Riky
$MSFT
DF, NXGamer and everyone else and their mothers: "PS5 performs better overall".
Riky: "let me post this screenshot 20 times to prove them wrong".
Oh there is a lot more than one....
DF: Cyberpunk 2077 PS5 vs Xbox Series X/ Series S - A Huge Improvement Over Last-Gen Consoles
Oh there is a lot more than one....
Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
So how do you explain the shoddy performance of XSX in indoor firefights in like for like scenes?It only manages these very small resolution and frame rate advantages because they took most of the cars and people outwhen they put the rest of the moving parts of the city in it will tank because of small GPU, slower CPU and lower peak memory bandwidth.
Is that when you revert to the VRR talking point?
Gudji
Member
Oh there is a lot more than one....
Listen you can cherry pick whatever you want and take screenshots, I and everyone else can do the same with the XSX footage and believe me there's a lot more ammo on that one. Doesn't change the fact that the people that have been making these kinds of analysis for years have said it: PS5 performs better overall. You either get over it or you don't.
thelastword
Banned
That 900p was during one frame in the entire clip on PS5, that was found during the opening cutscene clip. When the guy's reflection was in the mirror. Everywhere else, it run at 1200p on PS5 at a more consistent framerate over Series X.Hate to be the one to break this to you but the performance mode after the latest patch has a higher resolution on XSX as per NXgamer and VG tech found that the PS5 version can drop to 900p and hit 41fps
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
See what it's like to go on the defensive when someone cherry picks a scene in 10 minute clips? Look in the mirror.
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Riky
$MSFT
At a lower resolution it still hits 41fps with a far lower crowd and traffic density and lower graphical settings on PS5.
Then we have quality mode which doesn't exist on PS5 and is far better graphically as they all say also.
Riky
$MSFT
Still drops to 900p. At lower graphical settings with less people and less traffic on top.
Gudji
Member
It's not a big difference in resolution and PS5 does have higher res most of the time according to DF. The crowd doesn't make the big difference you're talking about, we've had games with more crowd during ps4 generation.
The funny part is that you like to ignore the details. On the dirt 5 comparison (a native version) you were one of the people ignoring PS5 had more detail in every single mode and better performance, but now in a BC game you're championing the higher crowd and a 30 fps mode. Lmao keep fighting the good fight champ.
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Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
Any comparisons around?
DJ12
Member
Checks average frame rate, ps5 is higher.
OK, so lower detail settings don't matter in dirt5 but do in this game. Gotcha.
Series x drops to the low 0's, whats your point.
PS5 drops to low forties as well, just seems to be the dynamic nature of the game.
Maybe its because its a bc game and therefore irrelevant due to the very different approaches Sony and Ms have taken.
They also haven't taken screenshot of series x hovering at 0 fps either
Riky
$MSFT
DF analysis is pre 1.04 patch that raises resolution on Xbox, so it's now irrelevant.
Dirt 5 the Devs came out apologising about the wrong settings bug and are patching it.
Gudji
Member
Even on 1.0.4 ps5 still performs better so this is pointlesss conversation.
Schnozberry
Member
Seems like there is some kind of bug on PC that is affecting core utilization on AMD CPUs.
I don't think that would affect consoles, but it's just another example of how this game still came in piping hot despite being delayed multiple times. Hard to blame the overworked team at CDPR, but it really does seem like this was pushed out for the Holiday season knowing it was in something of an appalling state.
I don't think that would affect consoles, but it's just another example of how this game still came in piping hot despite being delayed multiple times. Hard to blame the overworked team at CDPR, but it really does seem like this was pushed out for the Holiday season knowing it was in something of an appalling state.
XXL
Banned
Yep. Much better.
thelastword
Banned
What lower graphical settings? Performance vs performance is the same. Quality vs performance has higher crowd density on Xbox, wait till ps5 gets that mode and we will compare.... I still don't trust DF though. They are comparing quality mode to PS5's performance mode for crowd density and Richard has the audacity to mention none like for like scenes when Xbox falls much lower in firefights. What's funny is as John said, it does not drop too much on Xbox and boom.... 45fps. Richard comes to the defense with none like for like scenes, but they had no problem doing that on PS4 vs XBONE or even in the dmc and cod face off......
