Pokémon Sun & Moon |OT| Ultra Beasts and where to find them

The average speed of fully-evolved, breed-able Pokemon in Gen 7 is 63.3. Last gen it was 77.6, and in Gen 1 it was 80.6 (though it should be noted that many Pokemon got retroactive stat boosts).

Attacking stats are slightly up though.

(I don't know why I decided to do that).
 
First female Salandit I found had decreased Sp. Atk and Increased Spd. Decided to try again and get one that doesn't gimp it's Sp. Atk.

...an hour and a half later I got it. Decreased Sp. Def, Increased Spd. Not the best but I'll take it!

Also screw this female only shit, so stupid. On top of that I had to pray it stayed in the Great Ball at 60% health because it kept calling for help and getting more Salandits and they kept spamming Dragon Rage. Most horrifying encounter in the game for me.
 
KZXcellent said:
First female Salandit I found had decreased Sp. Atk and Increased Spd. Decided to try again and get one that doesn't gimp it's Sp. Atk.

...an hour and a half later I got it. Decreased Sp. Def, Increased Spd. Not the best but I'll take it!

Also screw this female only shit, so stupid. On top of that I had to pray it stayed in the Great Ball at 60% health because it kept calling for help and getting more Salandits and they kept spamming Dragon Rage. Most horrifying encounter in the game for me.
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A male Pokemon with Cute Charm (like Sylveon) has a 66.7% chance of encountering a female Salandit. Paralysis prevents her from calling for help.
 
Wonder Trade has not been kind to me. It's just all first island pokemon. Was hoping people would be mass trading starters by now lol
 
Toki767 said:
Wonder Trade has not been kind to me. It's just all first island pokemon. Was hoping people would be mass trading starters by now lol
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I think starters are a hot commodity at the moment. Odds are people would rather try to get nice stuff for them on the GTS lol.
 
I love almost everything about this game. It would of been my favorite Pokemon game of all time... but the holy crap the hand holding.

Finished 2 Islands so far and I am so tired of being told where to go, what to do, when to breathe. I was hoping the first island would be a tutorial piece and it would stop being so suffocating but it just keeps on going. It could of been really cool if they let you just pick what order you wanted to do the trials. Especially because the island easily circles around itself.

Also, what is up with all the Pokemon Centers? They are more frequent than Starbucks! On top of that, every time you do anything significant, someone just heals all your Pokemon, all the time. It makes the "conveniently" placed potions laying around completely useless.

After getting that off my chest, I love all the new Pokemon. Every time I run into a new Gen 7 mon, I am having a terrible time deciding who to keep on my team. I have only caught like three Gen 7 Pokemon who I instaboxed. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! They are all so GOOD!

Also, Team Skull are the greatest evil group of all time, yo!
Especially with all their sick rhymes, yo!

Edit: The trials are decently challenging. I actually struggled in one due to bad party typing.
 
Toki767 said:
Wonder Trade has not been kind to me. It's just all first island pokemon. Was hoping people would be mass trading starters by now lol
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That's what im doing. Found a Ditto and a Fletchinder with Flame body early. Been churning out eggs before i move on with the story.

Also when Seil said hatching is fast now he ment it. Lord ive never had eggs hatch so quickly.
 
Wonder Trade got me a Litten, which was my starter, so I managed to get a Poplio from GTS.

This was probably my first time ever using GTS successfully since everyone constantly asks for legendaries in the previous games.
 
Toki767 said:
Wonder Trade got me a Litten, which was my starter, so I managed to get a Poplio from GTS.

This was probably my first time ever using GTS successfully since everyone constantly asks for legendaries in the previous games.
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Early days tend to be solid for GTS. Friend Safari made things interesting in XY lol. Stuff like Togepi seemed to do really well.
 
So twitch plays Pokemon are up to the Trial (second island)
in the jungle...you can imagine how well moving to precise spots to find items is going (it took them about 30 minutes to smash rocks with Tauros not sure if that needed intervention though as right+B by default didn't last long enough for Tauros to charge)
.

