Nintendo First-Party Thread: The Teams, The Games, The Future
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TreasureHunterG
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There are some Nintendo devs which current projects are unknown such as:
- Camelot
- Pikmin/Mario Maker Team
- Star Fox Zero Team
- 1, 2 Switch Team
- ND Cube
- Retro
- 1-Up (or whatever they're involved with)
- Creatures (Pokémon Switch?)
- Genius Sonority
- Eighting
- Chunsoft
- Grounding
- Headstrong Games
- Indies Zero
- Jupiter
- Next Level
- Sora/Sakurai
- Skip
- Syn Sophia
- Tantalus
- Valhalla
- Vitei
- Platinum Games
Perhaps?
- Mistwalker/Sakaguchi game
There's still a lot of stuff coming out.
- Camelot
- Pikmin/Mario Maker Team
- Star Fox Zero Team
- 1, 2 Switch Team
- ND Cube
- Retro
- 1-Up (or whatever they're involved with)
- Creatures (Pokémon Switch?)
- Genius Sonority
- Eighting
- Chunsoft
- Grounding
- Headstrong Games
- Indies Zero
- Jupiter
- Next Level
- Sora/Sakurai
- Skip
- Syn Sophia
- Tantalus
- Valhalla
- Vitei
- Platinum Games
Perhaps?
- Mistwalker/Sakaguchi game
There's still a lot of stuff coming out.
TheMoon
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did you cross-reference with the OP? because that list is more up-to-date and more complete
TreasureHunterG
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Be careful with these words in a world where Shenmue 3, FF7 Remake, The Last Guardian, Beyond Good and Evil 2 and Metroid Prime 4 are a reality... you might get hurt.
TheMoon
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I'm not sure that's true lol
Shikamaru Ninja
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First Person and farm sims sound like typical platinum games. So Metroid Prime 4 and Animal Crossing it is.
Not75Drops
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Pretty good showing from Nintendo's internal teams this year.
Looks like their external teams will be picking it up next year (IntSys, HAL, Good-Feel etc.). I don't think Prime 4 and the new Pokemon game will make it next year though, especially the latter.
Looks like their external teams will be picking it up next year (IntSys, HAL, Good-Feel etc.). I don't think Prime 4 and the new Pokemon game will make it next year though, especially the latter.
I seriously hope not, the series needs to return to the safe hands of EAD.
TheDinoman
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Technically, EAD never worked on Metroid. It was always R&D1's baby, and they were shuttered and mostly transferred to SPD, and that ended up being fused with EAD to become EPD...
Ah cool, I never knew that!
Either way, I'm happy that Nintendo are taking Metroid seriously again. After Samus was parred off during the 30th anniversary, and after the series was shithoused off to Retro Studios, I was under the impression that the series would be put on hold indefinitely once Retro turned their attention to Donkey Kong.
The series has always been up there with EAD Mario & Zelda in terms of quality, so the thought of a big-budget Metroid game being developed by Nintendo's plucky youth is a tantalising prospect.
It better not get the Starfox Zero treatment.
- 1-Up (or whatever they're involved with)
They help with other studios' games.
- Headstrong Games
I think they are dead.
- Indies Zero
Sushi game
- Next Level
Probably MP4
- Tantalus
Porting third party games
- Jupiter
Doing that Final Fantasy Picross game for 3DS
TheMoon
Member
Careful, junior!
Speculation on my part about Fire Emblem Warriors and Xenoblade Chronicles 2 but this is what 2017 is looking like for the Switch.
I'm thinking we'll see Yoshi, Kirby, Pikmin 4, Retro's game / new IP, Pokemon, Smash and Animal Crossing next year.
EDIT: Mario + Rabbids included because it's a game that uses a first party IP primarily.
I'm thinking Fire Emblem Warriors is October (they've been saying "Fall") and Xeno is November or early December.
Hmm? I didn't think it was a secret that Metroid Prime 1 went through some seriously rocky development. Most people at the time were unhappy with the decision to outsource a Metroid game to a new studio who'd be developing it in 3D.
TheMoon
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What you're saying now is not at all what "shithoused off to Retro" sounded like.
March of the Crabs
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If this Prime 4 dev team is truly internal, will this be Nintendo's first non-Retro-made FPS? And also the first Japanese FPS in a long time?
Well, since Duck Hunt (lol), but yes, I think it will be! Which is what makes this so exciting, particularly if the Splatoon guys are involved in some way.
Luigi's mansion 3 would be my guess
March of the Crabs
Member
I'm excited to explore and get lost in whatever insane worlds Nintendo's top-tier level designers are able to create.
Eolz
Member
Sounds like it! It's interesting how they said they're looking at the first Prime game above others.
