1080p display you're the first person who should be getting one.
Insane Metal
Member
from Eurogamer article
also this
The remaster doesn't run at a stable framerate? What the fuck is this?
longdi
Banned
It is not all for 4K.
1080p users will greatly benefit from supersampling and better framerates.
When you see a stable picture with cleaned up pixels shimmering, you will never go back and will appreciate the Pro! The image quality step up is like moving from VHS to 480p DVD, everything is just so much cleaner and stable!
professor denim
Member
Get use to it. They need to sell that console.
CPU limited most likely.
Collateral22
Member
Theres like 2 parts of the game that doesnt
If I was looking to buy a PS4 I would buy the pro to "future proof" myself. 100 bucks difference is worth it.
If you have a PS4, to upgrade you wouldn't keep the old one which makes this more of a 200-250 upgrade not 400.
visiblemode
Member
Was gonna say this. 6DB is an enormous difference.
Not sure what the argument is here. The C chassis is a big improvement over launch, many sites are even claiming less noise than Slim. To me that means variance. We've seen this with every system. Still, if C Chassis is worst case, we're in good shape.
God yes. At that scale a reduction in shimmer would be very useful.
But are they noticable? I really think Sony got the console name wrong here really. This, to me, seems largely intended for 4K displays.
Should really have been called PlayStation 4K.
Having said that let's see some game comparisons at 1080p. FFXV is the ideal candidate for this!
I don't get it,
Infinite Ward lowered frame rates on orig ps4 to help Sony sell more Pro's ?
ValeYard
Member
As expected.
This is still essentially a PS4 in the inside throughout the multiple revisions of PS4 over the past 3 years and the Slim etc Sony learnt the best way to make PS4 Pro efficient in the best design possible so no surprise.
As I posted just before, the noise level of the Pro maybe isn't that quiet. Digital Foundry said in their review that it's more like the C-chassis ps4 than the slim. I was hoping for slim quiet. Anyone else picked up on this? It seems to have been missed, so I'll post the quote again.
There are noticeable increases at 1080p yes.
Bitch Pudding
Member
German tabloid bild.de also published their review.
http://www.bild.de/spiele/spiele-news/playstation-4/playstation-4-pro-48635666.bild.html
So, first of all, they are obviously no Tech-freaks:
=> Besides XBOX One S, PS4 Pro is the first gaming console which delivers games in UHD resolution (3840 x 2160)."
Nevertheless, this part of the review was interesting:
They say that PS4 Pro doesn't deliver native 4K in most games, but uses "a graphic trick" (checkerboard rendering) to get there. Interestingly they say that gaming journalists performing a blank test were not able to tell if a game was native 4K or checkerboard rendered before they were a couple of centimeters (!) away from the screen. They say basically no one will able to see any difference if you're 2-3 meters away from it.
As I said, BILD is a tabloid and literally everything they say should be taken with a grain of salt. Yet it's the first time I read something about a blank test. Has anyone here ever heard of something like that? As in, you know, from a reliable source?
http://www.bild.de/spiele/spiele-news/playstation-4/playstation-4-pro-48635666.bild.html
So, first of all, they are obviously no Tech-freaks:
=> Besides XBOX One S, PS4 Pro is the first gaming console which delivers games in UHD resolution (3840 x 2160)."
Nevertheless, this part of the review was interesting:
They say that PS4 Pro doesn't deliver native 4K in most games, but uses "a graphic trick" (checkerboard rendering) to get there. Interestingly they say that gaming journalists performing a blank test were not able to tell if a game was native 4K or checkerboard rendered before they were a couple of centimeters (!) away from the screen. They say basically no one will able to see any difference if you're 2-3 meters away from it.
As I said, BILD is a tabloid and literally everything they say should be taken with a grain of salt. Yet it's the first time I read something about a blank test. Has anyone here ever heard of something like that? As in, you know, from a reliable source?
