StreetsofBeige
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Last of Us Part Two.
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ESRB rating leaks Horizon: Zero Dawn Remastered for PS5 and PC
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Shake Your Rump
Banned
It isn't the selling of the game that is troublesome. It's the opportunity cost and diversion of resources to produce an almost completely unnecessary remake when there are an infinite number of other ideas that could be published.
This is purely capitalist fodder for the stock market, not for us, and that is why we are upset.
saintjules
Gold Member
That's not really our decision to make. We also aren't given information as to what "resources" are being used there to update/make/release this.
How do we know if they're using a ton of "resources" to do this? What if said resources was already allocated to the project years prior?
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RoadHazard
Gold Member
So fucking boring.
Edgelord79
Gold Member
I did too. It was shorter.
Edgelord79
Gold Member
midnightAI
Banned
Do you know what resources were assigned? Cost involved compared to sales they'll make? Come on, these remasters take very little actual effort, they are done by small teams internally and cost peanuts compared to the cost of new games. I seriously doubt they took much resources away from development of new games (whether that's Horizon 3 or a new IP)
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
At first I was thinking that this makes little to know sense, as the game is already playable on PS4/5 and PC. One explanation is that they are doing it to make it to take more advantage of the new hardware on PS5 and Pro, which would make sense, but I wonder if there could be more to it than that.
I wonder if Sony's love for doing some of these remasters, rather than updates to the existing code is because they are putting in the hooks to take advantage of not just what is available now, but what might also be happening in the future?
One thing could be that they know PSSR is going to be such a big part of the Playstation development toolkit for next generation, that building it in at the ground level to the games now will then allow these games to shine for longer in the future, as the tech and hardware improves.
Another theory I have, kind of related maybe, is that they are also catering for a PS handheld or Switch 2 versions of these games into their build pipeline, so if/when these devices come to the market all these remastered games can be released quickly with native support. HZD on Switch 2 may make a lot of sense given that the Lego game is coming to Switch and there will be an audience moving to Switch 2 that might be ready to then play the 'proper' game.
Obviously a side benefit of all these remastered is that they can keep 'milking' money out of a game for years to come, but I honestly think their thinking is beyond PS5 and PC.
I wonder if Sony's love for doing some of these remasters, rather than updates to the existing code is because they are putting in the hooks to take advantage of not just what is available now, but what might also be happening in the future?
One thing could be that they know PSSR is going to be such a big part of the Playstation development toolkit for next generation, that building it in at the ground level to the games now will then allow these games to shine for longer in the future, as the tech and hardware improves.
Another theory I have, kind of related maybe, is that they are also catering for a PS handheld or Switch 2 versions of these games into their build pipeline, so if/when these devices come to the market all these remastered games can be released quickly with native support. HZD on Switch 2 may make a lot of sense given that the Lego game is coming to Switch and there will be an audience moving to Switch 2 that might be ready to then play the 'proper' game.
Obviously a side benefit of all these remastered is that they can keep 'milking' money out of a game for years to come, but I honestly think their thinking is beyond PS5 and PC.
Edgelord79
Gold Member
1) We know why they are made. To make money. Same as every other product. People are not “braindead” they are frustrated.
2) The advantages to the company are irrelevant to the consumer. Nobody gets the game based off the “at least devs got some billables in making this, I’m going to buy it.” Hate to break it to you, I have a strong suspicion that when buying any products, nobody cares about any internal decisions.
Look of course it will probably make enough to justify the cost as there are people out there who will buy whatever as long as there is a new setting in the menu. Consider that Sony has nothing first party right now and the faucet is off. But let’s not pretend that the optics on this are pretty awful. I mean is this what it’s become, remasters and remasters of remasters? Apathy in consumers to a company’s products is not good. I think this is what it generates in the long term.
Nintendo's Witch
Member
remaster of a mid at best game, fantastic
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I'm much more interested into experiencing Zero Dawn again through the new Lego Horizon game than this.
But if it's a 10$ upgrade it's basically the cost of a small DLC so depending on the visual/gameplay/qol upgrades I might consider it. If it's 40+$ absolutely not interested.
But if it's a 10$ upgrade it's basically the cost of a small DLC so depending on the visual/gameplay/qol upgrades I might consider it. If it's 40+$ absolutely not interested.
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Dazraell
Member
Looking at Sony's moves this generation, they seem to have an allergy to giving things for free so I wouldn't count for it to happen
Angry_Megalodon
Member
Exactly this. I don't get why it's so difficult to understand.
Sony going full Ubisoft is pathetic.
Melon Husk
Member
We just got it on PC 4 years ago?
Alien Isolation PS5 remaster with HDR would make too much sense. There was a new movie and everything. Nope.
Alien Isolation PS5 remaster with HDR would make too much sense. There was a new movie and everything. Nope.
TheGodfather07
Member
I get that horizon is a successful franchise, but it's the last thing I want to see more of.
//DEVIL//
Member
more horizon ports....
this and the last of us....
If anyone buy this then you are a monkey. nothing else I can add to be honest. you deserve to be robbed
Also i hope it sells Zero units.
remake of the game on PC ? what will they add ? ray tracing and look we have a remake ?
fuck off
this and the last of us....
If anyone buy this then you are a monkey. nothing else I can add to be honest. you deserve to be robbed
Also i hope it sells Zero units.
remake of the game on PC ? what will they add ? ray tracing and look we have a remake ?
fuck off
Rayderism
Member
Talk about a game that didn't need a remaster, yet so many games that are stuck on PS3 could be remastered and are just ignored. It really boggles the mind at how Sony is leaving so many IP's on PS3, yet complain they lack IP's to capitalize on. It's as if they don't even know what IP's they actually have anymore.
BlackTron
Member
Even Nintendo puts a stand in the box.
Skifi28
Member
Cool, thanks.
Moriarty1889
Member
I think I will pass and wait for the inevitable HORIZON ZERO DAWN ULTIMATE GAME OF THE YEAR EDITION REMASTER for the PS5 PRO.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Anything that I don't want is an opportunity cost (from my POV), and those resources could have been better spent elsewhere to my liking.
But that's not how the world works.
Will this remaster sell some copies? Of course, it will. A lot of people will buy this remaster, which means Sony spent their resources in the perfect manner (from those customers' POV).
And that is why the original comment was fine: we don't have to buy it if we don't like it. We can ignore this product just like we ignore the hundreds of other games that release every year.
Skifi28
Member
This. I will forever be puzzled by those trying to shame others for spending their money how they like. We don't all have to like the same things. Vote with your wallet like I will do and let the market decide If it was unnecessary or not.
The main antagonist is a woman (Tilda van der Meer) and Regalla is also a woman. There are more good men in that world than there are women. I think you've got the wrong end of the stick.
It probably cost little to make. It's barely a waste. Like HZD running on the HFW engine for improvements.
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Husky
THE Prey 2 fanatic
It'd be insane if they didn't, and yet I expect they won't.
Fake
Member
Dude every remaster cost little lmao. My 'waste of money' was about the game they choise to remaster, nothing to do with the cost.
They have a vast list of games that are old and could benifit for remastering, HZD is not a old game.
