TeamGhobad
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was it their update policies? same thing the rampage city guy was butthurt over...talk about biting the hand that feeds them.
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was it their update policies? same thing the rampage city guy was butthurt over...talk about biting the hand that feeds them.
Reindeer
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He also implied that some of his friends had "massively negative experiences" with Microsoft. What he was talking about is not known, but it could be something to do with XBLA like you said.
Jonathan Blow Talks "Massively Negative Experiences" on Xbox, Sony Being "Really Tremendous" and Crazy New Ideas - PlayStation LifeStyle
Fight!
www.playstationlifestyle.net
TeamGhobad
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WTF!!!?!?!?!?!??!?!
WTF!!!?!?!?!?!??!?!
WTF!!!?!?!?!?!??!?!
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TeamGhobad
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It seems RDNA2 cards were not ready back when the SoCs were being engineered and MS and Sony had the create their own HW RT and ducktape it to RDNA 1.0 GPUs. Sad News.
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Reindeer
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Yeah, that was posted here a while ago.
Agnostic2020
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He is good for MS stuff but he has explicitly mentioned that he has no idea about ps5 and he just guesses.
Psyrgery ES
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I recall he was a bit pissed off at Xbox One only having 5gbs out of 8gbs of ram for games because the OS and snap modes took 3gbs of ram.
It was later revealed that ps4 wouldnt have much more free ram available (I believe it was 5,5gb and I believe at first it only had 5gbs just like the Xone) but he didnt comment on it.
He looks a bit biased towards Sony but I believe theres more to it than what I comment here
BTW Hapoy New Year everybody!
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TeamGhobad
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one of the insiders that would drip info, i wouldn't say he's 100% but its hard to know cause you can only verify after the full reveal.
Mass Shift
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We could be missing one possibility. Neither MS or Sony are going with AMD off-the-shelf RT. Their solutions could be unique to their platforms. I for one don't find it hard to see MS co-engineering DXR based Cores for their RT.
TeamGhobad
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but still missing the IPC uplift...
Rightisright
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No way we get near that infiltrators UE4 demo. Come back when we are at 50tflops and rull Ray tracing.
Nickolaidas
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Awesome if true.
I seriously hope this will lead to many old PS1-PS3 titles become available for purchase on PS Store.
pawel86ck
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Why people should believe some insider, when Phil Spencer himself has said XSX is using next gen RDNA. If you look at AMD chart, next gen RDNA is a new architecture that will use HW RT. First gen Navi is just refered as RDNA.
Phil Spencer must know the difference between RDNA and next gen RDNA
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Rightisright
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Blow hates MS, and I doubt he is even going to bring his next game out on Xbox. Anyway, even if both consoles came out with threadripper CPUs, 32 gig RAM and 20tflop GPUs, his games would still look they could be done on a Sega Saturn.
And Pitchfork wasnt saying anything about the Xbox.
Reindeer
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50 Tflops? With that kind of power we'll be running photorealistic graphics, which the Infiltrator is some ways of. 1080TI gets over 80FPS on that demo at 1440p. Have a look at FF7 leaked Demo and what is possible on PS4 and then tell me we can't run those graphics with around 7-8X more power.
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Rightisright
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Wait until it's playable and needs full AI, and on the fly rendering. It isnt just making the polygon frame and putting pretty textures that take up power.
ANIMAL1975
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So guys, no one has yet found
Mod of War: Remastered
anonymous insider?
Mod of War: Remastered
anonymous insider?
Aceofspades
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He knows nothing about PS5 yet he claim that Xbox will have advantages. Typically X fanboy who begs for attention on Twitter.
Rightisright
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I think they will use parts of RDNA 2 such as Ray tracing and VRS, but not all the features. For instance neither will be on the 7nm+, which RDNA 2 is on.Why people should believe some insider, when Phil Spencer himself has said XSX is using next gen RDNA. If you look at AMD chart, next gen RDNA is a new architecture that will use HW RT. First gen Navi is just refered as RDNA.
Phil Spencer must know the difference between RDNA and next gen RDNA
Sony and MS GPUs are most likely RDNA 1.5.
Reindeer
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I get that, but I'm really seeing nothing there can't be done. Hellblade 2 looks on par with Infiltrator and in some ways better and that's in engine and target for the game.
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Coulomb_Barrier
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I think, from credible rumours, XBSeX will target 25fps @ 1440p with no ray tracing whilst PS5 hits 30fps @ 4K with all the RT bells and whistles on.
Reindeer
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25fps at 1440p? You not being serious, are you?