There'd be no point putting NLG on it after the reception FF got. Would kill all the hype for it.
This yeah. 2 was a commercial and critical success.
TheMoon
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I don't think there's any rational reason to assume this is an internal game. Sounds way more unlikely than, for example, suggesting they teamed up with Human Head or NLG or Arkane. Mostly because Tanabe is in charge of external projects.
Where was this said about looking to Prime 1?!
Also, they don't decide devs based on what would create/deflate hype. NLG made a great game with FF, they made another great game just before that. They know the Nintendo-drill.
The phrase "new development team" would seem to indicate that it's either a newly formed internal team or a recently formed external studio. I can't really see it applying to NLG or Arkane (as much as I'd love to see Arkane take a stab at Metroid). And while Tanabe has been in charge of external products in the past, with the recent restructuring of Nintendo's dev teams, and the merging of SPD & EAD, it's possible he's overseeing internal teams as well now.
Edit: I suppose it could apply to an external team that's "new to Nintendo", but I still think it rules NLG out.
Edit 2: Now the more I think about it, the more Arkane makes sense. Damn you TheMoon, now I'll just be disappointed when it doesn't turn out to be the case!
The media fact sheet says that it "returns to the First Person Adventure roots of the original Metroid Prime game".
I really, really want a Luigi's Mansion 3 from NLG. They did an outstanding job with 2. If they keep the multiple mansions and make each mansion free to explore and get rid of the mission based structure, it could be really great. They could even have 3 mansions at the end of the street with different themes, but each having keys you need to get from one to progress in the other - really expand on the exploration and adventure aspect.
TheMoon
Member
1) sorry
...just threw my fan-fic scenario in there (Human Head, makers of the canned Prey 2) and then added Arkane because they have that Texas immersive sim FPS heritage. 2) oh that was singular, I had read it as "Prime games" referring to the series as a whole.
Nothing has officially been said that would indicate a Japanese team.
1) sorry
Well, Arkane does make some degree of sense if Nintendo were looking for an external studio to develop a Metroid game, as they have quite a bit of experience working with first person adventure-y games, and as their last two games haven't done particularly well sales-wise, Zenimax may be willing to allow them to work with an external publisher on an established IP. Their Lyon studio appears to still be working on Dishonored, though, and Austin only finished Prey very recently, which would seem to me an extremely quick turnaround from release to disappointing sales to looking for new projects to signing with Nintendo to announcing the game. Perhaps they did the deal before Prey released, if Prey wasn't doing great in pre-orders and they weren't confident about continuing the series, but it still seems like wishful thinking.
astrogamer
Member
Aside from saying it's a new team so it should be internal. At the very least that discounts Next Level Games
TheMoon
Member
Really interested in finding out what Retro is making. I can't see Nintendo not making a new Donkey Kong, especially after their plans to move forward with the Donkey Kong rollercoaster at Universal.
Yet, if Retro hired the Deus Ex composer I can't see him doing the score for a Donkey Kong game. I'm puzzled.
Yet, if Retro hired the Deus Ex composer I can't see him doing the score for a Donkey Kong game. I'm puzzled.
BRSxIgnition
Member
I'm almost 100% certain they're acting as a support studio for Metroid Prime 4, either in terms of music or art direction or both.
It'd make sense, especially if they're well into development of their new IP.
whyamihere
Banned
At this point, it's silly that we have no idea what Retro is doing.
We probably shouldn't go too deep down that rabbit hole.
True, but it's interesting to consider what Nintendo's options would be if they were looking for an external studio for the franchise.
I suspect it's not Donkey Kong, based pretty much entirely on the timing. As they already had a perfectly good HD engine for the game I just don't see them taking so long in development that it wouldn't be ready by the end of this year. I imagine they've been assisting on some EPD games (e.g. Splatoon 2), but I hope the main game they're working on is something new. Nintendo seems more open to that these days with Splatoon and ARMS, so they may well have allowed Retro to have a go at a new franchise.
Nintendo has a new strategy with game releases that is becoming more apparent with the Switch. I think they sit on games that are finished up, and do not announce them before they are sure they will release it in a certain time frame. If its Donkey Kong, I suspect its already finished and waiting for a release spot to open up.
Dark Cloud
Member
I think we're going to get another Nintendo Indies Direct. I wouldn't be surprised if we have one this month.
TheMoon
Member
Of course. There's always more. We're not even through June.
TheSpaceBetween
Member
So youre saying we should still hope for Half-Life 3?
Dark Cloud
Member
As far as Retro goes I'll go back to the original rumor that said 2 Metroid games were being made. I believe the original rumor was Retro was working on 2 games with one being a new IP and the other with them overlooking a new Metroid Prime game. We had insiders on here saying it sounded like there was a 2D Metroid being made for 3DS by a European team.
