Dragon Age: The Veilguard lets you choose top surgery scars in character creator

I have a zipper from my sternum to my pubic area after my colon was removed & a long ass scar on my right side when a metastasis was removed from my liver.

Do I want this on my character?
No because it's goddamn ugly.

But I heard it adds character 😁
 
Danjin44 said:
I mean lot of games lets put scars in your characters? How is this one is special?
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Agree with this. People digging for things on this one. Scars have been in character creation for a long ass time. To nitpick this type just because they think it has to do with sex changes, is cringey as hell. And that coming from someone who completely disagrees with forced inclusions and DEI hiring. Y'all need to chill with this, it's a bad look. Reaching is one thing, but Stretch Armstrong reaching is something else 🤦‍♂️

You do realize these scars can exist for people because of cancer, getting injured, shot, stabbed, etc.?

Edit - the last sentence is not a question to you Danjin, it's the people acting like this is the apocalypse.
 
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ah yes... the High Fantasy staple of not being able to use magic to change form...

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In METAL GEAR SOLID Δ: SNAKE EATER, injuries you get during the game will leave visible marks and scars, even if they heal naturally or are treated.

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cash_longfellow said:
Agree with this. People digging for things on this one. Scars have been in character creation for a long ass time. To nitpick this type just because they think it has to do with sex changes, is cringey as hell. And that coming from someone who completely disagrees with forced inclusions and DEI hiring. Y'all need to chill with this, it's a bad look. Reaching is one thing, but Stretch Armstrong reaching is something else 🤦‍♂️

You do realize these scars can exist for people because of cancer, getting injured, shot, stabbed, etc.?

Edit - the last sentence is not a question to you Danjin, it's the people acting like this is the apocalypse.
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I know some people might disagree with me but I think people really should stop overreacting over every little thing.

I also see people overreacting over MH Wilds about the fact you can wear both female and male armor sets, screaming about its now "woke" or "DEI" or whatever the new words is.
 
Gamer_By_Proxy said:
Tbf, I don't think any of them call it "top surgery scars". This is trans normalization language.
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Who gives a fuck what people call it…it is what it is. Normalizing trans garbage, or cancer scars, get off your bullshit high horse. The shit is tired at this point. There's literally an on/off slider. I'm not going to get deep into it, but I am 100% against forced inclusion and you can browse my post history if that is what you want, I absolutely hate it…But this is bullshit, false info. You know who else calls it "top surgery scars", people who have been through cancer surgery you dumb dumb. This shit hits close to home because I have had multiple family members with "top scars" due to cancer and have passed away. So with the possibility of getting a warning and/or ban because of your bullshit association. Fuck your assumption post and open your damn mind. Jesus Christ 🤦‍♂️
 
cash_longfellow said:
Who gives a fuck what people call it…it is what it is. Normalizing trans garbage, or cancer scars, get off your bullshit high horse. The shit is tired at this point. There's literally an on/off slider. I'm not going to get deep into it, but I am 100% against forced inclusion and you can browse my post history if that is what you want, I absolutely hate it…But this is bullshit, false info. You know who else calls it "top surgery scars", people who have been through cancer surgery you dumb dumb. This shit hits close to home because I have had multiple family members with "top scars" due to cancer and have passed away. So with the possibility of getting a warning and/or ban because of your bullshit association. Fuck your assumption post and open your damn mind. Jesus Christ 🤦‍♂️
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I've only heard trans people call it that. Cancer survivors typically call it mastectomy scars.
 
cash_longfellow said:
Agree with this. People digging for things on this one. Scars have been in character creation for a long ass time. To nitpick this type just because they think it has to do with sex changes, is cringey as hell. And that coming from someone who completely disagrees with forced inclusions and DEI hiring. Y'all need to chill with this, it's a bad look. Reaching is one thing, but Stretch Armstrong reaching is something else 🤦‍♂️

You do realize these scars can exist for people because of cancer, getting injured, shot, stabbed, etc.?

