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[Malcolm9]

I am a Sony fanboy, and HZD was an 8/10 at best, gorgeous graphics, lovely world and lore, okay story, average gameplay.

Average gameplay, are you high? The combat alone was fantastic with the variety of options you have to take the dinsoaur enemies down.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Sony hype too heavy for Steam?

 

[INC]

Average gameplay, are you high? The combat alone was fantastic with the variety of options you have to take the dinsoaur enemies down.

yeh its awesome, only open world game that i never fast travelled whilst playing the story, i did at the end to get the play trophy

 

[Lanrutcon]

VFXVeteran was mostly bashed for his mustard-race statements like 'HZD on the PC could look better than HZD2 on the PS5'.

Nah. The thread is still there to go read through. People gave him grief because they're goddamn children.

 

[octiny]

Sorry guys. I was ridiculed, disrespected, flamed, etc.. for being a "fake" insider who had an agenda. I told myself I wouldn't leak on these boards anymore. You guys will have to wait for the official news. And there are more exclusives coming. Don't fall for that "excuse" as to why they are developing on the PC. If you go back and look at all of my past posts, you will see a pattern as well as plenty of clues as to what's coming on the horizon.

Good shit man

 

[CatLady]

It can't be salt if you baited him into posting that. Come on, this isn't everyone's first forum rodeo.

I know but it's so easy.

 

[EverydayBeast]

Console to PC and PC to consoles versions happen all the time, the game isn't available yet on PC so I recommend it to anyone looking for a solid third person action adventure game on PS4.

 

[Hawks Eclipse]

Personally I'm looking forward to reading the Steam reviews for HZD in the future when things have settled down, so maybe 6-12 months after its release.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

...you completely missed the joke. You said you are "interesting in Gravity Rush", which would imply you are in the game. (what you want to use is "interested in")

Sorry . I was in Street whe. I write this message.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Im not a pc guy but thats probably not that farfetched. Consoles are always playing catch up to pc specs.

I bet the next gen specs would probably be surpassed by the time the consoles release compared to pc.

It is far fetched. There will be a lot of effects and engine refinements that will not be in this PS4 port, like there will be for the next evolution of their engine for the sequel.

Most of the updates for HZD on the PC like framerate and resolution will probably make their way to the PS5 as well, which is a win/win all around.

 

[Shiken]

I said it for XBox, it applies to Sony as well. PC ports have no notable impact on console sales or their console exclusive software. Most people who play on consoles do not bother with PC, and the only thing this does is broaden the audience. The only people who claim otherwise are those who do stupid list wars and try to use them as a crutch to make one list shorter than the other (which just makes them look desperate ironically).

It is even less of an impact in the case of HZD, as Sony and MS game sales tend to be front loaded till they hit bargain bin prices. At this point, anyone who would have bought the game on PS4 already has.

 

[R6Rider]

Average gameplay, are you high? The combat alone was fantastic with the variety of options you have to take the dinsoaur enemies down.

The combat wasn't really that good. It really suffers when fighting human enemies or using the staff/spear thing in general. Plus enemies having specific weak points meant that each time you fought them the fight went exactly the same way most of the time.

Found myself just rushing through the second half to finish the game and move on, as I found the story at least somewhat interesting enough to keep me going. Add onto this boring side-quest, unnecessary crafting system, and boring exploration.

But this is just my opinion and that was theirs. No need to pull the "are you high?!" card out.

 

[sendit]

Sony is dipping their toes. Brace yourself, fanboys. According to the logic around these parts, HZD is no longer an exclusive.

Agreed. After three years, the PS4 will no longer be the best place to play HZD. Another console exclusive lost to a superior platform. I now know what it feels to be an exclusive Xbox fan.

 

[Psykodad]

I know but it's so easy.

This is true, but the game isn't over yet.

 

[Lux R7]

good news!

 

[TheStruggler]

dumb way to devalue your brand, hope this is not a frequent thing to happen.

 

[ShadowWolf712]

What if he mistook the story release for the multiplayer version?

Don't think GoT has an MP version.

 

[Dargor]

If there isnt a catch I'll never again have to buy a console nor pay ps+, so thank you Sony for making my life easier!

If there is a catch then I'll never buy any of your consoles again nor any of your games, aint gonna gift no one who tries to pull one over me.

 

[Flick]

Sorry guys. I was ridiculed, disrespected, flamed, etc.. for being a "fake" insider who had an agenda. I told myself I wouldn't leak on these boards anymore. You guys will have to wait for the official news. And there are more exclusives coming. Don't fall for that "excuse" as to why they are developing on the PC. If you go back and look at all of my past posts, you will see a pattern as well as plenty of clues as to what's coming on the horizon.