I'll stick with Retro is making a new IP and it'll be western oriented. I can see it falling into two categories- the Destiny/Anthem type of games or the Uncharted/The Last of Us/Tomb Raider type of games.
I for one am hoping it's an Uncharted type of game. I would love to see them making a "realistic cinematic" type of game for Nintendo in the adventure genre.
3D DK is another possibility for me.
I'll stick with Retro is making a new IP and it'll be western oriented. I can see it falling into two categories- the Destiny/Anthem type of games or the Uncharted/The Last of Us/Tomb Raider type of games.
I for one am hoping it's an Uncharted type of game. I would love to see them making a "realistic cinematic" type of game for Nintendo in the adventure genre.
3D DK is another possibility for me.
TheSpaceBetween
Member
I would agree if we are assuming another 2D DKC game, unless it's already finished and they've been sitting on it (doubtful). If it's 3D DK, they are building essentially everything from the ground up similar to the new God of War. The only thing tying it to past entries is that it exists in that universe, but there is next to nothing in terms of what you can bring over from past games, and that is a tremendous amount of work for such a small team who always has good amount of content in their games.
They hired the Darksiders lead character artist to make Tropical Freeze, so it wouldn't be surprising. I would absolutely love a 3D DK from them.
Yeah, I'd be shocked if they weren't there to lend a helping hand. Perhaps not in the design of the game but to lend advice/tech/assets etc.
Eolz
Member
I can guarantee you there's no way a Zenimax studio works on it.
About the "they don't decide devs etc". They do. When a game gets a bad reaction when a really hardcore fanbase they are trying to appeal to, they're not going to put them on this again. Even if the game was good and if Nintendo is not having any ill feelings against them, I'm sure they're working on another good game.
New development team really just make it sounds like either an internal one made from the ground up (hence why I said japanese), or a new studio/team for this franchise. Aka not Retro, which was confirmed, and not NLG, TN or NST.
Nothing indicates it'll be NLG either.
edit: support studio is another story of course. But that's never the studio put in the spotlight.
Weskerlover
Member
Metroid Prime is one of the best games ever made.....?
I would love to see another Nindies Direct, I want to see dates on Hollow Knight and Owlboy plus some new announcements.
I guess we would see something of the rumoured SNES mini soon as well
"New team" just means "not Retro". We don't have any more detail.
Dark Cloud
Member
Wait...is that why there's no big Switch game in November? Now that I think about it it could be because they're launching a SNES Mini in November. They announced the NES Classic July 14 last year. So, maybe it'll be around that timeframe.
SinCityAssassin
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Skyrim, Sonic Forces, or Xenoblade are some of the likely candidates to fill November.
Has the list been updated to take into account all the projects announvced this E3?
Good-Feel has Yoshi UE4, Sakamoto + Mercury Steam is doing MetroidSR. HAL is most likely doing Kirby.
I wonder who is handling Smash, if anyone? Sakurai again?
Also kinda nice to know there's a high chance Retro might be supervising/overseeing, even though they're not directly developing, Metroid Prime 4. Retro is one of Nintendo's few in-house development teams who really know how to push hardware, maybe aside from Monolithsoft.
Speaking of which, which team is best known for pushing Nintendo hardware limits? That used to be Rare, and maybe to a certain extent Factor5 (even though they're technically 3rd party), but as of late Nintendo hasn't had their very own in-house "NaughtyDog" in terms of pushing graphical fidelity.
Good-Feel has Yoshi UE4, Sakamoto + Mercury Steam is doing MetroidSR. HAL is most likely doing Kirby.
I wonder who is handling Smash, if anyone? Sakurai again?
Also kinda nice to know there's a high chance Retro might be supervising/overseeing, even though they're not directly developing, Metroid Prime 4. Retro is one of Nintendo's few in-house development teams who really know how to push hardware, maybe aside from Monolithsoft.
Speaking of which, which team is best known for pushing Nintendo hardware limits? That used to be Rare, and maybe to a certain extent Factor5 (even though they're technically 3rd party), but as of late Nintendo hasn't had their very own in-house "NaughtyDog" in terms of pushing graphical fidelity.
SinCityAssassin
Member
You could just look at the OP again before asking that.
TheMoon
Member
In no way was I proposing Arkane to be a serious speculation on who's making this.
And feel free to provide an example of them shifting devs between games based on internet hype. I can't think of any.
TheMoon
Member
They have MonolithSoft. And Factor5 qualifies for more than "a certain extent" since their ridiculous achievements on N64 got them the gig to co-design the whole GCN hardware with NTD.
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