Edit - the last sentence is not a question to you Danjin, it's the people acting like this is the apocalypse.
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Surgical scars for a trans surgery or mastectomy in a medieval game? It's dumb, doesn't belong and blatant pandering. That's why people don't like it and won't support it. I used to think like you that it's not a big deal then media got absurdly inclusive to the point of prioritizing it over the idea of making a game that fits in itself or other media.

I won't support this. It will be the first dragon age game I don't buy. It's the principle. And yeah it's clearly not being anti gay because DA has always had gay options in it. It's prioritizing this junk over the actual game that's a bridge too far for me. Also you need to calm down and think a little bit here.
 
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Danjin44 said:
I know some people might disagree with me but I think people really should stop overreacting over every little thing.

I also see people overreacting over MH Wilds about the fact you can wear both female and male armor sets, screaming about its now "woke" or "DEI" or whatever the new words is.
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Indeed, 100%. A debate about games is fantastic, like we did with the Pokémon and Palworld thing…but at this point, the overreacting to scars, or interchangeable armor, is just insane at this point.
 
finalflame said:
How about you provide evidence that it does? You're making the claim, not me. What leads you to believe mass, repeated, graphic slaughtering in video game has no effect on people's psyche, but putting a little chest scar on your cartoon character somehow makes you chop your fucking tits off?

Believe it it or not, people are happy with their bodies and to celebrate their imperfections. And you're right, let's not pretend this discussion is about anything other than retarded culture war bullshit. If this genuinely upsets you, you can stop pretending it's because you care about women. You and I both know it's a whole different thing entirely.
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No. It really isn't. Pretty sad you automatically default to some preconceived notion of anyone who pushes back against gender and trans ideologies. Not everyone exists in some sort of left wing/ring wing political warfare. Most of us are in the sensible centre and can see problems on both sides.

And as stated, a great deal of evidence exists that tells us violence in media does not contribute to violence in real life. The trans debate does not have a similar amount of study, due to how short a time it's been a thing. You are defaulting to a position of 'it's fine' when you have no evidence that it is.
 
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cash_longfellow said:
Broooo…I swear to fucking God, I have family members that have said the exact term to me while dealing with cancer surgery. You are a fucking douche bro, and I hope you go tf away. Dirt bag.
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gatti-man said:
Surgical scars for a trans surgery or mastectomy in a medieval game? It's dumb, doesn't belong and blatant pandering. That's why people don't like it and won't support it. I used to think like you that it's not a big deal then media got absurdly inclusive to the point of prioritizing it over the idea of making a game that fits in itself or other media.

I won't support this. It will be the first dragon age game I don't buy. It's the principle. And yeah it's clearly not being anti gay because DA has always had gay options in it. It's prioritizing this junk over the actual game that's a bridge too far for me. Also you need to calm down and think a little bit here.
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You don't have to support that shit at all, don't buy the game. Also, I who said anything about being "anti-gay"?

It's like y'all clowns make some dumb comments and then try to bait others by comments like that.

No one cares if you like gay people or not.

Calm down about what, ? you being a biggot and trying to justify it. I normally stay in the background on these threads, but this here has really brought you guys' true colors out..wow.
 
EviLore said:
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A new video refers to the dragon slayer Taash, who is voiced by a nonbinary actor, using they/them pronouns.
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^ Apparently one of the main playable companions is a non-binary person who grapples with they/their identity, too.

They've thrown out the dark fantasy setting completely and replaced it with modern day college campus sensibilities under a generic F2P mobile fantasy veneer. That's the real problem here.
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I hope you can kill your companions like in Dragon Age: Origins.
 
zokie said:



In METAL GEAR SOLID Δ: SNAKE EATER, injuries you get during the game will leave visible marks and scars, even if they heal naturally or are treated.

well ... just my honest opinion
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Where's the opinion?

I mean, you pointed out a fact from another game that has no connection to this one.


Danjin44 said:
I know some people might disagree with me but I think people really should stop overreacting over every little thing.

I also see people overreacting over MH Wilds about the fact you can wear both female and male armor sets, screaming about its now "woke" or "DEI" or whatever the new words is.
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Inserting real-life "problems" into a fantasy world is fucking bullshit. It's worse than the ideological reasons behind it.

