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[Ivellios]

People seeing over watch as a step of progress are dilusional imho. I see it just as a good game. This diversity shit in games has to die. Better fight for diversity where it really matters, ie real life. I don't care if I play a white or black dude as long as this is what the developer envisions. But that's only my opinion.

I fully agree with this opnion, that and like one of the guys banned in the Overwatch thread said, the developer creating a character he has planned and has a lore, story and gameplay behind it, among other things, is far better than creating a character just to fill a diversity checklist.

I also dont understand people not considering Ana and Symmetra black woman, and more strange arguing if Lucio and Doomfist are truly black characters.

They are far too demanding, like the game will only be fine if its a an african black woman with afro hair etc etc.

 

[TwiztidElf]

I require a picture of Barnacules.

 

[HagglesworthMD]

Anyone else noticed the rise in people with largely inactive accounts coming to post quips about alt righters or such? Seems to me there is an increase and at least some coordination as if someone if encouraging it over on Reset.

 

[Cunth]

Probably happens from within Discord groups

 

[HagglesworthMD]

Probably happens from within Discord groups

That's true, good point.

 

[Ogbert]

Can you imagine what these peoples kids are going to be like??

Actually, I imagine their kids will be great fun.

Look what they get to rebel against - boring, bigoted, racist, unimaginative, sexless, humourless puritans.

It will be like the 60s all over again!

 

[Yoshi]

Pretty ugly for a goat. Doesn't even have proper horns.

 

[royox]

https://www.resetera.com/posts/14831998/
.

Oh my god

User banned (1 week): trolling in a sensitive topic

Isn't grouping an entire demographic (white) together and saying the entire demographic has earned its reputation inherently racist?

 

[hariseldon]

Actually, I imagine their kids will be great fun.

Look what they get to rebel against - boring, bigoted, racist, unimaginative, sexless, humourless puritans.

It will be like the 60s all over again!

You've just given me hope. Thank you

 

[captainraincoat]

Probably happens from within Discord groups

there are quite a few users who account suicided here

Actually, I imagine their kids will be great fun.

Look what they get to rebel against - boring, bigoted, racist, unimaginative, sexless, humourless puritans.

It will be like the 60s all over again!

Mad men 2050 coming soon

 

[tkscz]

Oh my god

User banned (1 week): trolling in a sensitive topic

"What? This isn't agreeing with the narrative! It must be trolling!"

 

[JORMBO]

"Sensitive topic"

Why are they so sensitive?

 

[Enygger_Tzu]

"Sensitive topic"

Why are they so sensitive?

Resetera fragility.

 

[Yoshi]

"Sensitive topic"

Why are they so sensitive?

Racism is the sensitive topic. Sensitive, because many members are victims of racism, at least in the more general sense of being part of a demographic that suffers from structural racism. For many people who use the intersectionalism definitions it is very offensive to have people discuss these using the traditional definition of sexism and racism, because they feel disrespected then.

 

[Snaps]

Probably happens from within Discord groups

I can confirm that, first-hand. A member from resetera I personally know did show it to me on its computer. I can't say about a political-corectness discord or something along those lines, but I can confirm resetera members have some shaddy "secret" discords they use to report-bomb and harass members they disagree with, especially the one they disagree with. For exemple, they have a "pro-nintendo" discord and it's madness how those people spend their time about organize report-bomb or harass people who criticize Nintendo, especially people who can articulate their thought, I read about how those people were "dangerous" and could "damage Nintendo public image". I didn't believe the lad that did show it to me, until I saw it for myself.

They're much - much - better organized that some people give them credit for, especially when it comes to push their agenda.

 

[Xenon]

Racism is the sensitive topic. Sensitive, because many members are victims of racism, at least in the more general sense of being part of a demographic that suffers from structural racism. For many people who use the intersectionalism definitions it is very offensive to have people discuss these using the traditional definition of sexism and racism, because they feel disrespected then.

Who is doing that in that thread? Most of the problem comes with the label white fragility and the general POC versus white narrative. I got clipped in that thread as well. But it is my fault. In the end if you have a space where your opinions can go unchallenged why would you not want to protect it. Personally I feel it brings down the level of discourse because it allows shit to flow in one direction. In the end that site is just not a place for discussion on those topics if you disagree with their perspective.