Thanks! Totally understandable, the Sony defense force is so strong here. I would do the same. But thanks for giving us the info!

 

[INC]

dumb way to devalue your brand, hope this is not a frequent thing to happen.

didnt devalue xbox tho................oh wait

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Detroit, Dreams, Death Stranding and of course HZD so far.

And MLB baseball in 2021 for "Multiple platforms".

don't be surprised if it's a day one game on Xbox and PC. Maybe Switch too. Unless they give Sony a break and do a staggered ship date.

you can tell it wasn't something that they wanted to be promoted, but Sony didn't want to say one word about it because they are console warred. The communication came from MLB and some sites picked up on it. Even that whole week Sony and Sony San Diego didn't say a word.

we'll see how they promote MLB the Show in 2021

 

[Flick]

I wonder when it will come to Game Pass for PC.

Game Pass PC maybe?
There are tons of games on Steam AND Game Pass for PC, so it would make sense.

 

[MMaRsu]

Well time for a second run at 4k60frame and a fov larger than a pornostar pussy.

haha nice

 

[CatLady]

And MLB baseball in 2021 for "Multiple platforms".

don't be surprised if it's a day one game on Xbox and PC. Maybe Switch too. Unless they give Sony a break and do a staggered ship date.

you can tell it wasn't something that they wanted to be promoted, but Sony didn't want to say one word about it because they are console warred. The communication came from MLB and some sites picked up on it. Even that whole week Sony and Sony San Diego didn't say a word.

we'll see how they promote MLB the Show in 2021

Yeah, I had totally forgotten about MLB but I edited another post I made to add it to the mix.

 

[DoctaThompson]

dumb way to devalue your brand, hope this is not a frequent thing to happen.

Pretty sure it will only get more and more frequent. Sony knows PC players aren't going to go out and buy hardware just to play a handful of games at most. Instead of Sony making absolutely no money from pc players, they can at least sell software.

 

[iorek21]

Blooborne is probably the next obvious release

Days Gone as well

 

[dEvAnGeL]

Smart move by Soony, releasing one of their old games to hype the PC base and then announce the sequel exclusive to the ps5, it will definitely help sell a few consoles.

 

[LostDonkey]

Fuckin A.

Crap game imo but the more the merrier. Keep em coming

 

[TheStruggler]

didnt devalue xbox tho................oh wait

lmao

 

[TheStruggler]

Pretty sure it will only get more and more frequent. Sony knows PC players aren't going to go out and buy hardware just to play a handful of games at most. Instead of Sony making absolutely no money from pc players, they can at least sell software.

Then dont entice them, Sony makes more money selling you their system, then having you subscribe with ps plus, checking out the psn store, and also third party licensing titles on their hardware. More hardware sold, more titles sold. This is basic business people and most people dont understand keeping things exclusive to their brand will help them more in the lnog run. This is stupid and a short term effect of money flow they can show the higher ups and go "hey look more money" while their console sales start to go down YOY

 

[KAL2006]

Don't you like the consoles world or how Sony manage the PlayStation hardware or services?

Not really I'm just interested in playing the top games and it's PlayStation exclusives that are some of the top. Though I understand Sony invest in their first party to get people into their hardware and services, so I guess if everyone had my mentality and wanted all Sony games to come on Steam and never buys PlayStation then they probably won't have as many quality first party games.

Another reason I'm not big of a PC gamer is I prefer using a controller so shooters id get destroyed on, I also usually see PlayStation games have bigger and more active online community especially fighting games. However cross play would fix that and perhaps detection of using a controller so you only play against other controller users for shooters.

If I get the following
- the top first party PlayStation exclusives
- cross online for most games

The I'd be jumping ship to PC gaming but I don't see this happening so most likely if be buying a PS5.