Overall PS5 performs better. What's funny is they are trying to push this NPC narrative hard, but in one of their NPC comparisons, there are more npc's in the performance mode than Series X quality mode, that aspect of the game seems to be random as all hell.... Again look at how well DF' s eagle eye is working, they can see better AO and npc's on Xbox quality mode, but they were literally blind with ultra vs low differences in visuals in dirt and many other faceoffs, which favored PS5.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
People were sending them death threats for the delay too. Crazy
thelastword
Banned
Just finished watching the video, John is choosing his words through out, don't want to step on toes, of course his boss is there so he treads softly, trying the all modes are great spiel. No they are not all great. That NPC thing they keep in latching to is random, there are no higher quality settings on Xbox just an extra mode, which the PS5 should have too, at a higher resolution, better effects and framerate as per usual....if it was there.
Also, Series X and S has this Skyrim PS3 hitching and 0 framerate atrocity, they made little of it, that's a huge performance issue on top of worse overall framerate on Xbox.
Then, apart from John's apologetic and trying to stop the debates tone, his.. "they are all close and great versions"...Depends if you like 30 with higher rez or 60fps, such a hard choice, since the quality mode hitches on Xbox too.
Also, did Richard just run an ad for Series S? That story of his friend who returned the PS4 copy and bought a Series S is hilarious..... What makes it worse, is that Richard is much too shameless to compare a PS4 PRO to a Series S, just because they are the same 4TF?, just to show S runs this game better, "a tidy little machine that S"...., but it's 30fps Richard and it hitches, when the pro version does not, so is it better, I think the rez is lower than that of the pro version too...Richard does not care though.... S is such a far cry from that 1440p console juggernaut at X settings or the console which would even beat the PS5....
So many dropped standards and ideals for the series consoles, now it's competing with a Polaris 4tf gpu with jaguars to put it in its best light and it barely beats PRO, If it does at all. All the hype and chest beating is gone, they are now literally scraping the bottom of the barrel for any kind of win....
Also, Series X and S has this Skyrim PS3 hitching and 0 framerate atrocity, they made little of it, that's a huge performance issue on top of worse overall framerate on Xbox.
Then, apart from John's apologetic and trying to stop the debates tone, his.. "they are all close and great versions"...Depends if you like 30 with higher rez or 60fps, such a hard choice, since the quality mode hitches on Xbox too.
Also, did Richard just run an ad for Series S? That story of his friend who returned the PS4 copy and bought a Series S is hilarious..... What makes it worse, is that Richard is much too shameless to compare a PS4 PRO to a Series S, just because they are the same 4TF?, just to show S runs this game better, "a tidy little machine that S"...., but it's 30fps Richard and it hitches, when the pro version does not, so is it better, I think the rez is lower than that of the pro version too...Richard does not care though.... S is such a far cry from that 1440p console juggernaut at X settings or the console which would even beat the PS5....
So many dropped standards and ideals for the series consoles, now it's competing with a Polaris 4tf gpu with jaguars to put it in its best light and it barely beats PRO, If it does at all. All the hype and chest beating is gone, they are now literally scraping the bottom of the barrel for any kind of win....
alabtrosMyster
Member
alabtrosMyster
Member
None of these statements make the PS5 version worse than it was before (pretty close to locked 60fps)... and whatever resolution it hit before? unless CDPR went out of their way to break the Playstation version.
So: when the game runs at 41 fps what's the frame rate on the Series X? because on series X the game RAN at about 45 - 55fps before the resolution bump! .. like 41fps happened pretty regularly in the city.
Also: when the game runs at 900p on PS5--what is the resolution on series X in comparable situations?
More importantly, when do we get a "PS5 version" that uses all the CUs, and run the CPU/GPU at full frequency?... given the current situation I assume it would be pretty amazing.
I'm not aware of any marketing deals between the two, but they have had a pretty good relation ship with MS for a long time now, I recall when they were working on the Witcher 3 one of their programmers stated he preferred working on the xbox one for whatever reason (the tools I guess, they're mostly the same as on PC).