 

[Redneckerz]

Probably happens from within Discord groups

Wouldn't be surprising: They can't organize this kind of stuff so accurately on the site itself without getting smidged, so doing it behind the backs of many unaware users is typically the way you would go if you wanted to be a scumbag.

Its good knowing that some Little Helpers are indeed that: Scumbags.

I can confirm that, first-hand. A member from resetera I personally know did show it to me on its computer. I can't say about a political-corectness discord or something along those lines, but I can confirm resetera members have some shaddy "secret" discords they use to report-bomb and harass members they disagree with, especially the one they disagree with. For exemple, they have a "pro-nintendo" discord and it's madness how those people spend their time about organize report-bomb or harass people who criticize Nintendo, especially people who can articulate their thought, I read about how those people were "dangerous" and could "damage Nintendo public image". I didn't believe the lad that did show it to me, until I saw it for myself.

They're much - much - better organized that some people give them credit for, especially when it comes to push their agenda.

I really just want some public (And edited for privacy reasons!) logs pertaining this. I know a thing or two of this myself but visual evidence is ever the better.

Ofcourse they are organized. There is no way you can push certain extreme narratives site-wide and have any harmless user who just wants to participate in the forum but not adherring to this narrative banned if it isn't organized or something. If you are a neutral user on ERA, of which there are many (We should not underestimate this imo), then you really are restricted for alternative thought.

In other news:

• A police officer calmly explaining his POV as a police officer regarding a killing of a security guard by the police is met by a permanent ban. Two guesses which elite Little Helpers wanted him gone.*
• An Elite Little Helper (DigitalOP) loses it and posts a lengthy rant aimed towards his boss/ The Names: No penalties. In case you were wondering if Mod Protection was a thing or not. Bizarrely it even is upheld when the Little Helper is essentially doing an act of mutiny.

Spoiler: *

Enzom21 and DigitalOP

 

[Freedom Gate Co.]

Racism is the sensitive topic. Sensitive, because many members are victims of racism, at least in the more general sense of being part of a demographic that suffers from structural racism. For many people who use the intersectionalism definitions it is very offensive to have people discuss these using the traditional definition of sexism and racism, because they feel disrespected then.

Racism is so sensitive on resetera that they downplay the struggles of black people but will give money to every other group but blacks and won't support any black movement that is funded by blacks but only by diverse groups.

Oh and don't get me started in the Africa threads LGBT promotion is Africa is priority above food and water. Ghana deserves their funding cuts and their sanctions and would save more people if they were diverse because blah blah blah.

I hope I don't meet one of these guys on the street I might flip.

 

[Cunth]

Racism is the sensitive topic. Sensitive, because many members are victims of racism, at least in the more general sense of being part of a demographic that suffers from structural racism. For many people who use the intersectionalism definitions it is very offensive to have people discuss these using the traditional definition of sexism and racism, because they feel disrespected then.

Race itself is a sensitive topic, and for them it is even more so because they believe that discussion of race and society in and of itself is offensive

 

[Yoshi]

Racism is so sensitive on resetera that they downplay the struggles of black people but will give money to every other group but blacks and won't support any black movement that is funded by blacks but only by diverse groups.

Oh and don't get me started in the Africa threads LGBT promotion is Africa is priority above food and water. Ghana deserves their funding cuts and their sanctions and would save more people if they were diverse because blah blah blah.

I hope I don't meet one of these guys on the street I might flip.

Do you have any examples of this? I experienced Resetera as pretty strict in matters of ethnicity. E.g. saying that one does not like the usage of the word "nigg(er/a)" in general, quickly nets you a ban on "tone policing reclaimed language" and stating that reciting a (non-racist) song that contains the word "nigga" while being white is not an expression of racism definitely leads to a ban. Similarly, questioning whether individual instances of a black person e.g. not getting a certain position or a white person receiving a certain legal verdict are (necessarily) and expression of strucutral racism / white privilege is a good recipe for netting a ban. So I am surprised to hear this complaint, especially on GAF, where such topics are moderated pretty leniently recently. Of course, racism is not as heavily moderated as transgender issues, but I the restrictiveness on that topic is pretty astounding anyway.

 

[Papa]

Wouldn't be surprising: They can't organize this kind of stuff so accurately on the site itself without getting smidged, so doing it behind the backs of many unaware users is typically the way you would go if you wanted to be a scumbag.

