Metroid Prime 4: Beyond | Nintendo Direct
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Prime 3 was compromised for the sake of garbage controls. There's a good game there somewhere and I don't really fault Retro for it.
Zannegan
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Loved the controls, the aiming at least. The gimmicky door unlocky stuff was cool exactly once.
Pejo
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I'll be honest, the Prime games never vibed with me, I vastly prefer 2D Metroid, but I'll give it a try again since Metroid games only come around so often. The trailer showed literally all of the things you'd expect from a Prime game, shooting, ball morphing, scanning shit (the worst part IMO). None of it looked innovative or all that exciting, but I am happy that people that enjoy the Prime series are getting something. Probably similar to how they felt when we got Dread a few years ago and I was basically bouncing off of the walls with excitement.
DKPOWPOW
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If it reminds you of that, well I don't know what to say.
To me it seems like Corruption. Similar ship design, a battlefield you're walking into, pirates busting into GF zones. It's very reminiscent of that.
But then the 2025 logo with Beyond subtitle hits and the snippet after of the new world Samus is in where she seemed she just came thru a portal similar to the ones you walked thru during Echoes.
Has me wondering how she gets there, and the heavenly vibe of the place. Who knows? Maybe Samus dies? Corruption was very heavy into the idea of Samus possibly not making it.
The whole time, every boss battle, everything left her closer and closer to perishing.
The Beyond part really has me wondering, the subtitles of each successive Prime game are usually heavily tied to how the entire game is designed.
Echoes with it's relation to the different worlds echoing thru each other, and Samus phasing between them. Yes the visor too, but the whole game, even from the outside. 2 was an echo of Prime 1.
Beyond is not a subtitle I would have ever guessed for 4. It makes sense though, after all this time.
Muffdraul
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I liked MP3 a lot, but I'd say it was the weakest of the trilogy. It was linear like Fusion, with an A.I. character telling where to go to progress.
Aldric
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It's still a good game but it suffers from the Wii era trend of shoehorning motion controls even when they don't bring anything to the gameplay. The structure was also a bit disappointing with distinct planets instead of a coherent interconnected map and the overall tone was kind of a mess with too many NPCs, restrictive objectives and a sort of attempt at being a second rate Halo with more "epic" setpieces and cutscenes.
On a positive note it had some of the best environments in the series (Skytown, Valhalla ship, Phaaze), the energy cells quest was much better executed than its equivalents in the previous games and it had some neat new abilities like the way it used the grappling beam in combat. A solid 7/10.
Ian Henry
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OMG It's real
rodrigolfp
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They bring immersion vs dragging crosshairs with a stick.
Aldric
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I'm talking about stuff like activating levers or entering a code with motion. These things are pointless in a Metroid game.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
They bring immersion vs just pressing a button.
Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
You can tell the poster is shitty when the people who played Prime think the poster is shitty.
All i read are a bunch of crylords who thought the trailer wasn't that impactful, that it looks similar to Prime Remastered, and that its just Prime.
Fact is, just Prime is still the kind of game that very few other games have tried to replicate. Morphite comes to mind, but that's about it.
Name them. You gotta remember you sound pretty silly by being contrarian.
The same studio delivered Prime Remastered and has been behind every other Prime game. So what, behind silly millennial angst is the real reason you are so disappointed? There is little to be considering its past.
Except, except... oh wait they aren't exactly comparable. Your only parameter of validity here is dev time length.
Didn't hear you complain when Prime 3: Corruption released in 2007 on the Wii.
You know, when Crysis also hit the streets.
Also PS3 level graphics. Far as i know, The Prime series was renowned for its gameplay... heck, even the first one remastered got passing colours.
But i guess its never enough.
Indeed. I wish GAF atleast wised up as the years go by, but alas, we still have the same dumbass members making the same dumbass takes. Its boring.
Ironman_Bad
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Ehh really wish Nintendo had better hardware to work with
Robb
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Well they've promised it for Switch two times in a row already with the initial announcement and then the reboot announcement.
In addition to that Metroid doesn't sell well, so why release it exclusively on a new platform with a low install base when you'll have 154M customers on the other one.