Which of course means they beat the first totem Pokemon on the second Island.
 
Toki767 said:
Wonder Trade has not been kind to me. It's just all first island pokemon. Was hoping people would be mass trading starters by now lol
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Have you seen any Chinese language Pokemon? I'm curious as to how common foreign languages Wonder Trades are this soon after release.
 
The game is obviously nicer, the story is welcomed (even with far too much hand holding), and it's nice to see some changes in structure, but...

After ~10h, I must say I enjoyed X/Y more. The rotom dex is incredibly annoying to me. Especially compared to the Dexnav. I've probably spent one hour looking for a Psyduck in the meadow, not even knowing if it's
in the hidden cave, or if you need fishing rod to find it

Also, new pokemons are nice, but the first island at least is filled with older mons, it's disappointing. I guess that's what you get with 80 new ones...

Kazooie said:
I hate living in the UK.
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Out of curiosity, they respect the release date everywhere in UK?

Because in France, everyone (but Amazon?) broke the street date by a whole week... I wondered if Nintendo was really strict on the release date, because usually it's not like that. I mean, even the shops that work with Nintendo for distribution of event pokemons were selling S&M a couple days ago (not surprisingly at an awful price, 49/55€ for normal/limited edition, which I got for 32/36€ in my supermarket).
 
Kinda wish I'd known it was never going to be daytime in my game before I bought Moon. For the first time my policy of buying whichever one was 2nd place on the bestseller list bit me in the ass.
 
LiQuid! said:
Kinda wish I'd known it was never going to be daytime in my game before I bought Moon. For the first time my policy of buying whichever one was 2nd place on the bestseller list bit me in the ass.
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Moon takes place in real time albeit shifted 12 hours, so that day=night and night=day.
 
Team update:
Socket/Magnezone-lvl 46
Sassy/Salazzle-lvl 42
Vice/Vikavolt-lvl 43
Zephyr/Decidueye-lvl 49
Horseshoe/Golisopod-lvl 48
Tooky Tooky/Toucannon-lvl 44

Levitate is kinda nice on vikavolt. Avoid all those pesky ground moves.
 
LiQuid! said:
Kinda wish I'd known it was never going to be daytime in my game before I bought Moon. For the first time my policy of buying whichever one was 2nd place on the bestseller list bit me in the ass.
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As above, it's not permanently night, it's just night during the day and vice versa. Also,
in the postgame: You can go through a portal to the opposite time anyway
 
When does the sun rise and set (exact times would be nice) in Pokemon Sun? I'll probably mostly gonna play after 6pm and would be prefer a few hours of daylight in the game. If the sun sets at like 10 pm, I'd probably go with Sun then
 
LiQuid! said:
Kinda wish I'd known it was never going to be daytime in my game before I bought Moon. For the first time my policy of buying whichever one was 2nd place on the bestseller list bit me in the ass.
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The opening sequence has a fixed time. It'll follow your clock (with a 12-hour difference in Moon) otherwise.

rdytoroll said:
When does the sun rise and set (exact times would be nice) in Pokemon Sun? I'll probably mostly gonna play after 6pm and would be prefer a few hours of daylight in the game. If the sun sets at like 10 pm, I'd probably go with Sun then
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6am to 6pm is day.
 
rdytoroll said:
When does the sun rise and set (exact times would be nice) in Pokemon Sun? I'll probably mostly gonna play after 6pm and would be prefer a few hours of daylight in the game. If the sun sets at like 10 pm, I'd probably go with Sun then
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Either buy Moon or
you can enable the 12 hour time-shift in Sun post-game
 
Seil said:
As above, it's not permanently night, it's just night during the day and vice versa. Also,
in the postgame: You can go through a portal to the opposite time anyway
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Yeah I know they're just reversed but I'm sleeping at night and it seems like it's already in-game night even when I wake up super early, so I haven't seen any daylight in the game yet.

Thanks for the info in the spoiler tho, that's encouraging.
 
Finally got out of the first island. I really didn't like the handholdy tutorial, but I lived through it. I like how this game feels so far. It feels like the right way to do a followup to XY.