TBiddy
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Heh. I did wonder about that post you're quoting, if it was really serious, or was meant as a joke. I opted for the latter, since well.. noone can write that with a straight face.
Agnostic2020
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So guys, no one has yet found
TLZ
and I believe it’s
HeisenbergFX4
Rightisright
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RDR2 has the best graphics of this gen, and it's still ALONG way away from the infiltator level graphics.
TLZ
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For a second there I thought I clicked the wrong link haha. Thought wtf I clicked on PS5 link not Wutang
and what were his predictions
Reindeer
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And it was built for machines that have 8x less power than next gen consoles.
TBiddy
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You know what I'm really excited about? How the PS5 looks. The XSX is a radical step away from how consoles have looked and it's looking like that only because of thermals (most likely). The PS5 will have the same issues with thermals and thus Sony must come up with just as an intriguing hardware design.
I'm most likely gonna stay in the MS ecosystem, but I'm still very interested in seeing how similar or different the designs of the consoles will be.
I'm most likely gonna stay in the MS ecosystem, but I'm still very interested in seeing how similar or different the designs of the consoles will be.
Agnostic2020
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One around 11 and other around 12 with edge to Xbox . Up locking can change who is leading and they won’t be priced the same
Aceofspades
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What MS has done is simply safe and Lazy design. There are gaming laptops that packs more grunt while being slim and quiet. I fucking laugh everytime someone say that XsX cannot be designed other way because of its power
N7+ is the most likely node since AMD are building next gen rDNA and zen3 on it. They already have experience with the libraries so it makes sense for Sony and MS to leverage that experience and have their SoCs designed for that node.
It is not like AMD have an off the shelf product already designed for N7 and n7p that MS and Sony could scale up to their needs as Renoir as zen2 + Vega.
The extra density and power savings of N7+ would also be appealling to the console makers.
TBiddy
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What MS has done is simply safe and Lazy design. There are gaming laptops that packs more grunt while being slim and quiet. I fucking laugh everytime someone say that XsX cannot be designed other way because of its power
Please do tell - how much experience do you have designing hardware? Which gaming laptops are both more powerful and just as quiet the XB1X, under full load?
thelastword
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The way they will make money is to put lots of PS1, PS2 and PS3 games on the store digitally...…...They already have lots of PS1 games and some PS2 games, they just have to increase those numbers...….PS3 did have some games which are not available digitally, so they have to work on that as well......Folklore, GT6 is off the digital store and quite a few titles....
The patents for introducing trophies,new textures etc are plausible.....It's been said that's how the parappa remaster works.....
CyberPanda
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He’s apparently got a good track record on Reeeee
Aceofspades
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Asus ROG Zephyrus S GX701
CPU: Intel Core i7 | Graphics: Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 – GeForce GTX 2080 Max-Q (8GB GDDR6 VRAM) | RAM: 8GB – 24GB | Screen: 17.3-inch FHD (1,920 x 1,080) 144Hz panel with G-Sync
this is one of tens of laptops I found.
another one which is even more powerful than the last:
Alienware Area-51m
CPU: Intel Core i7-9700 – i9-9900K | Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 – 2080 | RAM: 16GB – 64GB | Screen: 17.3" FHD (1920 x 1080) 60Hz Anti-Glare IPS – 144Hz IPS NVIDIA G-SYNC | Storage: 1TB SSHD – 2TB RAID0 SSDs + 1TB SSHD
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Just because its not RDNA2 does not mean its not using the raytracing from RDNA2. In the GitHub leaks the block names for the raytracing in Arden match the AMD raytracing patent so i fairly confident (but not 100%) that its either using the raytracing from RDNA2 or a precursor.
Reindeer
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How much are those laptops again?
chemical boy
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Let no one forget that what Hellblade showed was at 3840x1608 and 24fps
Aceofspades
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How much are those laptops again?
Doesn't matter, my point was that Xbox can easily be smaller and even quiter. Are you telling me that those Laptops costing that much simply because of its cooling? A similar PC specced tower would cost around the same, so my point still stands
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TeamGhobad
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he said nexgen rdna not nexgen OF rdna. there is a difference.
Reindeer
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I know
, but since we are talking about laptops the price isn't exactly irrelevant.
Reindeer
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That doesn't mean anything, the game won't be targeting 24fps. I'm fine with it running in 1600p if it looks that good.
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Lets not forget it wasn't even running on the console.
TLZ
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Just finished watching. I really hope it's all true.
TeamGhobad
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The most interesting is this statement but he deleted it
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Rightisright
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I'm sure they would like to use it, but I don't think they. They will move to it on their revision models.
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