Its good knowing that some Little Helpers are indeed that: Scumbags.


I really just want some public (And edited for privacy reasons!) logs pertaining this. I know a thing or two of this myself but visual evidence is ever the better.

Ofcourse they are organized. There is no way you can push certain extreme narratives site-wide and have any harmless user who just wants to participate in the forum but not adherring to this narrative banned if it isn't organized or something. If you are a neutral user on ERA, of which there are many (We should not underestimate this imo), then you really are restricted for alternative thought.

In other news:

• A police officer calmly explaining his POV as a police officer regarding a killing of a security guard by the police is met by a permanent ban. Two guesses which elite Little Helpers wanted him gone.*
• An Elite Little Helper (DigitalOP) loses it and posts a lengthy rant aimed towards his boss/ The Names: No penalties. In case you were wondering if Mod Protection was a thing or not. Bizarrely it even is upheld when the Little Helper is essentially doing an act of mutiny.

Spoiler: *

Enzom21 and DigitalOP

Well that first guy committed two cardinal sins:

1. Admitted to being a police officer.
2. Had an American flag in his avatar.

That DigitalOp rant is hilarious. The dude is out of his mind. It's even more hilarious that the mods agreed with his temper tantrum and banned everyone on his list.

 

[Snaps]

Wouldn't be surprising: They can't organize this kind of stuff so accurately on the site itself without getting smidged, so doing it behind the backs of many unaware users is typically the way you would go if you wanted to be a scumbag.
[/spoiler]

I don't think anyone here would be interested in troubled pro-Nintendo manchild organizing report-raid on discord or planning harassing campain against other members to pursue their pro-Nintendo agenda.

However, I think EviLore and the rest of this forum would be much more interested by some informations about how the fall of Neogaf was orchestrated from the start by some gaf members. If you seriousely think this forum demise was because of the "incident", you couldn't be more wrong. At least, from what I saw and read from myself, it wasn't. It was planned for months actually, around the launch of the Nintendo Switch (2017, march I think ?). It's clear that the incident did convince a lot of people to move from Neogaf, but the very origin of the incident wasn't innocent and there was another clear goal behind it. The incident and media outlet outrage was just the perfect opportunity "they" were waiting for.

EviLore I won't lie, I don't like you very much and I think Neogaf was proper bullshit back then, but I still think you deserve some bits of the truth I know. You ate a lot of shit for a ridiculous purpose and I'm sure you'll be surprised to know it wasn't about a girl or about political agenda, it was much more stupid than this. You spent month figuring that besada did work against you, but everyone could have said you that form the start. If you want more informations, just hit me a PM and I'll clear some things up. It will be up to you to share the informations I'll give to you with the rest of internet, if you judge those reliable.

 

[Redneckerz]

I don't think anyone here would be interested in troubled pro-Nintendo manchild organizing report-raid on discord or planning harassing campain against other members to pursue their pro-Nintendo agenda.

However, I think EviLore and the rest of this forum would be much more interested by some informations about how the fall of Neogaf was orchestrated from the start by some gaf members. If you seriousely think this forum demise was because of the "incident", you couldn't be more wrong. At least, from what I saw and read from myself, it wasn't. It was planned for months actually, around the launch of the Nintendo Switch (2017, march I think ?). It's clear that the incident did convince a lot of people to move from Neogaf, but the very origin of the incident wasn't innocent and there was another clear goal behind it. The incident and media outlet outrage was just the perfect opportunity "they" were waiting for.

EviLore I won't lie, I don't like you very much and I think Neogaf was proper bullshit back then, but I still think you deserve some bits of the truth I know. You ate a lot of shit for a ridiculous purpose and I'm sure you'll be surprised to know it wasn't about a girl or about political agenda, it was much more stupid than this. You spent month figuring that besada did work against you, but everyone could have said you that form the start. If you want more informations, just hit me a PM and I'll clear some things up. It will be up to you to share the informations I'll give to you with the rest of internet, if you judge those reliable.

I know of several bucket drops that ultimately led to the incident, but sure, show him the works and we shall see what comes of it.

Personally, the past is not prologue. The present is our dialogue.

 

[JordanN]

Watching the left eat their own is always hilarious.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/mi...-domestic-violence.81036/page-6#post-14989804

They want a strong candidate, but when that candidate turns out to be white, they start screeching. Even ignoring that Avenatti is a douchebag, it's always telling when SJW's go for skin color first, and controversy later.