Ignore the "cultural wars" thing if you like, but anyone who cares a bit about lore or stories in a videogame can't be ok with this lack of professionalism.
 
Outlier said:
GOOD.
I'm glad people have choices in how they can design their CUSTOM characters.

Very interesting seeing people complain about CHOICES in a game about CHOICES. :messenger_confused:

Previewers are saying the game is lookin quite good, so I'm excited
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Totally. Except for the fact that the character creator doesn't let you choose any female breast or butt sizes larger than extra small? How is that inclusive or offering choice?
 
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cash_longfellow said:
You don't have to support that shit at all, don't buy the game. Also, I who said anything about being "anti-gay"?

It's like y'all clowns make some dumb comments and then try to bait others by comments like that.

No one cares if you like gay people or not.

Calm down about what, ? you being a biggot and trying to justify it. I normally stay in the background on these threads, but this here has really brought you guys' true colors out..wow.
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No I meant I Am not anti gay. Like this isn't about it being gay trans whatever it's about pandering and forced inclusion. It's stupid and hurts any game/media it's in. Another great example of forced pandering is in the final shape destiny expansion. It's got me rolling my eyes out of my head.

You're clearly so emotional you aren't reading before replying so this will be my last post to you. And LOL at true colors. Take a long look in the mirror guy.
 
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Guys they told us 2 weeks ago that each one of the pansexual companions has their own backstory-themed sex lair that you can get your cheeks split in. This news doesn't surprise me at all.
 
cash_longfellow said:
Broooo…I swear to fucking God, I have family members that have said the exact term to me while dealing with cancer surgery. You are a fucking douche bro, and I hope you go tf away. Dirt bag.
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cash_longfellow said:
You don't have to support that shit at all, don't buy the game. Also, I who said anything about being "anti-gay"?

It's like y'all clowns make some dumb comments and then try to bait others by comments like that.

No one cares if you like gay people or not.

Calm down about what, ? you being a biggot and trying to justify it. I normally stay in the background on these threads, but this here has really brought you guys' true colors out..wow.
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cash_longfellow said:
Fuck you bitch…trying to minimize my particular situation. You are a fucking asshole. Blocked and reported as a trash ass piece of human.
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cash_longfellow said:
Cool story, good luck supporting your Nazi agenda 🤡. Ignored along with the thread. Hope the mods ban your bitch ass ✌
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gatti-man said:
No I meant I Am not anti gay. Like this isn't about it being gay trans whatever it's about pandering and forced inclusion. It's stupid and hurts any game/media it's in. Another great example of forced pandering is in the final shape destiny expansion. It's got me rolling my eyes out of my head.

You're clearly so emotional you aren't reading before replying so this will be my last post to you. And LOL at true colors. Take a long look in the mirror guy.
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I understand. That's my point too. I'm against forced inclusion. This isn't it. Forced inclusion would be not having an option to turn this off. There literally a slider in game, people are trippin' about it because they are looking for something to flash bigotry about. It's as simple as that.
 
Danjin44 said:
I know some people might disagree with me but I think people really should stop overreacting over every little thing.

I also see people overreacting over MH Wilds about the fact you can wear both female and male armor sets, screaming about its now "woke" or "DEI" or whatever the new words is.
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You're absolutely right that people over-react to every little thing these days, when it comes to inclusivity.

However, I do feel in this specific case that push back is warranted. This is a video game encouraging mastectomies in healthy young girls. The top surgery scars are not included so that cancer survivors can feel good about themselves, and anyone who suggests this is being deeply disingenuous.

This is at a time when the debate around trans surgery is far from clear, and end outcomes are far from known - positive or negative. It's just not being responsible to your audience in the slightest to include this in the game.
 
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You guys are obsessed with this stuff. In the end, who cares. I will never understand why people, particularly politicians are obsessed with people who identify as trans. Leave these people the fuck alone, they aren't bothering anyone and are a tiny fraction of the general population.

