Final Fantasy VII: Rebirth releases February 29, 2024

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Go_Ly_Dow said:
I think some of the TGS demos (which I haven't watched) were running at 60fps.

I think its a long shot for them to hit the heights of part 1 version running on PS5 in Rebirth with the larger more complex environments to render but still expecting it to run great, both quality and performance modes as they have a lot of knowledge with this engine. Unlike XVI which was a new internal engine and delivered a great quality mode but poor performance mode. I hope they can include a 120hz/40fps version at launch as a middleground.
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Or just support VRR. That would be more a PS5 Pro thing. I hope with PS5 Pro all our 60fps performance modes can now be 60-120fps w/ VRR (probably more like 100-120fps VRR in reality). And also better fidelity, but I'll take the 120fps over that myself first.
 
Minsc said:
Or just support VRR. That would be more a PS5 Pro thing. I hope with PS5 Pro all our 60fps performance modes can now be 60-120fps w/ VRR (probably more like 100-120fps VRR in reality). And also better fidelity, but I'll take the 120fps over that myself first.
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I pre ordered the deluxe edition but I'm considering not playing it until I get a pro though it fully depends on what the specs of the pro are if the pro is the specs i want I'm definitely going to wait (it's almost guaranteed this will get a pro patch)
 
Go_Ly_Dow said:
FF7 30th anniversary in 2027. Assuming they're going gung ho with development for the final part then that's my bet.
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rofif said:
Seems like enough time if they keep to ps5 and same engine
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This has been one of the most impressive devs cycles for a game ever. I amazed it's coming out next year considering it likely started development during covid. ( Take a Hint square don't start from scratch every game then you may not need to sell 20 million copies!)

The Big challenges for the next game are getting the Highwind and Sub working but the fact they already have a Flying Chocobo working gives me great confidence they can work it out.

In theory they should have about 2/3's of the world map already made from this game creating the rest should be smooth sailing.
 
The artful mincer said:
This has been one of the most impressive devs cycles for a game ever. I amazed it's coming out next year considering it likely started development during covid. ( Take a Hint square don't start from scratch every game then you may not need to sell 20 million copies!)

The Big challenges for the next game are getting the Highwind and Sub working but the fact they already have a Flying Chocobo working gives me great confidence they can work it out.

In theory they should have about 2/3's of the world map already made from this game creating the rest should be smooth sailing.
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2020 to 2024. 3 full years of dev essentially. Seems reasonable!
Not trying to reinvent the wheel, engine and crap.
They can reuse a lot of stuff from remake and build on that.
 
rofif said:
2020 to 2024. 3 full years of dev essentially. Seems reasonable!
Not trying to reinvent the wheel, engine and crap.
They can reuse a lot of stuff from remake and build on that.
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True! Still the scale of the world and all the unique assets they would have had to make is still really impressive.
 
I think Part 3 could be less years off. Part 2 seems to cover the entire planet as it apparently stops at the ancient city. They can reuse a lot with part 3, and add the Northern Crater to it. They could open up Part 3 from the get go for example, having you prepare for the final battle.
 
SkylineRKR said:
I think Part 3 could be less years off. Part 2 seems to cover the entire planet as it apparently stops at the ancient city. They can reuse a lot with part 3, and add the Northern Crater to it. They could open up Part 3 from the get go for example, having you prepare for the final battle.
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Yeah, so I think 2027, 3 years after Rebirth is a safe bet for the final part. I recalll when Rebirth was announced in June 2022 they said work was already underway for it.
 
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SkylineRKR said:
I think Part 3 could be less years off. Part 2 seems to cover the entire planet as it apparently stops at the ancient city. They can reuse a lot with part 3, and add the Northern Crater to it. They could open up Part 3 from the get go for example, having you prepare for the final battle.
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The wutai continent is not in this game. They will have to create the stuff you mentioned and under the ocean as well as all the Islands the Highwind can get to etc.

They could potentially expand it a lot that's one of the big unknowns at this point.
 
The artful mincer said:
The wutai continent is not in this game. They will have to create the stuff you mentioned and under the ocean as well as all the Islands the Highwind can get to etc.

They could potentially expand it a lot that's one of the big unknowns at this point.
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They still have a lot to develop, but imagine how much quicker it will be by having the development tools and game design all ready and just shifting over all the resources over to it. I hope they use some of the work in the 7R project into FFXVII and an FFX remake.
 
