I don't think they mean a supernatural ghost just that Ellie is possibly hallucinating.
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I don't think they mean a supernatural ghost just that Ellie is possibly hallucinating.
Giftofgab24
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Looks like he's got a different hairstyle. It's longer. Someone's hair can change how they look quite a bit. Especially from side profile.
A rather large segment of gaf is REALLY into playing as female characters exclusively, so its in their best interest that Joel is dead. For reference, see the reveal for Dishonoured 2 from 2 years ago...
Crossing Eden
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Facial capture confirmed thankfully, from the start of the project this time so there shouldn't be any uncanny valley moments like in UC4.@Neil_Druckmann
Seventy_X_Seven
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I'm in the camp that Joel did no wrong, Ellie would of never consented and she was too young to consent anyways, and that the Fireflies are total pricks who sneakily hid a very important detail and may not even know what they're doing. That said, I'm happy they are bringing Joel and Ellie back for a sequel!
Oldest Snake
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Longer hair + longer facial hair + different angle = looks different.
Gravy Boat
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Ok. If you want to believe in ghosts you can, but nothing in the trailer or the first game suggests that's a direction they would take. The idea of ghost joel is pretty much entirely based on us not seeing his face, for which there are way more plausible narrative and real world explanations.
What did he mean by this?
More_Badass
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Older, more gaunt Joel?
Blackpanther25
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We living the dream! So many good games coming out.
orthodoxy1095
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Didn't notice that blood rolling down her cheek the first time. Damn.
@Neil_Druckmann
So awesome!
Negotiator
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For the MP? Yes.
Inkvoterad
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That would be soooooo dumb though.
I hope it focuses on the ruined friendship between joel and ellie after the ending in the first game.
It's not the hair, his facial structure looks a little different. Same thing happened to Drake between UC3 and UC4. I'm guessing it's just a next-gen upgrade.
@Neil_Druckmann
Actually, Troy is not actually there with them. Neil, Ashley and the people viewing the pic are all hallucinating. I mean, it's uncharacteristically Troy to smile. Must be a ghost.
Guys, don't know if this has been mentioned, but there's a machete on the ground next to the dude. Explains why Ellie is so shook. Joel, if he's alive, wasn't around to stop her this time.
Stop what? She kills a lot of fucking people in the first game.
I need side by side but when I watched the trailer it immediately stood out to me as the same.
That, and saying "The Last of Us 2" outloud sounds like "The Last of Us Too".
LookAtMeGo
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This is going to be the greatest game of all time. I can feel it.
Obliterator
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Didn't notice that blood rolling down her cheek the first time. Damn.
Yeah and she doesn't even try to wipe it. She just keeps sitting there playing and singing.
Regardless, something really terrible had to have happened for Ellie to be this far gone. She seems pretty damn broken. I think that's also where a lot of the Joel is dead speculation is coming from, because that would likely traumatize / set her off.
That's still lazy, hackeneyed writing that doesn't fit TLOU at all.
The reason why Joel's face wasn't shown is because they are being coy and this is a teaser, they knew we would recognize Joel simply by his silhouette, hair/beard and voice.
dealer-
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This, not literally a ghost, just in Ellie's mind when she plays the guitar.
Either way, the first was very much Joel's story so I can see the focus being on Ellie this time.
Let's not forget what almost happened in the first game.
Only the Naughty Gods could dethrone the best game of all time with a second one.
I played tlou 3.5 times now, and even beat it on grounded.
I rarely even finish a game once....
orthodoxy1095
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Oh I don't think it's a hallucination either, and I dearly hope they don't try something like a schizophrenia story. But I can see the argument based solely on what's shown in the trailer.
Theories are not spoilers, stop treating them as such. It's insane.
Obliterator
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Oh I don't, but something specific had to maker her go on this rampage. She obviously would already have issues growing up, but she specifically refers to hunting down and killing all of "them".
What ruined friendship? Some people really didnt understand TLOU ending...
...eh? It's not a spoiler it's complete speculation.
More_Badass
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Going after the Fireflies, and learning the truth in the process
Crossing Eden
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One of the original ideas for this game was that Ellie would be able to control the infected, take into account that that's something they considered and prototyped.
What does have to do with a machete?
Pilgrimzero
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I believe the theory. Only she will see Joel. It will be spoiled in game fairly quickly. Like once she gets to Bill. Her actual partner in the game will be Bill.
Well, it could be related to the fact that she is still infected. We know she's "immune" but the cordyceps are still in her brain and maybe the infection is just slowed. A game where Ellie slowly loses it due to the fungus slowly taking her mind would be a crazy way to go. Probably not the direction they will go it, but it's a thought. No vaccine, just a delay to the inevitable. That would cover the hallucination.
the_milkybar_kid
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Ghost Joel... Are you fucking kidding me?
Looks incredible and I'll be re-purchasing a PS4 just for this.
Looks incredible and I'll be re-purchasing a PS4 just for this.
Hahah, I just entered this thread and I saw nothing but that. I thought it was from the 4chan leak or something. I completely overreacted, but I would seriously have died inside if I had a big spoiler of TLOU ruined. It's one of my favourite games ever. I didn't see what a silly theory it was.
Didn't notice that blood rolling down her cheek the first time. Damn.
How is it even possible to miss it?