I am sure this isn't as big of a deal as some are making it out to be.
 
strike670 said:
You guys are obsessed with this stuff. In the end, who cares. I will never understand why people, particularly politicians are obsessed with people who identify as trans. Leave these people the fuck alone, they aren't bothering anyone and are a tiny fraction of the general population.

I am sure this isn't as big of a deal as some are making it out to be.
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They make it a big deal by putting porn in elementary school libraries and have sexual predators expose their balls to 4 year olds at story hour.

They take things too far and fuck with the kids. It's not a live and let live situation.
 
Gamer_By_Proxy said:
They make it a big deal by putting porn in elementary school libraries and have sexual predators expose their balls to 4 year olds at story hour.

They take things too far and fuck with the kids. It's not a live and let live situation.
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You live in a fantasy world that doesn't exist. Stop listening to right-wing grifters on YouTube dude.
 
Y'all making a lot of noise for some toggle you aint even going to use?
Judging by the circlejerk of hate on this game, which you've repeatedly said you aint even gonna play, so again, how does this affect anyone except the people who play this game?
 
Gamer_By_Proxy said:
They make it a big deal by putting porn in elementary school libraries and have sexual predators expose their balls to 4 year olds at story hour.

They take things too far and fuck with the kids. It's not a live and let live situation.
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"trans people put porn in elementary school libraries" -Jesus dude
Gamer_By_Proxy said:
How much evidence do you need? There's plenty of videos online of them sexualizing kids.
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You can find evidence of people, from every persuasion, sexualizing kids. That's not good reason to make the leap that everyone, in said group, is doing the same. It's a fallacy to do do.
 
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Don’t bring social media culture wars to GAF.
Let me know when they do their porn books, parades, and story hours towards senior citizens in assisted living.
 
Gaiff said:
Bro has a full-on meltdown, repeatedly calls the other poster a bitch and a nazi and hope they will get banned.

Family Feud Lol GIF by Steve Harvey
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Just in case they do review all this shit. I'm not asking him to be banned. I don't want him banned. Obviously this is personal to him and I'm not minimizing that. I just think he's the exception and not the rule. It happens. People experience different shit. And I don't care about the name calling. I'm a big boy and all about free speech.
 
cash_longfellow said:
You know who else calls it "top surgery scars", people who have been through cancer surgery you dumb dumb.
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I haven't heard of people who underwent cancer surgery that called for more inclusion in video games by adding a toggle for scars after a breast amputation.
strike670 said:
You guys are obsessed with this stuff. In the end, who cares.
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Someone does because otherwise, that toggle wouldn't exist in the first place.

I'm torn on this topic, to be honest. I understand that some transpeople might want to be better represented in the media. But most of the time, the implementation feels just shoehorned in the worst possible way. Another issue I have with this is that the term trans is being normalized and watered down. Not identifying with your sex to the degree you want to change your body surgically isn't normal. Crossdressing and wanting to wear a skirt or pants sometimes doesn't make you a trans person, either.

Getting back to Veilguard: the implementation of the toggle is plain dumb. It adds nothing of value to the game. Chances are you won't see the scars most of the time anyway. Waste of development resources. Should've increased the boob and ass slider instead. I find it borderline misogynist that they are limiting it to this degree from what I've seen. There are women out there who can clap with their chests and cheeks by wiggling them. Where is the toggle for that? Why are women with big busts and butts excluded from the character creator in this fashion? Disgusting.
 
John Marston said:
I have a zipper from my sternum to my pubic area after my colon was removed & a long ass scar on my right side when a metastasis was removed from my liver.
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Oh really? I had my tonsils taken out when I was 6. Then when I was 9 I had mole removed. At age 24 I had two wisdom teeth pulled. Then a few years ago I had this weird thing behind my bottom lip, I didn't know what the fuck it was but it didn't go away after a few weeks it appeared, so some doctor removed it.

Anyway beat that cocksucka.
 
Isn't the whole point to be a fantasy game and pretend to play something you're not?
Why do they need to bring real world shit in to it. You want to play a dude? Play a dude.

Also this explains a lot.
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