And then comes the projection.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/mi...-domestic-violence.81036/page-5#post-14989603

Democrats can NEVER abuse women. Isn't that right, Bill Clinton?


....Right?

 

[SaviourMK2]

Watching the left eat their own is always hilarious.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/mi...-domestic-violence.81036/page-6#post-14989804

They want a strong candidate, but when that candidate turns out to be white, they start screeching. Even ignoring that Avenatti is a douchebag, it's always telling when SJW's go for skin color first, and controversy later.


And then comes the projection.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/mi...-domestic-violence.81036/page-5#post-14989603

Democrats can NEVER abuse women. Isn't that right, Bill Clinton?


....Right?

Was it proven if Bill/Monica relationship was one sided/rape or was it consensual. Legit curious.

 

[Nobody_Important]

Oh by the way not sure if it was mentioned, but Cerium was able to get the Twitter block lifted. Their links are no longer blocked.

 

[Dr. Claus]

Oh by the way not sure if it was mentioned, but Cerium was able to get the Twitter block lifted. Their links are no longer blocked.

Give it a few days. The site puts forth enough hateful shit that it will get banned again, and for good reason.

 

[Yoshi]

Give it a few days. The site puts forth enough hateful shit that it will get banned again, and for good reason.

That it was lifted is indicative of it being a result of an automatic process and not editorial decisions on Twitter's side. Also considering much more harmful groups and people, e.g. white supremacists, can tweet freely, I doubt that the minor issues with Resetera would play any role for Twitter.

 

[JordanN]

Another unhinged nutcase. Guess they're really scared of losing their twitter links.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-trump-pissed-at-damn-near-everyone.81026/page-7#post-14990256

 

[Cunth]

That it was lifted is indicative of it being a result of an automatic process and not editorial decisions on Twitter's side. Also considering much more harmful groups and people, e.g. white supremacists, can tweet freely, I doubt that the minor issues with Resetera would play any role for Twitter.

I read that the site was put on a spam list by a troll that companies and isps use to filter sites. Dont know if that's true or not

 

[EviLore]

EviLore I won't lie, I don't like you very much

BANNED



Moving along to the substance of your post, I mean, there are a bunch of different parties I'm well aware had contributing influences across the same general alignment of intended outcome (character assassinate me, blow up neogaf, in some cases an aim at a power play as well, certainly). There had been coordinated, ongoing efforts to that end for several years prior to the jackpot. It was also not months of strenuous contemplation to discern obvious foul play on Besada's part. There's a different threshold for what I'm willing to talk about publicly, especially as it concerns directly implicating someone.

PM me whatever you'd like and it'll be taken under advisement as appropriate. Thanks.

 

[Papa]

Another unhinged nutcase. Guess they're really scared of losing their twitter links.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-trump-pissed-at-damn-near-everyone.81026/page-7#post-14990256

Notice the passive aggressive lower case trump? These fools are pathetic

 

[Cunth]

Whatever happened to Stumpokapow? Was he part of the exodus?

 

[Yoshi]

Notice the passive aggressive lower case trump? These fools are pathetic

And the lower case "there" and "if" are clear dog whistles for black supremacists!

 

[hariseldon]

Notice the passive aggressive lower case trump? These fools are pathetic

Think you might be reading a bit too much into that - he doesn't seem to bother capitalising the start of sentences except the very last one.

 

[Papa]

And the lower case "there" and "if" are clear dog whistles for black supremacists!

Hey bro that snark looks awful on you.

 

[Papa]

Think you might be reading a bit too much into that - he doesn't seem to bother capitalising the start of sentences except the very last one.

There's only one other sentence that he didn't capitalize and three instances of beginning a sentence with a lower case trump. Maybe I am reading too much into it, but I don't think so.

 

[Skyn3t]

Are Kotaku and Jason Schreier respected on Ree?

 

[Yoshi]

There's only one other sentence that he didn't capitalize and three instances of beginning a sentence with a lower case trump. Maybe I am reading too much into it, but I don't think so.

Two. Misread one comma as a period.

Are Kotaku and Jason Schreier respected on Ree?

Yes.

