TransTrender
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PS5 PRO, does it really matter?
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Trogdor1123
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I did want one but with the way Sony has handled plus I will probably move on to pc. I built a decent pc this Christmas so it was an easy choice.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
Wha?
Killjoy-NL
Member
Same, although I don't see a need for a Pro.
Business-wise, it doesn't make much sense either.
HighPoly
Banned
I'm afraid of they delayed games for PS6 or even for PS5 PRO...
I'd like to know what is on working...
HighPoly
Banned
Well
I don't have a PS5 now, cause I decided for Xbox Series X, but depending on what games will come next year, I'd probably buy PS5 PRO
well, do you think we'll see some new ip announcement on next state of play? I mean, not a releasing, cause Sony said only next year, but some announcement?
Feel Like I'm On 42
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We really do need it. People shouldn't have to be settling for blurry 1080p/60 in '24 if they're someone who plays on a 4k TV. Since Sony pushed so hard for people to adopt 4k last gen and because they "cheaped out" on not having a better upscaling solution this gen, it's in everyone's interest to offer an optional upgrade for those who want one.
Look at Helldivers 2 that just came out, how shitty the 60 fps modes have been for Ff16/Ff7 rebirth/Alan Wake 2, Jedi Survivor/ etc. Look at DD2 which doesn't even offer 1080p at a locked 60 fps ..then think about the games that are coming out like Gta6 and Death Stranding 2.
Look at Helldivers 2 that just came out, how shitty the 60 fps modes have been for Ff16/Ff7 rebirth/Alan Wake 2, Jedi Survivor/ etc. Look at DD2 which doesn't even offer 1080p at a locked 60 fps ..then think about the games that are coming out like Gta6 and Death Stranding 2.
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Hey Blinkin
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I've enjoyed this gen a lot and I have no anticipation for pro consoles or their eventual next gen replacements.
The Switch is definitely due for a successor, but I don't think I'm going to jump as soon as I usually do for these things.
Cyberpunkd
Member
So you want more graphics, more pixels, more effects, more budgets, more development time? Where everywhere around people are saying games cost too much and take too long to develop?
ShadyAcshuns
Member
Yeah I could see getting a Pro as a first choice since you don't already own the original system. As far as announcements I think they probably do have some new sp first party games in the works, and hopefully we'll hear about them soon enough.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
well
I only want to see more first party exclusives...
Mfer doesn't even own a PS5 yet is "concerned" about the Pro.
Cyberpunkd
Member
You won’t get it, since you are asking for an equivalent of a gaming PC for half or 1/3 the price.
VolticArchangel
Member
Especially when there's no Xbox Series XX this time around.
Rockstar won't just isolate and give Xbox a "nextgen" SKU next year for their new Xbox Next (assuming
HeisenbergFX4
is right on the money on it being next year and not 2026), and then release an equivalent or better PS6 version somewhere around 2027/2028 when the PS6 releases. They don't work that way anymore, even if you give them money now. They've grown way beyond that as an IP/studio to even think of 3P timed exclusivity.
At best they'll sign marketing exclusivity with console manufacturers now, like they did with Sony and RDR2.
HighPoly
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JESUS!Especially when there's no Xbox Series XX this time around.
Rockstar won't just isolate and give Xbox a "nextgen" SKU next year for their new Xbox Next (assuming
They don't work that way anymore, even if you give them money now. They've grown way beyond that as an IP/studio to even think of 3P timed exclusivity.
At best they'll sign marketing exclusivity with console manufacturers now, like they did with Sony and RDR2.
If PS5 PRO got 23 Teraflops as said, PS6 will make around 50 Teraflops 0_o
Do you believe it?
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Arent most PS5/Series X basically 60 fps at decent dynamic res and good visual settings?
So if PS5 Pro doubled in power to let's say 20TF, the extra 10TF wont be able to get 4k/60/high settings (not gunning for 60+ fps or ultra PC settings)?
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RickSanchez
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Ive spent a lot of money on a powerful PC. I still got a PS5 (day 1 purchase) to play PS exclusives, and mere months later Sony started putting most of their exclusives on Steam.
So no, i will probably never buy another console again, will just keep upgrading my PC. I may have to wait a few years for the latest Sony first party games, but thats fine.
So no, i will probably never buy another console again, will just keep upgrading my PC. I may have to wait a few years for the latest Sony first party games, but thats fine.
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meech
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8k tv is total nonsense. Has to be absurdly big to be worth it,to big for most flats. And there is no 8k material either( television program, movies, series)
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existensmaximum
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Since almost no games are exclusive to (and therefore heavily optimized with all resources put to that good use) the PS5 and instead multiplat then yeah, more power for brute forcing is required to make the game look decent unfortunately.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
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I'm sure it matters a lot to MS.
FoxMcChief
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If I was Sony, I’d scrap the Pro and just release the PS6 sooner. I think this will force Xbox out a lot sooner.
Redefine07
Member
We got the hardware this time , lazy devs are to blame , we don't really need PS5 PRO , and UE5 its pure garbage for this gen.
HighPoly
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Path tracing is not a problem, the problem is using Path Tracing + native 4K
But yeah, I think if SONY wants to see their games running with Path Tracing, will be necessary another powerfull console...
Well, Nvidia has Path Tracing anyway, and I don't know if AMD will make it's own..