MasterCornholio
Member
Not pointing out any particular version but this is just bad in my opinion.
The game clearly needs a patch to take advantage of these consoles.
The game clearly needs a patch to take advantage of these consoles.
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Valued Gamer
Banned
Dude, don't be so quick to try and get a win with silly one offs.
What you say holds as much truth as an xbox fan saying that the PS5 doesn't have a quality mode because it wasn't possible on the PS5.
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thelastword
Banned
Don't worry Vrr will fix this.....That 0fps plays better with Vrr..Well, I can fix this--STRAIGHT LINE!
alabtrosMyster
Member
It gives you a break to snack, I mean... a couple of seconds at 0 is enough to take a sip or a bite!
Little Chicken
Banned
So the PS5 version hits 900p
I wonder if they'll update now that the Xbox patch is starting to come out.
Remember those cries of DF being biased against Sony after some people eventually started accepting the PS5 specs...
I wonder if they'll update now that the Xbox patch is starting to come out.
Remember those cries of DF being biased against Sony after some people eventually started accepting the PS5 specs...
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ethomaz
Banned
ethomaz
Banned
The 1.04 patch increase PS5 resolution and fix the crowd issue and at the same time holds the solid 60fps.
Either 1.02 or 1.04 the PS5 has the better resolution and framerate than Series X.
See?
Now not even the crowd is an issue anymore.
Imagine if PS5 reaches the quality mode level at 60fps with more patches
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Hawking Radiation
Wants to watch an Event Horizon porno
Another win for PS5. This gen is going to be rough for Xbox.
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Neo_game
Member
lol then people are going to get crazy and still be cherry picking on different modes, version in favor of their preferred console.
JORMBO
Darkness no more
Does anyone believe that either system isn't capable of holding 60fps with the current shitty graphics? The console version looks bad even by last gen standards. Right now they are just using a zero effort BC mode so it's not going to be perfect. Comparing them and picking apart 2 second frame drops is pointless right now.
Silent Viper
Banned
COD has been patched. Problem is DF will not go back to game to do analysis again. So even if game is fixed, you will not notice. It runs pretty good on both. There's no such thing PS5 runs better anymore in COD
Silent Viper
Banned
You can't judge image quality from that screenshot. You will see the difference when you play on your TV. My friend is playing on PS5 and it looks very blurry to even One X version.
Only advantage PS5 got is better frame rate and loadtimes seems to be quite long for some reason
SoloKingRobert
Banned
I wasn't judging anything. If you look closer the PS5 version is in Lockdown
Gudji
Member
NXgamer did a Cod video showing the differences, ps5 plays and looks better. And no the update didn't change that. It's a trend with PS5 vs XSX games.
Silent Viper
Banned
You watched the comparison?
He said both versions near identical with some flickering in shadows in way back ground on SX one selected scene but overall he said both are near identical and frame rate is locked 60 in both.
In 120fps mode, both versions only drop in one helicopter scene, PS5 goes to 100 and SX goes to 96 minimum. So that brings me to question that have you experienced a 120fps game? You do realise when game already running at such high frame rate, you don't notice drops at all.
Both versions seem solid that's what he said.
captainraincoat
Banned
the ps5 has a special feature...when you call jackies chopper it makes the framerate go choppy and crash
Xbox was defiantly the lead console platform ...it runs and looks much better than the ps5
the upload error server would be getting a hammering at sonys end
Xbox was defiantly the lead console platform ...it runs and looks much better than the ps5
the upload error server would be getting a hammering at sonys end
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Kagey K
Banned
Receipts?
Gudji
Member
PS5 has better performance, better shadows and effects, more detail on the scenes as shown in other comparison videos. Which goes against what you said. Both are near identical and ultimately pointless to the end user but ps5 is better, those are facts, not opinions.
From his ass
love the wars , great laughs.
Gudji
Member
From his ass
Time to watch NXgamer video champ. Lmao
Kagey K
Banned
I've been looking for new comparisons and nobody has any.From his ass
The only major bug I had in Xbox was the city freezing for a second or 2 while driving and 1.0.4 killed it.
Because my tv has VRR (I know you all hate it) I don't know if it fixed the other stuff. Was curious to see.