You need it for crafting Ammo expansions. So they can be useful
Horizon Zero Dawn |OT| The Land After Time
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You need it for crafting Ammo expansions. So they can be useful
Bubba_Sparks
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It's fantastic looking no doubt, but playing it made me want to go back to the Witcher 3 and GTA V to see how they hold up. Quite frankly, when it comes to open world design both stand head and shoulders above the rest. I just spent about ~30-45 minutes in nVidia Ansel flying around Skelige and Beuclair snapping pictures.
yes pouches, potions etc.
I was surprised it was a level 8 dungeon. The last enemy was very tough for me to kill, and I was level 12.
Theslammer
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First cauldron is 8. I did it at level 11ish. I might be higher, though.
Me too. It says level 8, so I figured I'd be fine at level 11. Nope. The guy at the end is 18 and he just obliterates me. I had to give up and load an old save outside of the cauldron. The video I watched of a guy defeating it does it at level 21. Wut. I guess I will come back later when I'm much higher level.
Are the cauldrons where those little cave signs are on the map? Like the one in the Embrace and the one outside of it? Are they meant to be explored at any time, or is there a quest that takes you there? I don't want to go inside one before I'm supposed to...
Theslammer
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Me too. It says level 8, so I figured I'd be fine at level 11. Nope. The guy at the end is 18 and he just obliterates me. I had to give up and load an old save outside of the cauldron. The video I watched of a guy defeating it does it at level 21. Wut. I guess I will come back later when I'm much higher level.
I beat it far lower than that.
Rolling is essential, and make sure you have the sling and tripwire. He does a lot of charging, so the latter is actually a great weapon despite being in a confined space.
This game feels Far Cry and Tomb Raider's (reboot) secret love child.
GG really nailed how Aloy controls. It simply feels great to run around and shoot things with my bow. The only thing I dislike so far is the map/symbols can be kind of hard to suss out and there doesn't seem to be a filter option.
On another note, I was wondering if anyone else was reminded of Ninja Theory's Enslaved: Odyssey to the West? Getting major vibes of it while playing through Horizon.
GG really nailed how Aloy controls. It simply feels great to run around and shoot things with my bow. The only thing I dislike so far is the map/symbols can be kind of hard to suss out and there doesn't seem to be a filter option.
On another note, I was wondering if anyone else was reminded of Ninja Theory's Enslaved: Odyssey to the West? Getting major vibes of it while playing through Horizon.
I feel like this is Dragon Age Origins all over again.
Yeah love that game as well.
UncleMeat
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I'm playing on normal and am in this first cauldron (level 8), I'm level 10 I think, is this boss supposed to be so bullet spongy or am I missing something?
I poured a ton of arrows both regular and fire into it's "weak spots" and am barely doing any damage. I only have one trip wire left and a bunch of arrows but I'm not sure I have enough ammo to kill it but I'm too far into the level to back out or resupply. Am I boned?
I poured a ton of arrows both regular and fire into it's "weak spots" and am barely doing any damage. I only have one trip wire left and a bunch of arrows but I'm not sure I have enough ammo to kill it but I'm too far into the level to back out or resupply. Am I boned?
texhnolyze
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People seem to neglect the other weapons and only focusing on the bow and spear.
Use them, people.
Use them, people.
Lifejumper
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Is the first cauldron a quest or something?
Theslammer
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I was maybe a level above you:
Use the stronger bow for this, not the basic bow. Tripwires and rope are great, and using the sling with the shock ammo is very good as well. You'll have to use your whole assortment of weapons for this, and make sure you roll a lot.
FlutterPuffs
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Meat gets more important later on when you have to start to depend on potions for heals.
I've been skimping on killing animals too but now, Im happy to see boars to kill.
all of my hate
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I see. I think I was only like a level 7 when it wrecked me (didnt know what I was getting in too).
Bubba_Sparks
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Same thing crossed my mind. Gathering resources feels eerily similar to Tomb Raider, right down to the sound it makes when Aloy harvest the wood. I even get some Witcher vibes from the detective vision having you follow people's trails. Though Batman Arkham Asylum is probably more apt, seeing as that is one of the first uses of such a gameplay mechanic I can remember.
BakedTanooki
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After playing my first 7 hours, i am really impressed and surprised.
It really has the best open world visuals i have seen so far.
I have seen some people claiming it has uncharted 4 level of visuals + polishing, in an open world, but i disagree. That would be unreal (or almost impossible?). But still, super impressive. Plus, it has a nice art style / world design.
The gameplay is good, fun and interesting so far.
What surprises me, are the story / Characters.
The stories, characters and writing in guerilla's games, were never good and super forgettable. So i really expected nothing special here. But it seems like a big step up!
The story is actually very interesting. Can not wait for what's to come, and i want to experience the mysteries of this world.
It really has the best open world visuals i have seen so far.
I have seen some people claiming it has uncharted 4 level of visuals + polishing, in an open world, but i disagree. That would be unreal (or almost impossible?). But still, super impressive. Plus, it has a nice art style / world design.
The gameplay is good, fun and interesting so far.
What surprises me, are the story / Characters.
The stories, characters and writing in guerilla's games, were never good and super forgettable. So i really expected nothing special here. But it seems like a big step up!
The story is actually very interesting. Can not wait for what's to come, and i want to experience the mysteries of this world.
For the love of God, don't do a Cauldron on Very Hard until you're wildly overleveled. Everything about the last fight is F- terrible. No way out, no way to re-trigger a quick save after I've spent some time redoing customization setting up for the fight, monsters before the boss fight you have to clear every time, and then a tedious, janky boss fight with awful hit boxes.