 

[Skyn3t]

Welp, a nice community they have there. Noone said ever

 

[Papa]

Welp, a nice community they have there. Noone said ever

Yoshi did

 

[Yoshi]

Yoshi did

As in every (reasonably random) large group of people, you have a few "stinkers", but there are many great people at Resetera as well and good discussions to be had, I see no reason to denounce them just on the basis that there are some bad apples among the frequent posters, a strict moderation and liking a sensationalist news outlet that still offers quite a couple of interesting in-depth reports at times.

 

[Skyn3t]

For my understanding of Ree, writing something there and violating their Bushido codex is like playing Minesweeper on Hard. Not a lot of fun TBH.l

 

[hariseldon]

As in every (reasonably random) large group of people, you have a few "stinkers", but there are many great people at Resetera as well and good discussions to be had, I see no reason to denounce them just on the basis that there are some bad apples among the frequent posters, a strict moderation and liking a sensationalist news outlet that still offers quite a couple of interesting in-depth reports at times.

I would agree that like any group there are sane people there, likely just keeping their heads down and staying away from the mad stuff. The problem is that the site is run by mad people, so those voices of sanity are suppressed.

 

[SirKicksalot]

Another unhinged nutcase. Guess they're really scared of losing their twitter links.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnn-trump-pissed-at-damn-near-everyone.81026/page-7#post-14990256

The language in that thread is crazy.
It made wonder: what does Trump actually do?
As a casual observer all I noticed it that he's a pretty funny guy who got into a half-assed trade war with China and send some dudes to the border to do nothing. Also that business with travel restrictions that went nowhere.
So what is he actually doing? The way Reeee reeees about him you'd think they're rounding up the blacks and gays and building the Game of Thrones wall at the border.

 

[farmerboy]

I don't think anyone here would be interested in troubled pro-Nintendo manchild organizing report-raid on discord or planning harassing campain against other members to pursue their pro-Nintendo agenda.

However, I think EviLore and the rest of this forum would be much more interested by some informations about how the fall of Neogaf was orchestrated from the start by some gaf members. If you seriousely think this forum demise was because of the "incident", you couldn't be more wrong. At least, from what I saw and read from myself, it wasn't. It was planned for months actually, around the launch of the Nintendo Switch (2017, march I think ?). It's clear that the incident did convince a lot of people to move from Neogaf, but the very origin of the incident wasn't innocent and there was another clear goal behind it. The incident and media outlet outrage was just the perfect opportunity "they" were waiting for.

EviLore I won't lie, I don't like you very much and I think Neogaf was proper bullshit back then, but I still think you deserve some bits of the truth I know. You ate a lot of shit for a ridiculous purpose and I'm sure you'll be surprised to know it wasn't about a girl or about political agenda, it was much more stupid than this. You spent month figuring that besada did work against you, but everyone could have said you that form the start. If you want more informations, just hit me a PM and I'll clear some things up. It will be up to you to share the informations I'll give to you with the rest of internet, if you judge those reliable.

Blind Freddy could see there was something else going on. Just the fact that they got Reset up and running so quickly shows that it was a planned exodus.

 

[Ivellios]

As in every (reasonably random) large group of people, you have a few "stinkers", but there are many great people at Resetera as well and good discussions to be had, I see no reason to denounce them just on the basis that there are some bad apples among the frequent posters, a strict moderation and liking a sensationalist news outlet that still offers quite a couple of interesting in-depth reports at times.

You are right there are many good people there, but i disagree that there is great discussion.

Unless it is a light gamig thread or joke off Topic, there is no discussion to be had, only a one sided conversation where the other side is dogpiled and banned

 

[royox]

but there are many great people at Resetera as well and good discussions to be had

I don't doubt for a second there's great people there, what I doubt is that you can have any sort of "good discussion" in a place where posting is like walking in a mine field.

Wanna try some "videogame related" discussions on era? Open a thread about the idea of Nintendo giving the option of chosing Female Link on the next zelda or the next Pokémon having more options than "Boy and Girl". Let's see how many users have the eggs to post anything against of what the hivemind thinks.

 

[Ogbert]

The Avenatti thread is, as expected, a sight to behold.

Not so much a case of #believeallwomen, rather #believeOURwomen.

 

[Papa]

For my understanding of Ree, writing something there and violating their Bushido codex is like playing Minesweeper on Hard. Not a lot of fun TBH.l

You can change your name and your avatar but your tag will follow you for the rest of your days.

Wtf is that anyway? A Dickachu?