Rightisright
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Dev kits are always more powerful than the consoles are. Typically they have more RAM and faster clocks.
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Allow me to play devil's advocate, technically(Through DNA) 70% of the individuals in Puerto Rico are of Caucasian descent mainly so don't worry if your white he didn't leave ya out
Uh...wrong thread and maybe wrong forum
Ovech-King
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ethomaz
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Trying? PS5 is past 10TFs but that will look like surprise for some due I have no ideia about.
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BattleScar
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Enabling all the CU's on the chip is not exactly out of the realms of possibility. TSMC's N7 has shockingly great yields (0.09 defects/cm2 for the Mobile variant and estimated 0.06 defects/cm2 for HPC). If PS5 is Oberon and Oberon is ~320mm2, the fully functioning chip yield will be 75% if its 0.09 defects/cm2 and as high as 83% if its 0.06 defects/cm2. Add to the fact that not all defects will be critical so usable chips may well be higher than that...
Yes, their acceptance criteria would need to change, but if they're desperate to crank out that little extra performance, its not exactly impossible.
Yes, their acceptance criteria would need to change, but if they're desperate to crank out that little extra performance, its not exactly impossible.
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The PM is probably about this.
AMD Navi 12 spotted with 36 Compute Units - VideoCardz.com
AMD Navi 12 has made its first public appearance through the CompuBench website. AMD Navi 12 features 36 CUs? The GFX1011 GPU has been discovered by Komachi in the CompuBench benchmark database. We know that GFX1011 is Navi 12 GPU thanks to a previous leak. This codename refers to Navi12 and...
videocardz.com
Its not impossible but its a silly move, 2.0Ghz will draw an insane amount power and also produce an insane amount of heat. The yields for the chips themselves will likely be good but I don't think the number that actually can reach 2.0Ghz will be that high.
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TeamGhobad
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will games look this good nexgen?
Reindeer
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Nice Ray Tracing effects!! Was that powered by the RTX Titan? Pretty sure it was rendered offline as well.
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TeamGhobad
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its actually real life but it looked generated.
Reindeer
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I know
, was just poking fun. I think I've actually come that same video on YouTube a while ago.
TLZ
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If you look under PCI ID/Driver ID for 69B0 and 7360. You'll see: Navi 12, GFX1011 and RDNA 1 / GCN 1.5.1 / RX5000 series.
TeamGhobad
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I know
first time i saw it i thought it was computer generated i was like wholly moly thats some nice graphics, but i think we are about 2 gens away from that. we need about 50 tflops for that.
Reindeer
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On the serious note, I think we'll get graphics that will look somewhat better than what Nvidia showed in that Infiltrator demo a while back. Games like Ghost of Tshushima, Last of Us 2 and FF7 are really pushing outdated hardware from 7 years ago to levels I never thought were possible, can only imagine what the top devs will do with new consoles.
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TLZ
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Hmm Navi 12, 36 CU, 1.114ghz: 5.2tf.The PM is probably about this.
AMD Navi 12 spotted with 36 Compute Units - VideoCardz.com
AMD Navi 12 has made its first public appearance through the CompuBench website. AMD Navi 12 features 36 CUs? The GFX1011 GPU has been discovered by Komachi in the CompuBench benchmark database. We know that GFX1011 is Navi 12 GPU thanks to a previous leak. This codename refers to Navi12 and...
IF this was related to a next gen console, maybe Lockhart? Or a Switch home console (rumor)?
Lunatic_Gamer
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I know wccftech is mostly garbage with their endless clickbait articles but this gave me a chuckle. 
wccftech.com
Jonathan Blow: PS5 Is Pretty Good; I'm Excited About Some Next-Gen Consoles, Not All of Them
Jonathan Blow, creator of The Witness, said the PS5 is 'pretty good' and he's excited about some next-gen consoles, rather than all of them.
wccftech.com
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Reindeer
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So a guy who suffered a "mildly unpleasant" experience with Microsoft is throwing shade at Microsoft? Color me surprised.I know wccftech is garbage for the most part with their endless clickbait articles but this gave me a chuckle.
Jonathan Blow: PS5 Is Pretty Good; I'm Excited About Some Next-Gen Consoles, Not All of Them
Jonathan Blow, creator of The Witness, said the PS5 is 'pretty good' and he's excited about some next-gen consoles, rather than all of them.
thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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It's one thing if fanboys and console warriors on forums do it, but these dudes are supposed to be professionals. They're supposed to be above that stuff and set a standard for behavior. This ain't it, chief.
LordOfChaos
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Amazing graphics, but the gameplay of Outside could use some work. This fall damage is from way too short a height too.