Go_Ly_Dow said:
I hope they use some of the work in the 7R project into FFXVII and an FFX remake.
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I really really really hope they do this! After a decade of clowing around they finally have a combat system that works and the fanbase likes.

If they can develop games quickly there's less of a concern to grow sales. Just following whatever other successful games has never guaranteed success.

Hopefully BG3 has woken up the industry to take notice and back themselves.

If FF can't do it then someone else will. Wouldn't surprise me if another JRPG franchise can break out and outsell FF if they continue to clown about.
 
The artful mincer said:
The wutai continent is not in this game. They will have to create the stuff you mentioned and under the ocean as well as all the Islands the Highwind can get to etc.

They could potentially expand it a lot that's one of the big unknowns at this point.
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Yeah, Wutai could be even longer/larger than the whole Sector 7 from Remake.

And they have hopefully big plans for Knights of the Round. In the OG it sort of makes no sense at all, and people (streamers like Max) have mentioned it would be all too perfect to build that up a bit more story-wise even in to a main plotline quest, as it is such a crazy and ridiculous summon, and I agree, I don't know what they do but the idea of helping and learning more about the 12 knights or however many, and then getting their aid as a summon in a key boss battle sounds perfect to me.
 
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Go_Ly_Dow said:
FF7 30th anniversary in 2027. Assuming they're going gung ho with development for the final part then that's my bet.
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Probably, the lengthiest parts of development and asset work was all done with Remake. Of course, they still have to build things, but w/ sticking to an existing engine and just iterating it will speed things up for direct sequels so a 3-4 year cycle again works out. Kitase's XIII trilogy comparison was right.

I don't agree with some on sticking to one combat for mainline, but asset re-use and maybe just sticking to a familiar engine should definitely be part of Kiryu's strategy to speed up release cycles for mainline FF & DQ.
 
I would say FF7 Remake is one of the few remakes along with RE2 where justice is actually done to a great game and possibly takes it to another level.
 
kevm3 said:
I would say FF7 Remake is one of the few remakes along with RE2 where justice is actually done to a great game and possibly takes it to another level.
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Yeah, but quite a lot of people hate it. I loved it, as did most streamers I've seen run through it. The biggest ones being Nico and Max, who have huge nostalgia for the OG, both loved FF7 (Max a little less so, but still I'd say if anything he's more hype for Rebirth). While with FFXVI - most streamers love the game as well, they come down a lot harsher on the missing elements and side quests, rightly so.

Just to me - those missing elements and sidequests and main characters I all enjoyed much more in Remake than XVI. Can't even really compare all the missing RPG elements and exploration, so XVI takes a hard loss there, but the characters I found much more interesting in VII, and the sidequests due to character interaction (which is almost absent from XVI) also more interesting in VII.

Rebirth does look like Remake on crack though, it's going to be nuts.
 
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SkylineRKR said:
I think Part 3 could be less years off. Part 2 seems to cover the entire planet as it apparently stops at the ancient city. They can reuse a lot with part 3, and add the Northern Crater to it. They could open up Part 3 from the get go for example, having you prepare for the final battle.
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Part 2 ends at the end of the original final fantasy 7 game

Part 3 is going to be a direct sequel to final fantasy 7
 
Skifi28 said:
Is that confirmed or just a joke?
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It was what was being said when we first found out it was in development

Doing a bit of reading just now, rebirth ends at the forgotten capital, so the end of the second disc of the original game

Apologies I hadn't read much about it recently

We do have to bare in mind that the timeline and story will change a fair bit from the original game though, judging by the end of remake, which is nothing like the original game

Considering the short length of the originals 3rd disc, I think it's safe to say part 3 will also include the events and lead up of the animated film advent children as well, so in a way it will also be a sequel to the original
 
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I've been thinking wouldn't it make more sense to have the Midgar key and potential return to explore part of the city in this game? It seems implausible to have all the continents, underwater and Midgar all in part 3 as much as technology is progressing so rapidly.
 
Mephisto40 said:
It was what was being said when we first found out it was in development

Doing a bit of reading just now, rebirth ends at the forgotten capital, so the end of the second disc of the original game

Apologies I hadn't read much about it recently

We do have to bare in mind that the timeline and story will change a fair bit from the original game though, judging by the end of remake, which is nothing like the original game

Considering the short length of the originals 3rd disc, I think it's safe to say part 3 will also include the events and lead up of the animated film advent children as well, so in a way it will also be a sequel to the original
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Part 1 is already
a sequel to the original and they've already tied in some Advent Children and compliation stuff into it. For example SOLDIER celluar degredation, the deepground people in the Intergrade version, the nods to AC in the finale of the game. Also the 3 whisper bosses you fight at the end. I don't think we'll see the events of Advent Children in the final part. They'll still have a lot of material to cover from post-forgotten capital. The Northern Crater, the submarine, highwind, Wutai region (playing a bigger role in remake), Metor, Weapon etc etc...