And either way it's been in development for Switch for the past 5 years. Even if they had announced this as "Switch 2 only" it'd be held back by Switch at this point.
I'm glad you like the title. And it makes you wonder.
I noticed you didn't point out anything cool about the trailer either.
Wishful thinking. Classic bait.
I tried to play it. I had fun for a bit with the Wii controls. Ultimately the cutscene stuff grated. I don't like that stuff. And then ...it was been there, done that.
Robb
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That's a good thing though, right?
I don't think anyone want another "Federation Force" fiasco where they move too far away from the original trilogy in terms of artstyle. Wouldn't surprise me if that's one of the reasons they scrapped their first effort and handed it back to Retro.
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Redneckerz
Those long posts don't cover that red neck boy
Correct. I was somewhere else when it hit so i made a quick comment before going to dinner.
Iced Arcade
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100% getting on the switch 2.
Dacvak
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Donkusei
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I love everything we saw about the game. Basically they just wanted to show that it will be exactly what the fans love: scan, good music, stunning graphics (for the system obvisouly), the core gameplay is still the same...
But well, they didn't really show the game. We don't know the new world, the new abilities for Samus, or even the new ideas (because of course, there will be new ideas). I guess they just wanted to show us the game and say "don't worry, it will be good". We'll see more later with proper trailers.
And of course it will be cross-gen 4K on Switch 2.
But well, they didn't really show the game. We don't know the new world, the new abilities for Samus, or even the new ideas (because of course, there will be new ideas). I guess they just wanted to show us the game and say "don't worry, it will be good". We'll see more later with proper trailers.
And of course it will be cross-gen 4K on Switch 2.
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Neff
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MagiusNecros
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Liked it. Was too short and too easy though. Metroid Prime 2 IMO is the best Prime game.
Donkusei
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Remastered is pretty much the most beautiful game on Switch. So... is that a problem? I mean, we knew that it wouldn't look a lot different. You can't really expect more. And tbh, we don't really need more. It looks great, it's stable 60 fps. Retro Studios cooked.
And again: we didn't see anything, we don't know how big or beautiful is the world. MPR looks beautiful, it's a full remake, but the rooms are small so it was easier overall to make I think.
Anyway, I think that Nintendo knows that Metroid games are for core gamers, and they want to have games for everyone. So they also need games like this. It's also basically why they fund Bayonetta games.
I love the entire trilogy. Prime 3 is great. A little bit too linear sometimes, but still.
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Astral Dog
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the reactions to this trailer have been very interesting, mixed
However as longtime fan of the series its not shocking its always been like this with Metroid, for a fan you already know what to expect on the surface with Metroid Prime 4, the puzzles, level design,music,lore,boss fights ,etc.thats why we are hyped anyways.
For players who play FPS, they see this short trailer and probably think it looks like another generic shooter and with trashy Switch graphics as well ,that audience doesn't buy Nintendo consoles to play FPS games
the Metroid series never got big on Nintendo outside its devoted fanbase,i think the cause is the artsyle and presentation was outside Nintendo norm at the time, but when Metroid Prime came out, the realistic graphics were praised by critics that it became a big hit for the GameCube, sold almost 3M copies
Yet when that audience played Metroid Prime, they figured out its not like any other FPS games, but Metroid design in first person instead, and what happened next is rare, Retro Studios released Metroid Prime 2 on the same console, to critical acclaim, darker art direction,higher difficulty And it sold like absolute shit, less than 1M copies
Then Retro actually simplified the level design in Corruption in order to attract new players, put more focus on the action and storyline, it fared a little better with 1.3M sold , but still pitiful compared to any other game in its genre or the original Metroid Prime
the Metroid Prime series is very niche,more than most people realize because Nintendo pushes it, its gonna attract an specific audience but its not a big commercial title like Legend of Zelda or Mario.
the last game was released in 2007 most people commenting on Prime 4 today have not even played these games.
i believe its gonna do fine because its on the Switch and it has a much broader audience, but Nintendo will need to explain to potential buyers what makes Metroid stand out from other games
However as longtime fan of the series its not shocking its always been like this with Metroid, for a fan you already know what to expect on the surface with Metroid Prime 4, the puzzles, level design,music,lore,boss fights ,etc.thats why we are hyped anyways.