Frame rate in the standard wavers a little bit but it was (what appeared to be) a solid 60 on the Pro. Also, when the soldiers in front of you run off into the distance, they stay sharp in the Pro version. It's so weird, I know there shouldn't be differences but there definitely are. It's not as night and day as Titanfall is, but it's there.
Unknown?
Member
Yes it is noticeable!
Parmadillo Marshmallow
Member
Right. The question is, do I HAVE to activate the new PS4 Pro, or can I just leave it deactivated like my current one and leave my son's PS4 as the activated one?
Not a blank test. Though the DF guys have basically said the same thing about Checkerboard.
Putenrupfer
Neo Member
Could you upload your recoded footage? Wanna see it with my own eyes. I am really looking forward to playing bf1 on the pro.
Backfoggen
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I should have been clearer. I meant the PS4s own recording function. According to the FAQ only some games support 1080p video recording. As far as I know no one has tested if that means that games that aren't Pro patched only record 720p still.That's what I thought too, but explain the differences. Pro looked sharper to me, and several people I showed the footage to.
Hahaha!
https://youtu.be/l0zHHXu_nOY?t=640 That's where the Standard PS4 footage starts - The Pro is a couple of minutes later. (YouTube compression is a bit of a twat though)
Ohhh, sorry! I wasn't aware that only some games supported the 1080p resolution. I'll have a look a bit later
I did want to do some comparison videos a bit later this week between different capture methods anyway I play on a 1080p 110" projector as well. Do any reviews talk about big projector screens and how much it improves things?
Liabe Brave
Member
Call of Duty has never run at a locked 60fps on consoles. That is not caused by the hardware.
BigEmil
Junior Member
Only in campaign. Multiplayer is stable.
Pretty much for all fps games in Campaign they don't care for stable fps just up the graphics and destruction and things going on at once but nothing too fancy for multiplayer
Same here.
Eagerly awaiting comparison videos of XCOM2, Skyrim, Mafia 3, Hitman and Uncharted 4.
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
How could they capture PS VR gameplay?
Backfoggen
Banned
https://youtu.be/l0zHHXu_nOY?t=640 That's where the Standard PS4 footage starts - The Pro is a couple of minutes later. (YouTube compression is a bit of a twat though)
Ohhh, sorry! I wasn't aware that only some games supported the 1080p resolution. I'll have a look a bit later
Thanks man!
I really want to see XCOM. I somehow don't expect the Pro to unfuck it.
Always-honest
Banned
You'll notice it the most. It's why i'm buying the Pro. Because things like jaggies are more visible on the screensize we play on with the projector. Some games are already pretty clean and this gen doesn't really have games anymore where the jaggies are as big as the characters, but any help to clean up the image is welcome. Downsampling is ideal for this.
If the game has a pro patch enabling 4k
Is super sampling as simple as plugging pro in a 1080p but picking to do 4k anyway effectively super sampling it?
Or does it have to be a separate patch and option?
So I ask this because FFXV is confirmed to have a pro patch with 4k, and I want to know of that means it's super sampled for my 1080p tv?
This will determine if I buy it day one or not.
Is super sampling as simple as plugging pro in a 1080p but picking to do 4k anyway effectively super sampling it?
Or does it have to be a separate patch and option?
So I ask this because FFXV is confirmed to have a pro patch with 4k, and I want to know of that means it's super sampled for my 1080p tv?
This will determine if I buy it day one or not.
PodcastFips
Member
That looks stunning. This is why I get the Pro.
BigEmil
Junior Member
Slim quiet level come on now your being too unrealistic consider the power and hardware inside this, its an impressive feat they achieved. I'm surprised its not much higher as I was expecting tbh
nah buddy.....that TF2 screenshot told me that owning one for a 1080p display was enough....and that was with no real enhancements like RotTR
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Looks very crisp indeed. Almost like an interactive CGI movie.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Watching some tests it seems Infinite does pretty well, at least on ps4.