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Zuzu
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The relevance of a PS5 Pro is person dependent. If a person wants to play most current quality modes at 60fps and they enjoy a few extra improvements in visuals (e.g. better ray-tracing) then yes it's relevant for those people. Also, if Xbox releases a new console in 2025/2026 then it keeps Sony more competitive with regards to power until they release the PS6. But honestly, many Playstation users are probably so entrenched in the ecosystem that they probably wouldn't buy the next Xbox even if there was no Pro released.
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Rambone
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Performance has just been trash on Series and PS5. I've moved back to PC so that I can get away from 30fps and don't have to deal with compromises. I'll more than likely get a PS5 Pro so that I can move my PS5 out to the living room but if I'm going to take console gaming seriously again, I'm going to need better than the 30fps bullshit we are getting now in quality modes, 60fps minimum or GTFO.
Tarnpanzer
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Image quality is way too soft in 60fps-modes in recent releases. 1080p like in Helldivers 2 is way to blurry on a 4K-display.
I switched to a PC last year, but would definitely buy a PS5 Pro for the exclusive titles.
I switched to a PC last year, but would definitely buy a PS5 Pro for the exclusive titles.
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Mr Reasonable
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The most interesting thing about the PS5 PRO is what the price will be, imo.
Sony have already said reducing the PS5 price will be difficult, so the pro price will have to go up. It'll be interesting to see how high they'll go with it and how it sells. I don't think there's the appetite for Sony to heavily subsidise the price amid all this margin talk, but if they don't push the spec enough then people will struggle to see the benefit.
It could be a testing ground for next Gen in that sense - how much will console players pay?
Sony have already said reducing the PS5 price will be difficult, so the pro price will have to go up. It'll be interesting to see how high they'll go with it and how it sells. I don't think there's the appetite for Sony to heavily subsidise the price amid all this margin talk, but if they don't push the spec enough then people will struggle to see the benefit.
It could be a testing ground for next Gen in that sense - how much will console players pay?
Leonidas
AMD's Dogma: ARyzen (No Intel inside)
As a PC player, it doesn't matter. My PC is already more powerful.
I only use my PS5 for PS4 games so I don't think I'd see any improvement.
I will continue waiting 1-year or whatever for the games to show up on PC, I'd hate to buy a game on console then be stuck playing them on those weak Zen2 cores when a PC version with 120+ FPS is possible a year later.
I only use my PS5 for PS4 games so I don't think I'd see any improvement.
I will continue waiting 1-year or whatever for the games to show up on PC, I'd hate to buy a game on console then be stuck playing them on those weak Zen2 cores when a PC version with 120+ FPS is possible a year later.
balls of snow
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Day 1. Best place to play gta 6 on launch baby.
EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
Yea, I wasn't going to say day 1 as I can wait....then I remembered GTA 6 lol
Day 1 as well.
TastyPastry
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i don't know, if it really plays GTA VI at 60fps and improves a lot of PSVR2 games i might get it but chances are high that i will regret it if PS6 comes out only 3 years later. might be smarter to just get a switch 2 instead.
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Mr Reasonable
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I wonder if GTA will support PS5 pro immediately (either at game launch if the console comes out first, or vice versa).
This seems to be a big part of the appeal.
This seems to be a big part of the appeal.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I don’t like it but I will get it.
Imo devs are using ps5 as low end pc which is lazy on their part. They are not using the hardware beyond its face value as budget pc.
Like remedy who just slapped low on pc version of aw2 and released it on ps5 with low res, bad performance, no substitute for lack of rt and just terrible image quality.
The. You have devs that do care like ff16. You got stable 30fps which for one is not heavily delayed and looks fantastic. Or demons souls or forbidden west or other games that show what happens when you use ps5.
I dont care 30 or 60. I am against forcing modes. Devs should make best game they can.
And if there can be tlou part1 or 2 running at 4k 40+ fps, the. There is no place for lazy ports like aw2.
In short - hardware is barely utilized.
Imo devs are using ps5 as low end pc which is lazy on their part. They are not using the hardware beyond its face value as budget pc.
Like remedy who just slapped low on pc version of aw2 and released it on ps5 with low res, bad performance, no substitute for lack of rt and just terrible image quality.
The. You have devs that do care like ff16. You got stable 30fps which for one is not heavily delayed and looks fantastic. Or demons souls or forbidden west or other games that show what happens when you use ps5.
I dont care 30 or 60. I am against forcing modes. Devs should make best game they can.
And if there can be tlou part1 or 2 running at 4k 40+ fps, the. There is no place for lazy ports like aw2.
In short - hardware is barely utilized.
Lord Malachite
Member
I'll be trading in my launch PS5 for a PS5 Pro as soon as possible. I was very happy with the performance of my games on the PS4 Pro and felt that many titles in the second half of the PS4's primary life cycle was much better. I would have hate to be locked to the vanilla PS4's specs and having little in the way of options. Titles like God Of War (2018) and Days Gone would have been completely painful on the vanilla PS4 for me. So I'll be upgrading without question.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Ff16 is the best playing and one of best looking 30fps modes this gen. You shoot yourself in the foot focusing on worse performance mode. Get over initial hump, play for 16 minutes and you will get used to it.
Either deal with it or get a pc.
I know what mode I will play ff7 at and it ain’t 60fps.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
That’s remedys fault. They just slapped low on pc version with no substitute for pt and went their way on ps5.
Lazy devs, bad devs and shit port.
Inexcusable when we have tlou part1 at 4k with pristine image quality, looking like a post card and at over 40fps.
Fuck remedy and fuck rt.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
That’s ok but I think you are loosing a sight of why we play video games.
You don’t play a game because it’s 120fps. You play a game because it’s a good game
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