For players who play FPS, they see this short trailer and probably think it looks like another generic shooter and with trashy Switch graphics as well ,that audience doesn't buy Nintendo consoles to play FPS games
the Metroid series never got big on Nintendo outside its devoted fanbase,i think the cause is the artsyle and presentation was outside Nintendo norm at the time, but when Metroid Prime came out, the realistic graphics were praised by critics that it became a big hit for the GameCube, sold almost 3M copies
Yet when that audience played Metroid Prime, they figured out its not like any other FPS games, but Metroid design in first person instead, and what happened next is rare, Retro Studios released Metroid Prime 2 on the same console, to critical acclaim, darker art direction,higher difficulty And it sold like absolute shit, less than 1M copies
Then Retro actually simplified the level design in Corruption in order to attract new players, put more focus on the action and storyline, it fared a little better with 1.3M sold , but still pitiful compared to any other game in its genre or the original Metroid Prime
the Metroid Prime series is very niche,more than most people realize because Nintendo pushes it, its gonna attract an specific audience but its not a big commercial title like Legend of Zelda or Mario.
the last game was released in 2007 most people commenting on Prime 4 today have not even played these games.
i believe its gonna do fine because its on the Switch and it has a much broader audience, but Nintendo will need to explain to potential buyers what makes Metroid stand out from other games
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Mozza
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Not so convinced of it's sales potential, sure this has the potential to sell the best out of the entire franchise, but lets be honest here, those sales were hardly stellar in the first place, the pretty lukewarm reception saleswise, for the Metroid Prime remaster is a pretty good indication of this.
Donkusei
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Absolutely, as I said in a previous post, I think that this first "teaser / trailer" was for the fans.
THEN later, they will of course make trailers and a big marketing push for new players. I guess that the game has some features that we don't expect to achieve this goal (maybe some big areas, almost open-world?). I don't think that open-world would be great for Metroid, but I guess you can do it with also smaller areas like the first trilogy.
Haint
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Over 20 years on with over a decade of prototyping, I at the very least expected a GoW 2018 style reboot of the franchise, not an HD remaster rehash.
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Buggy Loop
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Robb
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I mean, that's on you I think. Why would you even think that when it's labeled as a direct sequel?
Donkusei
Member
It's not a reboot. And MPR is not a remaster but a full remake (they called it "remaster" because they didn't change anything about the content and gameplay).
Also, I don't think that the last GoW games look that great, I guess the art direction is not for me.
TerribleAtThisGame
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Prime 1 is one of my favorite games of all time but this felt really underwhelming. It's not the graphics but the art direction that felt ehhh to me.
I mean it's not like I'm not buying this shit Day 1 but I hit play with a hype boner and didn't even finish the trailer.
I mean it's not like I'm not buying this shit Day 1 but I hit play with a hype boner and didn't even finish the trailer.
Aldric
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Sorry but Nintendo already tried to turn Metroid into a Sony moviegame, it was called Other M and it was shit.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
It's called Metroid Prime "4", not Metroid Prime (2025).
Dr. Wilkinson
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It doesn't matter. Before BotW, Zelda was capped at like 13 mil. And that wasn't the norm. Now it's like what, 35 mil? I mean it's just ridiculous. And it's never been bundled. So past series sales really don't matter a whole lot.
I would say if Metroid Prime 4 is set up as the big flagship single-player launch game for Switch 2, past Metroid sales will be no indication at all of what the game could eventually sell.
And didn't Remaster sell over a million in 3 weeks? And it was a remaster. Who considers that lukewarm?
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Dr. Wilkinson
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Good grief, dude. It's a Metroid Prime game. It's gotta be that first and foremost. And maybe see how it turns out once you've seen more than 90 seconds?
FeastYoEyes
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After over a decade since 3, this should look better than this. Or is that my imagination?