 

[GymWolf]

Ehh, up to a point. But what you'd have rather (really, I suggest you watch the video) - that designers meticulously place every single tree, bush and piece of grass in place. Or that the tech allows designers to just basically paint an area with a "tree brush" (or a "bush brush", or a "path brush", or what have you) and the procedural generation does the rest. I think it's a worthy tradeoff. Especially considering HZD already does this.

there is no point.

just answer this:

how do you make new and better animation? need time
introducing 20 new character instead of 10? need time
30 hour campaign instead of 20h? need time
aerial and under the sea combat instead of only ground combat? need time
30 new dinobot instead of 10? need time
5 new moves\attacks for old dinobot instead of 2? need time
etc. etc.
(of course i'm esagerating a little to make these example but the point is pretty clear)

see where i'm going?
this stuff doens't create by himself like the map creating technology they already use, you need manpower, money and especially time for these things.
i already know how horizon 1 work, i watched your video in the past.

sure some things don't need much time, but number of contenent, quality. polish etc. require time, more the best, it's pure incontrovertible logic.

ask yourself why rdr2 has a gazillion more unique animation, script, casual event, something to see in basically every angle of the map compared to an annual assassinc creed title (or every other open world game really)? because the first was in the oven for almost a decade, the ubisoft title re-use a shitload of assets etc. and they make them almost annually. (and both rockstar and ubisoft have manpower and money but not the same release time for their games)

it's a fact that horizon 2 in development for 5 years is gonna be bigger and better than horizon 2 in development for 3 years, it's not really hard to understand why i want the game in the oven for a prolonged time instead of a rushed title for the launch (because don't kid yourself, every launch game is rushed because devs have a date to respect and especially for launch where they can't even delay the game)

just looks at some old days gone gameplay before the delay and the final version, it's all improved because they take their time (of course they are a relatively small studio and probably not telented like some other sony teams, so the end result is not really flawless, but still...)

 

[hemo memo]

Smart move by Soony, releasing one of their old games to hype the PC base and then announce the sequel exclusive to the ps5, it will definitely help sell a few consoles.

Yes because the PC base is so massive, millions of them are going to buy a PS5 to play HZD2.

Or maybe because the massive PC base, Sony hope to sell more copies because of the low PS4 version sales.

 

[Mercenary09]

Great news as it will just get more people excited for Horizon 2. The sony fanboys flipping out over this are pathetic.

 

[ShadowWolf712]

Then dont entice them, Sony makes more money selling you their system, then having you subscribe with ps plus, checking out the psn store, and also third party licensing titles on their hardware. More hardware sold, more titles sold. This is basic business people and most people dont understand keeping things exclusive to their brand will help them more in the lnog run. This is stupid and a short term effect of money flow they can show the higher ups and go "hey look more money" while their console sales start to go down YOY

The man said the plan was to try to get them hooked with the games, which would entice them to buy hardware to get access to the other games in the library.

I have doubts that'll work, but I see no reason to doubt him at this point. And given how easy the port job is thanks to the DS port, it's a fairly safe title to experiment with.

I honestly think that they may also be doing this as they plan to announce Horizon 2 for PS5 soon, and hope that might entice PC gamers to jump on it, even if only a fraction who weren't in this gen.

 

[nowhat]

Or maybe because the massive PC base, Sony hope to sell more copies because of the low PS4 version sales.

You honestly consider 10M+ sold for a platform-exclusive new IP to be "low sales"?

 

[ShadowWolf712]

Yes because the PC base is so massive, millions of them are going to buy a PS5 to play HZD2.

Or maybe because the massive PC base, Sony hope to sell more copies because of the low PS4 version sales.

>low

Uhh... it sold really well but I mean

 

[Psykodad]

Don't think GoT has an MP version.

Was talking about TLOU

 

[ShadowWolf712]

Was talking about TLOU

Yes, I'm being facetious and implying I don't quite give him the same benefit of the doubt.

Anyways, I'm 99% sure Dreams is next simply because of the nature of what the game is. Plus MM refused to rule out the idea of it coming to other platforms later.

 

[hemo memo]

You honestly consider 10M+ sold for a platform-exclusive new IP to be "low sales"?

Compared to the MASSIVE PC base.

 

[GymWolf]

It is far fetched. There will be a lot of effects and engine refinements that will not be in this PS4 port, like there will be for the next evolution of their engine for the sequel.

Most of the updates for HZD on the PC like framerate and resolution will probably make their way to the PS5 as well, which is a win/win all around.

exactly.
horizon 2 is gonna destroy horizon 1 on pc exepct for things like lod, shadows, framerate, fov etc. because you can tweak those things to infinite and beyond on pc (if you have a beefy pc)

horizon 1 is still at his core a game created for a 1.8 tf machine, number of polygons, animations, dinobot on screen at the same time, destruction and physics etc. are gonna be the exact same on pc.

 

[nowhat]

Compared to the MASSIVE PC base.