But seriously, what's with the bed smelling?
 
The fourth totem Pokemons Sun Blade really hurt. Thank goodness Crabrawler held on with 5HP and the poison from Salandit took it out.

Mudbray evolved! Mudsdale looks fantasti and I can't wait to use it in a battle..
 
I've just discovered that Island Scan Pokémon come with egg moves! I've got a Cyndaquil w/ Double Kick, a Chikorita w/ Leech Seed, and a Litwick w/ Acid.

Has anyone else noticed this, and is the move randomized or preset?
 
Griss said:
I tried Nuzlocke and by god it was a struggle. The SOS system will take out your best pokemon from time to time, and if you show up to a totem fight underlevelled it's curtains. I made it to
Lurantis
before wiping. If you get past that you're doing well.
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That is also were I unfortunately wiped, that stupid freaking Solar Blade is OP as shit and to have a hold item to not allow it to have to wait to charge (only once but still) was just insane. I also thought it would be around 24ish but it was 26 and out leveled all of my Pokemon plus I didn't have any moves that were super effective on it since I accidentally killed a fire type on the volcano and I had caught a Zubat but it died to the Sylveon I mentioned in that previous post. Also the AI on that thing was crazy, it actually predicted when I would try and switch and instead of using solar blade it used Razor Leaf when I tried to bring in my Makuhita with fake out to interupt it (hoping he could use his Z move to kill it) was not expecting that, got completely played. Also didn't freaking help to have that stupid as Trumbeak summoned right at the start that just screwed with all of my Pokemon and if Solar Blade didn't kill something in one hit you'd better believe Trumbeak finished it off.

I'm impressed honestly, I was really upset last night when it happened since I had made so much progress but even though I failed I reset a few times and swapped a few Pokemon around just to see if I could actually kill the damn thing with the team I had and the only time I actually killed it was when my Brionne used its Zmove to kill it before it could heal (also WHY DOES IT HAVE A HEAL HOLY SHIT THAT IS BROKEN!) and even then the Trumbeak still killed Brionne because of confusion and its health already being in the yellow (and everyone else was dead FYI XD) so yeah impressive boss fight was not expecting that, I should have kept the exp share on as that is certain a fight where you absolutely need to either be out leveled or have a way to resist the shit out of both the Solar Blade and the freaking Trumbeak which is easier said then done.


I always like to put my team from a Nuzlocke onto the bank for these newer games so I'm going to restart with Sun and I think I'm still going to do a Nuzlocke since I understand how routes should work and what not now... although seriously the way routes are done in this game is confusion as all hell.

Route 1 for example is technically two areas even though one of the areas is literally called the 'Outskirts' it still counts as route one, same as the school which ISN'T called something different when you enter/exit it but is also still route one.

It's like the game has main routes, sub areas and sub sub areas, which is confusing as all hell and its not consistent. Some areas that are sub areas or sub sub areas count as a different area and others don't its just odd as hell.

So basically what I'm going to do is just count the labeled areas (things that mention a new name when you enter them) and the areas labeled under that area of the map, basically if its named in either way I'm counting it. Not sure how many Pokemon I'll have by then but thats mostly what I did in the first time through and it didn't seem like all that much considering where I was at was basically the 4th gym in most games?
 
Does anyone play using the stylus? I don't, but it's been frustrating trying to hit touch targets that are annoyingly small. Things like item categories in the battle menu. A minor frustration that keeps repeating.
 
I accidentally spent $59,000 on a designer shirt. I didn't look at the price because I had been playing for ten hours and thought it would be $4000 like everything else. That was all my money!
 
Finale Fireworker said:
I accidentally spent $59,000 on a designer shirt. I didn't look at the price because I had been playing for ten hours and thought it would be $4000 like everything else. That was all my money!
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But u flossin tho!

Of all the smart changes they made in this game I think one of my absolute favorites is that when you go to the PC you don't have to click thru a bunch of completely meaningless options to get to the only one anyone ever used "move pokemon" who ever used deposit/withdraw?! You can do both of those things from the move menu. Why did it take LITERALLY 20 years for them to make this change??? This is truly the Pokemon game I wanted a decade ago that would have prevented me from becoming jaded on the series in the first place.
 