Everything about this is just terrible.
Everything about this is just terrible.
Haloid1177
Banned
20 hours in, level 28, 40.5% complete. I'm loving every moment I get to spend with this game, its characters, and the world. It's been a long time since a game grabbed me like this.
FlutterPuffs
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Also if the robots seem like bullet sponges to you, you aren't using your whole arsenal, or even using them incorrectly.
Make sure you take advantage of their weaknesses, and try to hit their weak points.
I often find myself pausing to the inventory and reading the bestiary while fighting to get more info on them.
Make sure you take advantage of their weaknesses, and try to hit their weak points.
I often find myself pausing to the inventory and reading the bestiary while fighting to get more info on them.
gundamkyoukai
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Yep other weapons are super useful .
I used them to hack robos and then watch the chaos .
DriftingSpirit
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Sounds more like you just aren't ready lol.
keanu reeves whoa are you me? I was thinking the same thing. DAO is one of my all time favorites.
Theslammer
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If you're having trouble with the end of Cauldron SIGMA, I uploaded this to show you my strategy. Not perfect, but I beat it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agAqwVY1YJ0&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agAqwVY1YJ0&feature=youtu.be
Whew beat cauldron sigma and holy crap was I not ready for the bellowwhatsitsname, had a tango with one out in the wild and went nope, did it eventually but gonna have to mess around with other bows because tearing off those parts is fucking essential and I can only imagine there's further emphasis on that with other enemies.
Lys Skygge
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The map is so much bigger than I thought it'd be. So good.
Primethius
Banned
Yep, even on very hard so far, I haven't had an issue with bullet spongeyness. I can take out a slightly higher level sawtooth with a couple of well places fire based traps and shooting the weak points. I just did that for a quest and it took about 15-20 seconds to take down.
gundamkyoukai
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Cauldron sigma was easy for me by the time i did there i was level 20 with upgrade gear lol.
I just love killing stuff in this game
I just love killing stuff in this game
Darryl M R
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Can someone give me their impression on the war bow
UncleMeat
Member
Don't have that one but thanks for the tips - at least I know I'm not a total idiot and missing something obvious. Probably just going to lower the difficulty so I can move on and get better tools for next time.
I'm always hesitant to buy weapons in rpgs because I like to see what the story gives you but it seems like you're better off buying them in Horizon.
texhnolyze
Banned
Another minor gripe from me. Why does the camera closes up in towns? Is it to preserve performance as there are lots of NPCs and details to display? It makes it harder to navigate.
Yep. Definitely thought it deserved to have a bigger impact.
I really enjoyed Monkey and Trip's relationship and how it evolved over the course of the game.
There's a lot if influences to be sure. I was thinking the same thing about the wood deal. Lara has a bit more animation to her branch snapping, lol.
DAO is fantastic. It's also my go to example whenever I think about poor head armor/armor designs.
Thanks for sharing. I wish I'd bought the ropecaster before I went in. I'll have it for my next try. I also need to up the capacity of my medicine pouch. The sling seemed to work the best for me until I ran out of ammo for it.
all of my hate
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I can't buy any of the purple shit.
Anyone?
More_Badass
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Super satisfying to nail Watchers in their eye. One shot kill, and especially awesome when you hit them mid-leap
No, I got him alright. "Not being ready" isn't an excuse for the bad save mechanics. A bunch of bad design decisions compound in a shitty way that is wildly atypical both for the game, and for the open-world genre as a whole. How hard would it be to at least let us trigger a quick-save after we've customized our shit? Or had it after the first patrol is cleared?
Like, 6 or 7 different things have a conflux of crap if you're on Very Hard.
My solution on Very Hard:
Sling grenade spam. Use Electric balls to debilitate him until you take care of the main Fire pouch on its back, and then just keep him slowed with a full stack of Frost debuffs. Keep hitting him with arrows when you get the chance, and the nades can do some gnarly tear damage along the way.
Strangelove77
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Tying down those fucking birds...
Yabberwocky
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I am pleasantly surprised how little time I'm spending in menus in Horizon. Being able to heal, pick up items, and craft on the go is fantastic, it creates such a good flow. TW3 drove me crazy with the amount of time I spent in menus, and it's also one of my biggest concerns with BotW. Aloy's Focus/Witcher sense equivalent is well done, too, and I love how non-intrusive it is when you're tracking something - and preserves the game's art direction.
The audio/visual cues and telegraphing when enemies attack is so goddamn gooooood.
Yeah, it's so satisfying!
The audio/visual cues and telegraphing when enemies attack is so goddamn gooooood.
Yeah, it's so satisfying!
ChasingComets
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Just hit the first
boss fight. Holy crap, this is the moment I fell in love with the combat. Everything else was jut dodge and shoot at the machine until now. This was on another level with the incredible destruction of the entire village and actually having to use your whole arsenal of tools and traps.
Demon
Doesn't matter. Being unable to escape or fast travel out of a cauldron and having to rely on reloading an old save because you stumbled into something you couldn't handle is inexcusable. Be warned of Cauldron Zeta.
DieAntwoord
Banned
Unless I'm doing something wrong the "create job" feature doesn't really work for me. I create the job but it doesn't really make a marker or anything to find resources.
I was REALLY looking forward to it since I figured it would take out a lot of fluff of resource gathering
I was REALLY looking forward to it since I figured it would take out a lot of fluff of resource gathering
DriftingSpirit
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I wasn't referring to the save stuff.
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