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Rogue One: A Star Wars Story |OT| They rebel - SPOILERS
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Bobby Roberts
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So, Krennic's "THE POWAAAA That we are dealing with here" is cut out of the movie, and the setting of that line was obviously the Death Star.
IN THE MOVIE, he delivers a different line about the Death Star, one that's not as certain, and it's delivered at Vader's castle - but Vader's response to that line is obviously MEANT to be a response to "THE POWAAAAAA"
I think that scene was originally supposed to be more of a straight up back 'n' forth, as opposed to a scared underling trying to sweet-talk a superior.
edit: Surfinn, was I right? You dug this, right?
IN THE MOVIE, he delivers a different line about the Death Star, one that's not as certain, and it's delivered at Vader's castle - but Vader's response to that line is obviously MEANT to be a response to "THE POWAAAAAA"
I think that scene was originally supposed to be more of a straight up back 'n' forth, as opposed to a scared underling trying to sweet-talk a superior.
edit: Surfinn, was I right? You dug this, right?
Just came back, and I loved it. The last half was easily the strong of any Star Wars movie IMO. I really liked seeing Tarkin again, but I found the cgi to be a bit dodgy. I wasn't sold on it at all, but the voice was incredibly accurate. His scenes were still great, though.
I really, really loved how dark this movie was. They were smart to make the parallels with the atom bomb and the all skepticism that came with it, up until it actually proved to be effective.
I was worried that the spin-off were gonna be really forced, but I was totally proven wrong on this one. It was fantastic, and I'm optimistic about Han Solo turning out well.
I really, really loved how dark this movie was. They were smart to make the parallels with the atom bomb and the all skepticism that came with it, up until it actually proved to be effective.
I was worried that the spin-off were gonna be really forced, but I was totally proven wrong on this one. It was fantastic, and I'm optimistic about Han Solo turning out well.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I too thought it was Mustafar, and the fact that they didn't name it (which I didn't realize until reading this thread) makes so much sense. It's subtle. I dig that so much.
Lord Vader lives in a castle.
Vader has a butler that announces the arrival of his guests.
When they're at the base where Jyn's dad is, they grab a storm trooper by the foot and pull him over the edge, and he Wilhelms.
OricWindstar
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It's insanity he did this in a month. He fucking crushed it. Withheld enough to make it his own, while putting callbacks in all the right places.
I wouldn't mind it coming back. Haha, I kept waiting for the Mustafar subtitle to show up, but they didn't go for it.
SuperStiltzkin
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When Raddus' fleet warped it I was like , "shieeeeeet son!" The movie really does a good job of showing the sacrifice of the rebels. Even though you don't get a clear characterization of every soldier, you get enough battle chatter, close ups, and hero moments for them that you feel something when they go down.
I mean all the Sith Lords we've seen call eachother, well, Lord.
yeah, to be fair, bolding the "Lord" part was just for flavour
basically: He lives in a castle, he sleeps in a bacta tank, he doesn't open the front door himself but has a servant who does
we know what happens when people just walk in unannounced. #awkward. #howaboutknocking
WhiteRabbitEXE
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When I see posts like that I just don't know what the fuck anymore.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
I went in with no hype and went out with no hype. It was okay. The first 2/3 of the movie bored me to tears but I thought that the final 1/3 was actually pretty good. I applaud the dark direction of the ending, but it would have been so much more powerful if the first half had actually made me care about any of the characters - I mean, I literally just got out of the theater and yet I can't remember even one of the character's names. Who even were any of these people? I don't know and the film never seemed to try to make me care.
Also, the editing in the beginning was rough. I disliked how it kept jumping from random location to random location. It was disorienting and made a good chunk of the movie feel disjointed.
She definitely has some of the weakest characterization of any of the Star Wars leads.
The CGI for both Tarkin and Leia was...not particularly convincing. The technology absolutely isn't there yet to make photo realistic humans. I was surprised by how much screen time Tarkin in particular got - overconfident is a good way of putting it.
They totally should have made Tarkin a hologram and refrained from showing Leia's face.
Also, the editing in the beginning was rough. I disliked how it kept jumping from random location to random location. It was disorienting and made a good chunk of the movie feel disjointed.
She definitely has some of the weakest characterization of any of the Star Wars leads.
The CGI for both Tarkin and Leia was...not particularly convincing. The technology absolutely isn't there yet to make photo realistic humans. I was surprised by how much screen time Tarkin in particular got - overconfident is a good way of putting it.
They totally should have made Tarkin a hologram and refrained from showing Leia's face.
i went with a friend of mine to see it, and we were fanboying over one pilot just because he is father marcus on the Exorcist, and we were like "woo marcus!"
i cant really say his name here tho, lol
There were some great pieces throughout the film. I thought he did very well for not being JW.