Out of that MASSIVE PC base, how many of them will be able to play the game in a meaningful fashion? Seriously, check out the Steam stats for the average/median PC. They're really not that great. I'm not disputing you can get an absolutely beast of a machine if you're willing to pay for it, you totally can. But the target market here is not the whole MASSIVE PC base, by far.

 

[DoctaThompson]

Then dont entice them, Sony makes more money selling you their system, then having you subscribe with ps plus, checking out the psn store, and also third party licensing titles on their hardware. More hardware sold, more titles sold. This is basic business people and most people dont understand keeping things exclusive to their brand will help them more in the lnog run. This is stupid and a short term effect of money flow they can show the higher ups and go "hey look more money" while their console sales start to go down YOY

Console owners will continue to buy hardware. That's a given. But there are many pc players that have no interest in consoles, and simply just won't buy any. Sony makes ZERO money from people like this. Now of course, Sony will sell the ps5 at a loss initially, so it only makes sense to squeeze as much money out of people as possible, AKA selling software on other platforms. This is a smart decision for Sony, as they are at least making some money, rather than, no money from the pc user base.

I can understand investors and people with stock options in the company Sony, being a little upset. But for y'all average consumers to be upset and bent out of shape, is fucking hilarious to say the least. I don't get why some people get so invested and emotional over a company or console. Shouldn't everyone be happy that others get to play *insert game title here*?

 

[GymWolf]

The combat wasn't really that good. It really suffers when fighting human enemies or using the staff/spear thing in general. Plus enemies having specific weak points meant that each time you fought them the fight went exactly the same way most of the time.

Found myself just rushing through the second half to finish the game and move on, as I found the story at least somewhat interesting enough to keep me going. Add onto this boring side-quest, unnecessary crafting system, and boring exploration.

But this is just my opinion and that was theirs. No need to pull the "are you high?!" card out.

human and melee combat is like 10-20% of the total in that game, and a lot of human fighting is optional...

the game is for the most part a tps, and the tps part is exceptional, especially on hardest difficulty level (if you try relying on melee on ultra hard you get destroyed)

it's like saying that god of war\bloodborne combat is mediocre because the 5% ranged combat with the axe\pistols is not as good as the melee...

 

[hemo memo]

Out of that MASSIVE PC base, how many of them will be able to play the game in a meaningful fashion? Seriously, check out the Steam stats for the average/median PC. They're really not that great. I'm not disputing you can get an absolutely beast of a machine if you're willing to pay for it, you totally can. But the target market here is not the whole MASSIVE PC base, by far.

I thought it was obvious that I'm being sarcastic. I'm sorry.

 

[DoctaThompson]

Out of that MASSIVE PC base, how many of them will be able to play the game in a meaningful fashion? Seriously, check out the Steam stats for the average/median PC. They're really not that great. I'm not disputing you can get an absolutely beast of a machine if you're willing to pay for it, you totally can. But the target market here is not the whole MASSIVE PC base, by far.

What does it matter if someone is playing the game on a gtx 1060? It will still play and look better than ps4/pro. Or if they are playing with a rtx 2080 Ti? They can even play the game on a potato rig. Not every pc player needs a nuclear machine, to enjoy the game. That's the beauty of pc, you aren't force fed a single hardware configuration. You can literally pick and choose how you want to play your games.

 

[daninthemix]

Sorry guys. I was ridiculed, disrespected, flamed, etc.. for being a "fake" insider who had an agenda. I told myself I wouldn't leak on these boards anymore. You guys will have to wait for the official news. And there are more exclusives coming. Don't fall for that "excuse" as to why they are developing on the PC. If you go back and look at all of my past posts, you will see a pattern as well as plenty of clues as to what's coming on the horizon.

Well I was perfectly polite.

Can you not at least hint as to WHEN we'll get news of another port?

Come on, give a brother some bread.

 

[VertigoOA]

Now PC gamers can play this overrated pile... yay

 

[Stuart360]

This and Driveclub were the only PS4 games i really wanted on PC. We are not going to get Driveclub unfortunately so this will do. Tried GOW and Uncharted on PSNow, didnt like them, although the terrible image quality on PSNow was part of the problem.

 

[Holammer]

I'm surprised Epic didn't offer money for exclusivity

I wouldn't be surprised if they did, but Sony/Guerilla expects to sell X amounts of copies and want Epic to cover any lost sales if it under performs on EGS.
Sweeney thinks really hard about it and does not want to be saddled with potentially several 10's of millons of dollars in 'guaranteed revenue' payouts.
Then he offered a cross promotion event in Fortnite and the discussion ended there.