ZywyPL
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I was thinking about it the other day - most PC folks run quad-core CPUs, around 4-6TF GPUs, HDD, and 4K on PC almost doesn't exist, and yet, (most likely) the same people claim that a 9TF PS5 with 8C CPU, SSD and 4K out of the box would be "underpowered" and hold back the games. Logic has been raped so many times in the past weeks it's not even funny.
iamvin22
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Yup. There's a lot of items missing or just not present. Still looks good though
Reindeer
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Even at 9 tflops (assuming it is that) it will be a considerably bigger jump from base consoles than what current gen consoles were over PS3/360. This is on a GPU side alone, there's also a huge jump in CPU and storage tech. People just love to complain. Most of the noise on the PC side is made by the Elitists who represent less than 10% of the PC market.
Joho79
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Lmao he got one of those smug faces from that South Park episode. Looks like he enjoys his own farts
Well everybody enjoys their own farts, don't they?
Agnostic2020
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Haha imo its him . The minute i read that post i started asking him what he thinks few pages back. He thinks ps5 and xsx are close like one is 11 tf and ine is 12 tf with the edge to xbox but any clock chnage can make the other ine pull ahead . He also beleives they wont be same price.I can only think of @CameFromNearFuture (for obvious reasons) and you (tiny suspicions)
Agnostic2020
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Guys why do you think upto now 2 developers are speaking against xsx ? First it was randy pitchford who was not impressed then yesterday jonathan blow is implying he is not impressed by it . Then we have plethora of devs talk positive abour ps5 and ssd and dont make single mention of xsx.
Whats happening ? What are we missing ? Are they pissed off about lockhart?
Whats happening ? What are we missing ? Are they pissed off about lockhart?
Nickolaidas
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Racer!
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Probably. But the commitment MS has made to have every game going forward run on Xbox one is probably even more damaging. Expect to see a lot of quantity over quality on the MS side. My belief is consumers will see right through that, and will reward those willing to innovate and push forward. Will be exciting to see which strategy pays off.
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DJ12
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I guess they are both butt hurt by the way ms treated them / just opinionated idiots with an axe to grind or they are just telling it how it is. Depends which narrative you are following I guess.
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Reindeer
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I'm sure that won't last long as they already announced Hellblade 2 being exclusive to next gen platforms. Microsoft is very inconsistent with their messaging so they will say certain things to appease their fans only to change their minds short while later.
KURDISTAN YPG
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OK fellas 1 question! ( im noob at tech stuff and playstation only player)
the 9 teraflop ps5 and 36 cu ( i dont care about what it does )
but in this case
The VR part of playstation, does it get any improvement?
the 9 teraflop ps5 and 36 cu ( i dont care about what it does )
but in this case
The VR part of playstation, does it get any improvement?
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TLZ
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He's only human man.
TLZ
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We haven't heard anything psvr 2 related yet. I'm hoping something about it is revealed or shown at CES.
Oddspeak
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Pretty impressive how a single web page rips apart so much ridiculous rhetoric.
DJ12
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It will be more than his enough to do 1080p at 60 FPS per eye at full detail levels in my opinion. This will be half the pixels of 4k so more than possible.
Don't get too caught up on the flops.
There's been no mention of a new vr kit as far as I'm aware so I guess the current hardware will work going forwards for a good while
TBiddy
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Was that confirmed by Microsoft?
DJ12
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All doable on pc right now (excluding PS4 obviously) so I see no reason why this won't be the case.
Wish I had kept some more discs.
Hopefully games brought from the store for PS3 will be available for download, that would be awesome.
Reindeer
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Yes.
Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 Xbox and PC Exclusivity Confirmed
Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 Xbox and PC versions are a given, but now it has been confirmed that it will only be on those two platforms.
www.siliconera.com
it_wasn't_me
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Yes.
Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 Xbox and PC Exclusivity Confirmed
Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 Xbox and PC versions are a given, but now it has been confirmed that it will only be on those two platforms.
So, multiplatform.
TBiddy
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Yes.
Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 Xbox and PC Exclusivity Confirmed
Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 Xbox and PC versions are a given, but now it has been confirmed that it will only be on those two platforms.
This came after a fan asked him on Twitter about Senua's Saga: Hellblade II exclusivity. Greenberg said, "It's being made exclusively for Xbox and PC."
I interpret that as they still haven't decided if they want to release on current-gen or only on next-gen.
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Reindeer
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If by multiplatform you mean Xbox and PC then yes. Greenberg confirmed that it's only coming to Xbox and PC. The game was officially revealed as Series X title and PC was mentioned by Greenberg afterward. Microsoft did not mention that it will be coming to current gen Xbox consoles.
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Gudji
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Yes.
Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 Xbox and PC Exclusivity Confirmed
Senua's Saga: Hellblade 2 Xbox and PC versions are a given, but now it has been confirmed that it will only be on those two platforms.
Errrr not really.
Reindeer
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I thought Greenberg saying Xbox could just be him directly wording his response to how the question was asked. Didn't Microsoft also confirm that Series X will just be called Xbox? So far the only two platforms it's definitely been confirmed for are Series X and PC. Maybe I'm wrong.
TeamGhobad
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braid on live arcade made hm famous.
CyberPanda
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Reindeer
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Yes it did, but he also threw shade at Microsoft before launching The Witness on PS4 first by implying that he had "mildly unpleasant experiences" with them.
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