Nuzlocking this game is probably a fucking nightmare with Totem Pokemon (especially Lurantis, who you could make a convincing case is the hardest in-game Pokemon boss), Z-Moves, and how nebulous areas are, and I'd probably think on some rule changes for it if I were to attempt it and want to keep my sanity.

Anyway: Just beat Moon. Team was:

Lv. 46 Golem - Had to pivot when I found out you couldn't evolve Charjabug until the end of the game. Rock type made it totally infuriating against water types, kinda wish I'd used Raichu instead.
Lv. 44 Mudsdale - Stamina was hilarious
Lv. 45 Marowak - Got one with a Thick Club so he basically OHKOed or 2HKOed everything
Lv. 47 Bewear - Fluffy was hilarious
Lv. 47 Muk - Didn't have a busted ability or anything, but Poison/Dark is a great typing and Muk has the stats and movepool to make it work really well in-game.
Lv. 50 Primarina - Kinda squishy but hits like a Mack truck. Also had the greatest Sing hax ever. I definitely hit closer to 80 percent than 55.

No Exp. Share, very little grinding.

I'm just going to toss my thoughts under a spoiler tag cause I figure most people didn't mainline a 20-30 hour game like I did.

I was pretty impressed with the difficulty - felt challenging, but fair. Some of the Totem fights (Lurantis, Mimikyu) actually wiped me on the first attempt and I had to formulate a game plan for the second, which made up for the human trainers not being particularly great until the Elite 4.

The decision to dump the constraints of the Gym/League system and go with trials was a good one. Made the world and story feel much more organic. Sadly, though, it definitely feels like a game where they ran out of time near the end - gets kinda sparse around the fourth island.

I liked the plot for Black/White with the qualifier "It's good for Pokemon", but I think a lot of the writing here is good games writing, full stop. Nellie/Gladion being centered around an abusive mother in Lusamine was an interesting angle and it did a good job of fleshing out what could have easily just been anime tropes. Also, the token "How the fuck are we going to top the weird bit from the last game" being "Lusamine becomes a tentacle monster" was pretty fucking great.

Also that ending was some straight Return of the King shit lmao
 
HawthorneKitty said:
#worthit
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Yeah I look cute. Sorry, not sorry. 😎

LiQuid! said:
But u flossin tho!

Of all the smart changes they made in this game I think one of my absolute favorites is that when you go to the PC you don't have to click thru a bunch of completely meaningless options to get to the only one anyone ever used "move pokemon" who ever used deposit/withdraw?! You can do both of those things from the move menu. Why did it take LITERALLY 20 years for them to make this change??? This is truly the Pokemon game I wanted a decade ago that would have prevented me from becoming jaded on the series in the first place.
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I love this too. There are so many quality of life improvements that I can't believe it took 20 years to gain.

One of my favorite touches otherwise is that registering a Pokémon in the Dex will also tell you which moves are effective when battling them.
 
Finale Fireworker said:
I accidentally spent $59,000 on a designer shirt. I didn't look at the price because I had been playing for ten hours and thought it would be $4000 like everything else. That was all my money!
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I'm like, Yo that's fifty nine thousand dollars for a T-shirt
Limited edition, let's do some simple addition
Fifty nine thousand dollars for a T-shirt, that's just some (...)
 
Finale Fireworker said:
I accidentally spent $59,000 on a designer shirt. I didn't look at the price because I had been playing for ten hours and thought it would be $4000 like everything else. That was all my money!
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You can get an easy $20k a day from doing the task for the man on Hano Beach. You'll also get tons of money later on in the game.
 
Benzychenz said:
Interesting that Tauros and Miltank are on the same Pokedex 'page'.

They should really just make a single pre-evolution for them already.
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It's super dumb that we still don't have a baby cow that evolves based on gender into either Tauros or Miltank. That would have been perfect for Gen 2 since it introduced gender and baby Pokemon.
 
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