Well I mean of course Vader has servants. Dude is so high up the ranks of the Empire he doesn't even need a rank. Almost everyone knows to respect his ass or get choked.yeah, to be fair, bolding the "Lord" part was just for flavour
basically: He lives in a castle, he sleeps in a bacta tank, he doesn't open the front door himself but has a servant who does
we know what happens when people just walk in unannounced. #awkward. #howaboutknocking
The Driver
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I liked it. CGI cameos/roles where distracting as hell and I could have done without them.
Last act makes up for the first 2/3rds being mostly dull, my only wishes are that the crew would have gotten to bond a bit more instead of always being snarky (K2 being the only exception) with eachother and to replace the lame shootout with Krennic with Jynn, Cassian and K2 getting offed by Vader.
I liked Vader wrecking those Rebels but it was just fan service. If it was the crew we just watched a whole movie about it would have actually had some bite to it. Wanted to see Jynn show defiance in the face of death. I did like the imagery of the Deathstar sunset though.
Last act makes up for the first 2/3rds being mostly dull, my only wishes are that the crew would have gotten to bond a bit more instead of always being snarky (K2 being the only exception) with eachother and to replace the lame shootout with Krennic with Jynn, Cassian and K2 getting offed by Vader.
I liked Vader wrecking those Rebels but it was just fan service. If it was the crew we just watched a whole movie about it would have actually had some bite to it. Wanted to see Jynn show defiance in the face of death. I did like the imagery of the Deathstar sunset though.
nope, sorry, have to disagree with you there.
When it happened, I felt like this would have been the perfect spot to add a Wilhelm scream, but i'm rather sure it wasn't.
ryutaro's mama
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Darth Vader dropping dad jokes in a lava castle.
What a time to be alive.
I thought it was ok. Better than 7 for sure but meh compared to the OT.
4-6 stay winning.
What a time to be alive.
I thought it was ok. Better than 7 for sure but meh compared to the OT.
4-6 stay winning.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
That was not a Wilhelm, you're right.
yeah, like luke wanting to enter the imperial academy at first and then 30 minutes later being the hero of the rebel alliance.
c'mon now, dont start with this shit, is she a mary sue too?
Duane Cunningham
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Maybe somebody flipped the hyperdrive switch?
Most of what can be said has already be said. I'm definetly on the "awesome movie" front. It does has it's issues. What it really did to me is to show the probelms that TFA has. Rogue1 excells at being a movie designed to please Star Wars fans.
Some titbits.
Red Leader was the same guy as in ANH. Was the "Read Leader standing by" shot reused from ANH, or another CG makeup?
Is Porkins in ANH Red 5? Did he replace that fat asian pilot? Is the Red 5 callsign reserved for "less fit" pilots?
[edit] Just checked. Porkins is Red 6
Some titbits.
Red Leader was the same guy as in ANH. Was the "Read Leader standing by" shot reused from ANH, or another CG makeup?
Is Porkins in ANH Red 5? Did he replace that fat asian pilot? Is the Red 5 callsign reserved for "less fit" pilots?
[edit] Just checked. Porkins is Red 6
I agree with you, really happy with the score. But... when Krennic landed on Scarif, though, it sounded A LOT like his Dawn of the Planet of the Apes score, haha.
SuperStiltzkin
Member
Was that the mustached blue leader?
I actually really like Krennics theme or whatever its called.
Well that.... that certainly does make sense.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Red and Gold leader are footage from 1977, no CG recreations.
Porkins is not Red 5. The whole point of that 30 second sidetrack in the space battle was solely to show why the Red 5 callsign was open when Luke joined.
peaceiscloser
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SO wait, the tower of sauron was on Mustafar? I was just confused because they didn't have a location title stamp like they did for the rest of the locations they went to (which was a little jarring)
Enjoyed the movie a lot; if anything it does its job in making you really understand WHY Luke was A New Hope. The desperation of all the characters to get the plans out at the end of the movie was so great, where one by one each of the leads "passes" the baton of the hope of the rebellion to each other, until the end when it finally arrives in the hands of Princess Leia. I thought it was poignant when that one Rebel soldier locked in the hallway with Vader accepted his fate and passed off the plans through the crack in the doorway.
I know pretty much all of us are well ingrained in Star Wars lore, but I wonder how non-fans or series newcomers would have understood things going on? There's all these characters who show up and say stuff with barely any introduction. I just wonder if it would have been confusing if this was someone's first Star Wars.
Tarkin CGI took me a minute to adjust to. I don't know if that was the right decision to make, but at the very least it made the reveal of Princess Leia more palatable.