Some events we also expect to occur in part 3 may also occur in part 2 and vice versa, as they've hinted at this.
 
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Minsc said:
Yeah, but quite a lot of people hate it. I loved it, as did most streamers I've seen run through it. The biggest ones being Nico and Max, who have huge nostalgia for the OG, both loved FF7 (Max a little less so, but still I'd say if anything he's more hype for Rebirth). While with FFXVI - most streamers love the game as well, they come down a lot harsher on the missing elements and side quests, rightly so.

Just to me - those missing elements and sidequests and main characters I all enjoyed much more in Remake than XVI. Can't even really compare all the missing RPG elements and exploration, so XVI takes a hard loss there, but the characters I found much more interesting in VII, and the sidequests due to character interaction (which is almost absent from XVI) also more interesting in VII.

Rebirth does look like Remake on crack though, it's going to be nuts.
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Statistically FFVII Remake is easily the most liked recent Final Fantasy.



A lot of the hate FF remake gets is due to the ending. If the ending was less controversial I believe it would have been even more liked.
 
Mephisto40 said:
It was what was being said when we first found out it was in development

Doing a bit of reading just now, rebirth ends at the forgotten capital, so the end of the second disc of the original game

Apologies I hadn't read much about it recently

We do have to bare in mind that the timeline and story will change a fair bit from the original game though, judging by the end of remake, which is nothing like the original game

Considering the short length of the originals 3rd disc, I think it's safe to say part 3 will also include the events and lead up of the animated film advent children as well, so in a way it will also be a sequel to the original
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Part 3 will include a muh expanded Wutai, dot expect a totally different path fos the story than the OG
 
16s biggest issue was the side quests being too mmo like, which makes sense given the team is the 14 team.

It just doesn't translate well to single player games and feels like a slog. I did all the side quests on my first run, and 0 on my final fantasy mode run for the platinum.

I much enjoyed the FF mode run and found myself paying more attention to actual story beats too.
 
Traxtech said:
16s biggest issue was the side quests being too mmo like, which makes sense given the team is the 14 team.

It just doesn't translate well to single player games and feels like a slog. I did all the side quests on my first run, and 0 on my final fantasy mode run for the platinum.

I much enjoyed the FF mode run and found myself paying more attention to actual story beats too.
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I genuinely think you can propose MMO style sidequest. YOu just have to write it good and somehow really connect it with the main story.
 
Mephisto40 said:
Doing a bit of reading just now, rebirth ends at the forgotten capital, so the end of the second disc of the original game
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Forgotten Capital is actually the end of the first disc, so Remake part III will still have a fair bit to cover- Great Glacier, Junon/Weapon showdown, Mideel, Wutai, return to Midgar, North Crater and so on.
 
No chance I'll watch it, but I'm thinking they'll have one more big trailer and gameplay overview before launch as they always do and given it's exclusive then I'm banking on a State of Play soon.

They can also announce release dates for Stellar Blade and Silent Hill 2 whilst they're at it.
 
Badlucktroll said:
They should remake FF8 in the style of FF16 and have it just be one game. I think they could pull it off.
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FF8 has my fav art direction in the series and I'd love to see it remade to 7Rs standards, but I'm not sure if they could do it in a one and done game and give it the love it deserves. There are a lot of large and beautiful towns/cities in that game which are highly detailed and a ton of world map. Maybe 2 or in the form FF9 is supposedly being remade?

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FF10 I think could be done in one game to 7Rs standards I think as it feels about the same scope as 16. Spira is mostly settlements and the lands inbetween.
 
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This time I'm waiting for the PS5 Pro and a -75% price even if not passing this fully. FF7R was a fucking slog of a game. 10 hours widened to nearly 40. God damn, never again.
 
saintjules said:
Yeah. Development was underway back in November 2019.
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Yup Rebirth began some development in 2019. Part 3 in 2022. It's the best efficiency from Square since the PS1/early PS2 era.

Putting out both XVI and Rebirth about 7 months apart is great when you consider the scope of both games.
 
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