Giolon
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Red 5 was Luke! Now we know why that callsign was available.
Damn I feel ashamed now.....
Herr Starr
Member
I noticed one instance of it being used, but it was the most subtle version of it I've heard in a movie so far. When Jyn pulled a stormtrooper to his death early in the movie (while she was trying to reach her father at his research base), I think they used the Wilhelm scream for his fall, but they faded it out really fast.
Edit: Beaten by gblues. At least I can back him up in what he's saying.
whoa. totally missed that.
Just got home. The action was by far the best in any star wars movie. the whole second half is just action action action.
The writing is meh. Some of it is corny. The last little bit where Jyn and Cassian hold hands and hug is like halfway between friendship and them wanting to shoehorn in some sort of love emotion in there.
I dislike the first showing of vader when he uses the force choke. it's fan service yes, but it's a bit out of character for him to just use it like that, when he originally did it to make a statement to Motti, but here it just didn't fit for Krennic wanting to hear he that he was still in charge. Vader would have just walked back to him and get in his face, look down and tell him he didn't give a shit about his petty position. Donnie yen and Jian wen's characters were awesome and wish that Riz Ahmed got more screen time. They were all likeable characters and I could have watched more of them together.
It's like a modern The Dirty Dozen, which is fine. I could give it like a 7.5 or 8. The first like 15-20 mins they are trying to cram as much as possible in for story that you're hopping from place to place in short spans of time
The writing is meh. Some of it is corny. The last little bit where Jyn and Cassian hold hands and hug is like halfway between friendship and them wanting to shoehorn in some sort of love emotion in there.
I dislike the first showing of vader when he uses the force choke. it's fan service yes, but it's a bit out of character for him to just use it like that, when he originally did it to make a statement to Motti, but here it just didn't fit for Krennic wanting to hear he that he was still in charge. Vader would have just walked back to him and get in his face, look down and tell him he didn't give a shit about his petty position. Donnie yen and Jian wen's characters were awesome and wish that Riz Ahmed got more screen time. They were all likeable characters and I could have watched more of them together.
It's like a modern The Dirty Dozen, which is fine. I could give it like a 7.5 or 8. The first like 15-20 mins they are trying to cram as much as possible in for story that you're hopping from place to place in short spans of time
I took that as a nudge, kind of like "you know where we are, we don't need to tell you."
Just got back from a screening. I thought it was amazing, up there with ESB.
It's amazing the kind of story you can tell when your cast is basically disposable. No need to worry about continuity, no plot armor to worry about.
There were a few problems, sure, but nothing drastic:
- CG Tarkin was uncanny valley central. I agree with the other poster who complained of excessive emoting.
- Darth Mordor was kind of silly.
- The "don't choke on your ambition" line was corny af. Gotta blame the director for that one because it's not the pun that was out of place, but the way it was played did not seem in character.
It's amazing the kind of story you can tell when your cast is basically disposable. No need to worry about continuity, no plot armor to worry about.
There were a few problems, sure, but nothing drastic:
- CG Tarkin was uncanny valley central. I agree with the other poster who complained of excessive emoting.
- Darth Mordor was kind of silly.
- The "don't choke on your ambition" line was corny af. Gotta blame the director for that one because it's not the pun that was out of place, but the way it was played did not seem in character.
phazedplasma
Member
Just got back. Overall I loved it.
My main complaint is the incredibly weak score. Even Force Awakens was waaaaaay bolder than this.
Its really sad.
Also no Biggs or Wedge.
But yeah, whoever said it was like a Darkhorse comic come to life was right.
My main complaint is the incredibly weak score. Even Force Awakens was waaaaaay bolder than this.
Its really sad.
Also no Biggs or Wedge.
But yeah, whoever said it was like a Darkhorse comic come to life was right.
ryutaro's mama
Member
While the tropical locale on the ground was a pretty fresh and new, gritty ground battle, the final space battle was sooooo Battle Of Endor, right down to the Not Ackbar Mon Calimari.
C'mon Star Wars, get some new inventive, finak act space battle set pieces for your films.
C'mon Star Wars, get some new inventive, finak act space battle set pieces for your films.
there is wedge, bail organa talks to him but he is offscreen, i mean if the actor didnt wanted to return for ep 7, much les for a spin off, but wedge was referencied
Scrooge McDuck
Member
That's not Wedge. Bail Organa is addressing a "Captain Antilles", who is Raymus Antilles, the captain of Tantive IV.
I love rereading through the thread and reading quotes like this lol
jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
my girlfriend had no idea Tarkin was CG. So that probably is playing just fine with the mass audience.
It was damn good CG. Almost out of the uncanny valley. Almost
It was damn good CG. Almost out of the uncanny valley. Almost
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